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The ideal woman?

Ingrid Ingersoll
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08-16-2005 11:48
I've noticed many female human avatars are quite homogenous looking. Mine included to some extent except for 2 glaring ommisions. ;) I would think it's only human nature to make an avatar with some appeal but I'm wondering if this is what others really want to see? I find myself drawn to avatars who look different.

We could presume based on the choices we make when we make our avatars that the fantasy land female with the massive chest, tiny waist and rail thin legs is more appealing than an avatar who looks more realistic, or completely out there. But is actually the case? Are we wrong? (loaded question, I know, but I'm still hoping some will reply)

Disclaimer: I'm not objecting to anyone's avatar. Just genuinely curious.
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08-16-2005 11:52
I'd like to say I look pretty real, except for being really tall. I"m kinda tall IRL, but it looks funny when I try to scale myself down.
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08-16-2005 12:03
my avatar is different, she is plump. there are very few full bodied avatars out there, well, except the full breasts, that seems to be pretty popular. i made her with large thighs, and a rounded tummy, and i think she is beautiful!

her facial features are different i think also. she has large lips and a round face, with a puggish nose. when i look at her, she makes me think of my mom when she was alive. maybe subconciously that was what i was aiming for when i made my avatar. who knows, either way, she is a big beautiful woman....umm i mean avatar.
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08-16-2005 12:05
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
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From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I've noticed many female human avatars are quite homogenous looking. Mine included to some extent except for 2 glaring ommisions. ;) I would think it's only human nature to make an avatar with some appeal but I'm wondering if this is what others really want to see? I find myself drawn to avatars who look different.

We could presume based on the choices we make when we make our avatars that the fantasy land female with the massive chest, tiny waist and rail thin legs is more appealing than an avatar who looks more realistic, or completely out there. But is actually the case? Are we wrong? (loaded question, I know, but I'm still hoping some will reply)

Disclaimer: I'm not objecting to anyone's avatar. Just genuinely curious.
Just my opine: My absolute favorite human avatar is Trep Cosmo's. I find her av to be wonderfully real, and therefore quite attractive. All the pushpin shaped avs out there are fine, but after a childhood filled with Barbie, I'm a bit ready for something more interesting.
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08-16-2005 12:10
I personally don't think avatars with exaggerated proportions as you described are very appealing. They look like aliens. There's a fine line between sublimely sexy (Angelina Jolie) and just absurd (Anna Nicole Smith). I am, of course, speaking purely on a physical level.

I'm a big fan of comic books and the female body, and since comic books are big fans of the female body too, we just gel like jello in a pan. Er, what I'm saying is, comic book female proportions are always exaggerated, but not too exaggerated. There's a happy medium. A few more clicks on the slider can mean the difference between Anne Nicole Smith and Angelina Jolie. I think most people just don't know when to stop.
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08-16-2005 12:13
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Schwanson Schlegel
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08-16-2005 12:14
I like boobs.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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08-16-2005 12:17
okay! One vote for boobs from Schwanson! :p

There must be other males reading... come on... post!
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08-16-2005 12:18
I don't care if an av is skinny, chunky, or somewhere in the middle.. the thing I appreciate is being well proportioned. I hate seeing skinny avs with gigantor breasts and big asses, or fat avs with no asses at all. I made my av pretty average, with more muscle than usual and some curve. It works for me, though it may not be what Pamela Anderson fans find appealing. Those aren't the people I would be worried about their opinions anyway.
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08-16-2005 12:18
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Dianne Mechanique
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08-16-2005 12:23
From: Jillian Callahan
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Just my opine: My absolute favorite human avatar is Trep Cosmo's. I find her av to be wonderfully real, and therefore quite attractive. All the pushpin shaped avs out there are fine, but after a childhood filled with Barbie, I'm a bit ready for something more interesting.
I havent seen Trep Cosmo's but I completely agree.

"Real" or even just different looking, is far more interesting than "perfect."
All of my friends almost without exception avoid the Barbie/Hootchie look like the plague that it is.

I tend to think it has to do with women wanting to look like a real woman as opposed to men wanting to look like a fantasy of a woman, but that is over-generalising perhaps.

I mean I cannot personally see why any woman would want to look like Anna Nicole Smith, but then... Anna Nicole Smith does I guess.

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Sylfie Minogue
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08-16-2005 12:28
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I've noticed many female human avatars are quite homogenous looking. Mine included to some extent except for 2 glaring ommisions. ;) I would think it's only human nature to make an avatar with some appeal but I'm wondering if this is what others really want to see? I find myself drawn to avatars who look different.

We could presume based on the choices we make when we make our avatars that the fantasy land female with the massive chest, tiny waist and rail thin legs is more appealing than an avatar who looks more realistic, or completely out there. But is actually the case? Are we wrong? (loaded question, I know, but I'm still hoping some will reply)

Disclaimer: I'm not objecting to anyone's avatar. Just genuinely curious.


Funny how you should mention that, I was feeling kind of inadequate about myself last nite after seeing others with a more enhanced torso, but i try to think logically that having too big of a torso will lead to a real bad back problem given that alot of us wear heels in the game as well.

Like you said, it's only human nature to make ourselves more appealing. It's like IRL, the appeal is more of our own design/vanity than others, such as staying fit, keeping healthy, eating right, etc; so one day you can be proud to show off your body to others, it's kind of evident of that during the summer especially at the beach. Fitter bodies also shows more atitude towards life, it's a lifestyle trend carried over from real life to SL life in my opinion and i dont think i should be ashamed or question myself regarding what i like as long as it's within physical reasoning.

It's also within reason that IRL, that alot of females growing up in today's society is developing faster as well, i think this is due to the hormone treatment in the foods we eat, especially at fast foods places where it's processed meats. Again, it's the lifestyle and the environment we live in have the biggest impact on our lives, we just carry it into the game which we regard is the norm.

*looks down at her chest and sighs*

I think i need a tape measure to check myself against others. Good thing is that the game doesn't really need plastic surgery, i can say i'm 100% natural! ;)
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08-16-2005 12:29
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I havent seen Trep Cosmo's but I completely agree.

"Real" or even just different looking, is far more interesting than "perfect."
All of my friends almost without exception avoid the Barbie/Hootchie look like the plague that it is.

I tend to think it has to do with women wanting to look like a real woman as opposed to men wanting to look like a fantasy of a woman, but that is over-generalising perhaps.

I mean I cannot personally see why any woman would want to look like Anna Nicole Smith, but then... Anna Nicole Smith does I guess.

:)


and her new 76 year old Boyfriend I guess doesnt mind how she looks :rolleyes:

As much as beauty being in the eye of the beholder, theres also a tendacy from some people who make an effort to look different to dismiss everyone for "looking the same" - without REALLY looking at how they look.

While its true theres a lot of common themes, theres a lot more variety in human avatar looks than people seem to give credit for.

I play an av thats very petite by SL standards, I like to think I look pretty good. But I definitely did make efforts to look attractive. I admire peopel with original looks. But i dont judge people for having the "Club goer standard body" on that basis alone.
Jake Reitveld
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08-16-2005 12:41
Ultimatley there are a plethora of beautiful bodies out there in SL. And a lot of times our Avis reflect out image of how we would be. Certainly I think there is a degree of homogenousness in avis, because our culture reflects a constant common ideal of beauty. Sl mere mirrors RL in that regard.

Of course with everyone able to have an "Ideal" Body, then things like personality begin to accounf for more and more.
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08-16-2005 12:43
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I find myself drawn to avatars who look different.

We could presume based on the choices we make when we make our avatars that the fantasy land female with the massive chest, tiny waist and rail thin legs is more appealing than an avatar who looks more realistic, or completely out there.


I had a discussion on much the same topic with a friend.

I am assuming that Ingrid's question had to do with avatars that are both humanoid and female. Why, given all of the choices available, do women (and men who choose female AVs) exaggerate some features of the female form? The features that most often become a charicature are those that have a biological signalling function: width of hips, width of waist, chest size, size and color of lips, etc. Male avatars are also exaggerated in many ways, but it seems that the possibilities for customization of male avatars is not as widely available as it is for females (designers, please do not take umbrage, I am repeating what I have heard).

One of the most basic principles of human beauty (and its biological signalling function) is symmetry. Interestingly, though we see avatars of all shapes and sizes, we rarely see asymmetrical avatars (please prove me wrong here).

Why do many choose to perpetuate an aesthetic that we (humans) know is unattainable? Is this just another extension of the 'fantasy land' that Ingrid mentions? I think it has to do with the deep-seeded nature of what human being find pleasing. I would, however, like to see aesthetics shift to a shape that is both more realistic and more representative of nature.
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Schwanson Schlegel
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08-16-2005 12:44
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08-16-2005 12:45
Funny - I'm not too keen on the barbie look either but my AV tends in that direction I guess.

She is 7ft tall, is very, very muscular, but all the same has quite a "set of lungs", though I did use the sag button. :p

I also aged my AV (to the best extent that I could).

Oh and she had big damn feet too and is costing me a fortune in special shoes. :mad:
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08-16-2005 12:48
I think Schwan would have prefered if this thread was set up as a pole!
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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08-16-2005 12:48
From: Schwanson Schlegel
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You are officially kicked out of my thread. I might still talk to you in world though. MAYBE.
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08-16-2005 12:48
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I think Schwan would have prefered if this thread was set up as a pole!

:D :D
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08-16-2005 12:48
I live in a place where the women tend to look like Ernest Borgnine with saggy tits and a cigarette hanging from their lips. I am all in favor of the current av situation, thank you very much.
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08-16-2005 12:49
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I live in a place where the women tend to look like Ernest Borgnine with saggy tits and a cigarette hanging from their lips. I am all in favor of the current av situation, thank you very much.


You live in Ingrid's basement? :eek:
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08-16-2005 12:49
From: Schwanson Schlegel
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you forgot the boobs!
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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08-16-2005 12:51
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You live in Ingrid's basement? :eek:


YOU'RE GONE TOO. :p
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08-16-2005 12:51
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I've noticed many female human avatars are quite homogenous looking. Mine included to some extent except for 2 glaring ommisions. ;) I would think it's only human nature to make an avatar with some appeal but I'm wondering if this is what others really want to see? I find myself drawn to avatars who look different.

We could presume based on the choices we make when we make our avatars that the fantasy land female with the massive chest, tiny waist and rail thin legs is more appealing than an avatar who looks more realistic, or completely out there. But is actually the case? Are we wrong? (loaded question, I know, but I'm still hoping some will reply)

Disclaimer: I'm not objecting to anyone's avatar. Just genuinely curious.


I'm drawn to women avatars that are unique, and thus beautiful.

There's limits, of course... a mashed-potatoed face, one boob, and wrinkly, dead, flaking skin isn't my idea of beautiful :P But just like in real life, I always seem to define beauty in the minor imperfections in people... Freckles, maybe, or glasses, or slightly frazzled hair, maybe a little thick... whatever. Imperfection is beauty :)

I always found the Barbie-proportioned avatars to be boring and cookie cuttered.

But don't listen to me.. I'd like to think I'm one of the more unique human avs out there... trademark helicopter hat, sweet specs, herringbone jacket, short, slightly chubby, and ripped jeans. And prim sneakers. :)

I'm definitely not Joe Average Avatar.

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