SL Mafias/Familia's

Gotta love a long thread

Roleplay as in RPG's - I think you will find that RPG's began FIRMLY entrenched in fantasy settings - i.e places/beings that do not exist. Now excuse me for pointing out the blindingly obvious but portraying a member of an Islamic/Irish terror organisation is NOT fantasy it's reality and sooner or later your going to run into someone who had connections with 9/11 or with an ex British Soldier/Civilian - and then your going to piss someone off.

That wont happen if your roleplaying a Dark Elf now will it?

So the Mafia dont compare to terror groups? I think you'll find that the Mafia had links with the Bay of Pigs and are heavily involved in the Civil Wars that rage in Columbia - do your homework. I think you'll also find that when Lucky Luciano became boss of bosses that the Mafia ceased to be an Italian organisation, in fact the man responsible for the Mafia's sucess was not an Italian at all, but Jewish - Meyer Lansky.

Mafia in Second Life is a by-word for griefer, I do not doubt even for a second that many people in such groups are nice people but we have a saying in my country - your all tarred with the same brush - and its a FACT that at my club probably 70% of all griefing is caused by someone in a mafia/family group.We had one girl mass neg rated to -21 by people in three mafia groups not to mention countless bombings/shootings.

I think you'll also find that the Mafia's strength is SECRECY, not exactly SL Mafia's strong point now is it. Wouldnt it be interesting if SL had a Police Force that handed out jail sentences(for example a 24 hour ban for a shooting) for these people,Do you think their numbers would dwindle - oh hell yes.

Long and the short of it? You cant portray a Mafia/Crime family in SL because you threaten/shoot/bomb someone then your griefing - unless of course that person is consenting/roleplaying.And thats the WHOLE crux of the argument from page one - the players that these idiots shoot/grief/bomb are NOT consenting - they're just going about their own business until some fool with a gun decides he's 'family' and has to show something.

The whole point of roleplay is that its CONSENSUAL - someone playing a mafiosi who shoots Joe Average who's dancing at his favourite club is NOT roleplaying he's griefing.

After not reading this thread in its entirety, I'm going to form ... NOT a Mafia ... but a gang. Yes ... we'll be hot gangsta women with hootchie hair. We will rule zee wurled!!!11one

Ahem, i guess you are aware than mafia doesn't exist only in the US, do you?

Yes, I'm a Police Officer.

Linden Labs does hand out a ban for those who are reported griefing others. Though perhaps it is not long enough.

He said nothing about getting involved with a mafia, he was being shot at while shopping... There's a HUGE difference but apparently some people have about as much practice in using their brain as a dead rodent.

He was being shot at in a store on a private sim... It being a private sim, that means that the sim itself is running the store... This is INCREDIBLY bad for business... Eddie, What's the name of the sim so i can make it a point never to shop there?

Anyway, I could use some mafia lovin'... There's nothing I enjoy more than teaching mafia types the true meaning of violence. Suffice to say that when i'm accosted, overkill is my middle name.

The DarkSide Mafia knows this, and there's another mafia I had a runin with earlier that after I got tired of their push guns, I smacked them so hard, their shields broke... and they were using the best shields in the game too!

The way I look at it is this... If you're going to be in a mafia type group, you should be weary of people like me that make their own weapons and have the mind of an evil genius... And you should especially be weary of shooting any such people... I bite back, hard and I'm bigger than any mafia family can handle!

Bring'em on!

I'm going to get into my mafia charactor and come DEMAND some lash hair to my specifications. And you'll HAVE to make it.... cuz like... mafia roleplay is about power and demanding! I think that's what i read anyway =p

No...really.... make more hair hehe

Nope - what I'll be doing is ignoring 99% of people with Mafia tags as usual.

This actually did happen to me, and more than once. Of course they found themselves muted and ignored for the time being...

Recent article at www.secondlifeherald.com documents Mafia member who "nuked" the Welcome Area (Though unsanctioned by his "family". I wonder if this will make the Lindens crack down and enforce Zero Tolerance even sooner....

i regretfully doubt it...

My entire party was wiped out by Dark Elves, thanks for opening that old wound.

I should start the Abbot Family to boss around the Costello Family that'd be neat, yeh.

God. DAMN. DROW!

Heh I hate mafias. Just because they have the intellegance to add a curse word to every sentance and they are a so called "family" they think they can push everyone around. I use to be in an army/mafia thing and it fell apart anyway. Looking back on it it was stupid and childish. Because you have a weapon that can push me 2 sims everytime I see them does not make me want to cry to my mommy or quit SL.

These people obviously want attention in some way or the other. They want you to shout "OMFG I AM SOoooOOo scared of you! YOU Are God Aaahh YOUR PUSH BULLETS enterd My PRIm boness AhHH! I'm bleeding blood textures OOooOOOo"

Anyway that all I have to say. I doubt any people in those mafia thingys are italian anyway...

You know...I find it funny that you post about an article you obviously didn't read correctly. If you did then you would had read several times that the family you speak of was in fact not invovled in the incident. And that the attack on the Welcome Center was the actions of one indivdual that was (1) bored, (2) hates Lindens and (3) was terriorizing Newbies. You also would have read that the individual is not in that family and hasn't been for a while.

But then again you would know this if you read the article correctly now wouldn't you.

This thread makes me smile.

*puts contract out on Schwanson*

Obviously *YOU* didn't read her post correctly- she said it was "unsanctioned" by his family.


Oh, do you not know what that means?

Umm, I (A he lance ) read the article fully. According to the reporter who wrote the article, he was in the family at the time. But as I wrote in my post, it was UNSANCTIONED BY HIS FAMILY. If you don't understand what unsanctioned means, it is not my fault.

Sorry 'bout that.

You know.. this is a gmae, and people come here to love out thier fantasy lives. All of us do. expecting truth in rendering is plain silly. There is no obligation to present ourselves as we really are.. here we can see ourselves as how we want to be. Its a game. So the fat insurance salesman can be a major leauge outfielder, and the skinny geeky kid can be a badass gangsta. No one owes you the truth, its a game. God look at the male to femal avatar ratio..no way are than may girls all online.

What they do owe ya is respect, not as an av, but as a player. Part of that respect mean recognizing that you may not buy into thier deal. And they should leave ya alone. But saying someone should not place a crime boss or a racecar driver or whatever makes no sense.

God, I thought this thread was dead but we're still at it. LOL

"Zero Tolerance" is a pipe dream. It may become "Selective Examples" or "Protect the Rich. Sounds like LL got a PR hack from the White House.

I personally endorse nuking the WA as it is a shit hole much like any Greyhound station. A handful of decent people who want to help are overshadowed by a crew of scumbags who either want to bang or take advantage of newbies.

I don't have a family -- just me and the gf, but I officially sanction nuking the WA.

BTW - love the Herald.

I don't think its a pipe dream. Just as long as it is implemented into a standardized discipline procedure. I think the rule should be three strikes and your out when it comes to bombing (translated to using a script to lag people out or throw them from sim) spaces with a lot of people in them, with no specific target, just to cause griefing to the general public.


I think it comes up in relation to Mafia as some of the Mafias seem to attract these "kids" or those who act like kids, but I hear the Lindens are cracking down. As I posted earlier, some of the Mafias are more mature overall than others and have people with different intentions in each. Some are more like families, etc. However, it seems a few have attracted these kinds of people.

As I read though, the person responsible for bombing the WA was booted from his family for doing so.