How Would You Define an Inflammatory Post

haha.. Sorry, this post made me barf a tad!

Yeah right. We welcome and chat and talk with new people daily on these forums, and welcome and help them tremendously. No one has an issue with new people on the forums. The forums just have an issue with assholes. Doesn't matter if they are newborn or 80. An asshole still stinks.

I made valid reports, and they did not handle it properly. Blaze was right. They are taking sides.

Post 95 may put people on the defensive, but there is no excuse for the flames that came after it. No decent moderator would tolerate this.

One of the few people here that actually does enjoy forum anonymity is blaze, so I guess he's the right person to speak to that. The rest of us (or those I know of, at any rate) post under the same Avatar names we live our Second Life under. So yes, there is an element of anonymity playing into our posts, not nearly as much as plays into blaze's posts, who admits to posting with alts as if the forum were an RPG.

Now, as for posting for the right reasons... If you indeed are reporting for the right reasons, why do you feel the need to announce it to everyone? The glory? The 'I'll tell mommy' factor? That's something I just don't understand personally. You aren't the only person that does it, but it's just not a mindset I understand.

Unless something is incredibly imflammatory, (example, if I answered Pendari's post above by calling her a name or outing something about her personal life (and I use her as an example because she knows I never would do either) I can simply skip over those posts and write it off as drivel. I do it all the time. If it is extremely imflammatory, then I report it to the Mods with my reasons, and let them handle it, and skip over it anyway.

This coming from the person whose main claim to fame so far has been to spamming the topic with over 30 pastes of "inflammatory remarks, abuse reported" tripe?

Get a grip.

Taking advice from Blaze about being "grownup" about it all is a treat, too, considering that the persona exists solely in the forums (that is to say, the alt of someone else).

I take people a lot more seriously when they don't gallop around a forum like it's their personal playground/bully podium.

Sadly, very few people do this anymore. It's a ton of in-jokes, picture insults, snide comments, and moderated threads.

Why do I visit anymore?

LF

Because you love me? *batts eyelashes*

blaze, you've made some decent points, but have taken it to such an extreme that it is hard to take YOU seriously.

It's been my experience that many, many people are different in RL than they are on the internet. I mean much more reserved and cautious in their comments.

But on the net, people are much freer with their comments (snotty or otherwise), because there are virtually no consequences for doing so.

Pleasure,

The only discussion you even attempted in that thread was
"Abusive Language. Trolling. Personal attacks.
This person has no intention or participating in proper logical discussion.
This person's intention it is malicious."

WTF are you doing accusing others of going off topic, when you never even had an on topic post? At least in this thread, it is on topic.

If you are seriously wondering why your post was edited, it is because you had a list of names. That is not allowed on these forums.



Are you part Vulcan? You seem to be really logical. Human beings do not always behave logically, especially when the discussion involves something they are passionate about. You are interacting with other, passionate human beings, if you jump in a thread and poke everyone with a sharp stick, expect to get poked back. The way you approached that thread makes it apparent that you have not yet figured out how to use all of your logic to figure out that nobody likes a tattle tale.

I have an idea, instead of creating more drama about how you derailed a thread, start a productive thread to discuss some important issue in SL. All of these divisive, accusatory, bullshit threads get old.

There are some consequences, but yes it isn't quite the same. There is also the problem of interpretting nuances in writing language.

What will scare off the "seriously smart people" is not what happens in the forums. What is going to scare them off is the continued instability of the platform. What is a joke is being disconnected repeatedly while trying to do simple things, having your prims move on their own, or your work disappear from inventory. That is the bad humor that just isn't funny and is going to scare people away, and what someone who cares so much about talking about SL should be worried about.

Wasn't the "what's the strangest place you've done it" thread posted in general just yesterday one of yours? Heh. Please spare use the lecture. See that's the thing... discussion involves chatting, and debate, and humor, and diatribe. A seminar involves lecture. I'm not here for that. Plenty of serious discussion takes place here every day, along with plenty of discussion that's anything but... and everything in between.

Does no one's mouse come with a scroll wheel anymore? Is it traumatic to have to skip past posts you think are off topic or unpleasant? People who can't do that and have to stop in the middle of a thread to stare at the accidents are usually the ones who hold up traffic. A kind of forum rubbernecking that persists long after the wreckage has been moved to the shoulder. The best way to foster the kind of on-topic intelligent discussion you want is to carry on having it. If a fist fight breaks out or a rabbit with a pancake on its head goes bouncing past just ignore it.

And not posting with the sole purpose of being a contrary *edited* helps too.

Jonquille, quit personally attacking folks in the forum. I don't do AR but I do do the frowny face:

Remember every time you resist insulting someone in the forums, an angel gets its wings.

~Ulrika~

I would add having to wait 5 minutes for your inventory to load to that list.

No. Thanks anyway though Mommy.

I'm finding it quite difficult to craft a scathing retort to someone who has the most adorable icon in the forum. I can't help but wonder if they really put melon husks on the kitty or if they photoshopped that in.

~Ulrika~

Pleasure;

I too fall under the "c" rule Blaze explained above and I too say Bravo for saying how you feel. Blaze is right tho in most of what he has said.

I would also like to add however look around at the other fourms and news reporting going on reguarding SL and their fourms that's where the truth is. If all I read was what I have read in these forums I would find this all very pathetic to say the least.

Case in point I read a comment on a well known sl news site in recent days. of a regular poster telling a now banned poster that he/she could thank the regular poster personaly for getting him/her banned. For some all the forums are is a sick little mind game. For others they come they have enough guts to say how they realy feel and manage to somehow stick to their guns.

There forums are in no way equaly regulated, I think Jeska needs a hell of a lot more help in doing her job tbh. No I can't blame her she is doing the best she can I'm sure. Unfortunatly more often than not its the good folks who tend to get shafted. Sorry but until things are managed fairly that won't change. That is why a very well known poster just up and walked away one day.

I for one am proud of you Sorry if I rambled on I tend to do that some days

Mar

Perfectly stated, Chip. I, for one, want and expect the serious, not serious and everything in between. For those that have jobs , do we spend the entire work day engaging solely in the serious (for some) tasks that are required of us? No. Life and SL would put you in the nutbarn if you didn't lighten up every so often. Please, carry on with the Uber-Intelligent discussion. I will be happy to engage, but don't be surprised when I throw a non-sequitor in there.

EDIT: Does anyone ever sleep?

Hmm... and you have green blood and pointed ears, too, I'd wager.

SL is all about tolerance. That includes skipping forum threads that you may find a little out of whack, because, for the most part, the people doing the namecalling are old friends. Well, except for blaze. We all put up with him because he puts out.

What we tend NOT to want to tolerate is whiny little boys who gripe at everything in sight. Be an adult and quit taking every-fricking-thing so personally.

You're the one who came in to SL and immediately started a "free sex club" group, right?

This week is Amnesty Week for the teen grid.

P2

um thats a little over kill there um.

Mar

PPL are now ganging up on the orginal poster. I might also like to add some personal attacks are being made as well as name calling. This is a damn shame for the fourms.

Mar

Shame on you.

The performance issues in SL are primary to the user experience. This thread makes me wonder if disappointment with the LL's failure to meet long term players expectations is being acted out here. It could have been explained to the OP that naming people was what not allowed and that was what generated the warning. There is nothing to say that other participants in that thread did not also receive a warning.

The manner in which the opinions have been expressed here are offensive. I have to wonder if the increased number of new members vocalizing their negative experience in this forum hasn't touched a loud and resounding chord. The best defense is a good offense?

This forum is one component of SL. It is another negative experience to add to the laggy and griefer filled WA and the performance issues. It is an embarassing one for LL and adds to its difficulty in moving forward. This could be an opportunity to show the professional adult counterpart to the skills that are utilized inside SL. Maybe individuals who do not want SL to become a platform for have reason to keep it down.

Please take some time to reflect on this place and whether the time for a change has come.

(Written before I have read this morning's entries.)

Those who consider it “adult” to be nasty, cynical, mean, and snotty are the ones who run these forums, thus bringing them down to the juvenile level you noticed.

As far as I can tell, no one actually moderates the boards. What the mods do (and as far as I can tell, there are only two of them, and they are part-time) is respond to abuse reports.

You got abuse reported by somebody (or several someones), for spamming (repeating the same message) which you did, in fact, do. As far as we know, some of the ones you reported got warned also, but I wouldn't count on it.

When I joined in March, I came in here to find two of the posters being tarred and feathered by a whole bunch of the others. One of them was a friend of mine from another game, making me all the more passionate about it. I stood up for both those people, and for several people since.

This has earned me considerable grief.

I tried a lot of things to bring the tenor of the forums up to the level of other decent forums, but for that, I got ridiculed like you wouldn’t believe.

Those who like the status quo – because they think it is “adult” – are often the very ones you will see putting a new poster in her place for objecting to the way the forums are. I hope Blaze is right, and that soon those of us who DON’T like it will outnumber them.

Blaze, by the way, is an alt; in part because this way he can say things he would be afraid to say under his real name, because it could hurt his business/es. I am really me, despite being called an alt for the first 3-4 months, because I’m not the slightest bit afraid of a bunch of forum bullies.

coco

You are aspiring too noble of reasons for Blaze's use of an alt. He has openly admitted on more than one occasion that he purposely games the forums with his alt to manipulate situations for his entertainment. That does not contribute to a more positive environment - it just further inflames things.