I'm back for the 1.2!!! READ ME!

I have to agree... one of the first things I did was check Whois. If I'd been a potential investor I'd have chucked any thoughts of investing straight into the garbage at what I found.

I don't know jack about "ICANN" (spelling was wrong in Eggy's proxied-posting), but I think "ICANN violator" means exactly what you just pointed out. I have a strong feeling that it's not legal (by who's law, I don't know) to put fake contact information in there. But I'm sure Chance didn't know that when he did that....I don't blame him. (Especially with privacy issues the way there are nowadays.)

I just got off work, and I come home, and read this thread first thing.

I'll, uh, believe it when I see it, Chance.


I went to your website... you are far from a "big name in the gaming scene". I'm a hardcore gaming geek, and I've never heard of you.

Doing a google search, the only sites that link to zirux.com are zirux.com pages themself.

So you host servers... big deal. You're not exactly a freewheeling CEO then.

Everyone else, can calm down... Chance can sure pump 600 dollars a month to linden labs, but that just means that he is ABLE to buy up TO 3 Sims. It does NOt mean he can waltz in and grab Tan, Boardman, and Kissling. This isn't Monopoly, after all. He still has to pay for it with Linden Dollars, which as far as I or anyone else knows, isn't going to be buyable with real dollars (yet, anyway). You gotta get it via stipend/other players, and Chance will be waiting a long time before his stipend up to L$50,000 a week.

I'm a CEO, too, by the way.. of Option42.com. Isn't that impressive? It's amazing! I run my own "business!"

Nevermind the fact that I'm a poor college student, living with my parents, going to community college... I "run" my "business" of letting people download my music, and maybe having them buy a cd or two. But, Gosh Darnit, I'm a CEO.

Big deal, eh? it's not, really.

Money is still not the great unequalizer that it is in RL. We are safe.

LF

Chip, we're not STARTING a server business ew've been doing it for years. And I'm not trying to get LL to use my servers at all.

I'd agree with your last point Lord... if there wasn't such a huge discrepancy between RL money and L$.

If they fix THAT.... problem solved.

Lordfly, would have been nice if you read what I said. I didn't say "We're a big NAME in the gaming scene", I said "We are big into the gaming scene"m you see the difference? If not, then I'll make it clear for you. We offer a lot of things to gamers, and gaming communities. If any of you were or are into TSO, then most of you have heard of SimShadow ( simshadow.com ) which we made several donations to, and they are now one of the largest greif fighting communities that exist. We set them on their way, and never asked for anything.

Also, google, you must not know how to use it... Try going to http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=zirux you'll see several gaming sites state how we help them and their clans out, along with several gaming servers hosted by us... Also some websites that we have designed in the past.

The saddest part, is that I KNOW you're feeling like a complete dumb ass about now. I'm sure everyone else here knows you are too. Expecially saying that the only sites linking to my company is just pages within my site, when google have over 10 pages of sites talking about us, etc. LoL, grow up and research before you try to talk head on a highly respected company in the gaming era.

Also, You should read the whole thread before talking head, because I did stat that I am not rich, nor did I ever attempt to claim to be, I simply said that I was going to buy 1-3 sims worth of land, and raffle it off, and rent it out a 1.1 prices. It went from a simple post to people talking shit.

Get a life, learn to research, and go with eggy to your own pitty party thread, leave mine out of it.

P.S.
I searched google for Option42, not a damn thing about you. Goto google, type "ZiruX", looks like you're the no-one.

All these personal attacks are depressing. It takes two to tango, somebody step off.

I am just concerned about the corporate aspect seeping into the game and how it will play out. I dont really care who is pulling the strings as long as Linden Labs has complete control of it all.

My main concern is seeing that if a sim comes online, it never has to go offline. I am sure that this is why we have not seen more sims in world to date.

What I plan to do with land has nothing to do with my corp. I'm simply going to purchase land to keep people happy by renting it out for the 1.1 L$ prices. You guys are taking this and bringing up non existant angles.

So much for that theory You might want to think about adding a client list to your website. It looks great but it's pretty sparse. I just guessed on your angle from my perceptions of your site. If I thought that, others will too.

I didn't think we would need a client database being listed. That and it would be too big of a list for our gaming server clients.

We have been in the scene for quite some time, and are pretty well known for doing gamers and game companies a lot of favors, and love to be apart of the gaming community.

I'm starting to see Second Life as a great game, but an overly dramatic community.

In my oppinion, I think there should be a greifing policy. These forums have just turned into war zones.

The only way SL is going to succeed is if it has a good community that works together. And by the look of all the hassel just from 1.2, and the combination of the fire on this thread, I don't see a chance of SL continuing anyfuther, unless some big ass company DOES come by and decided to sponsor SL, and have advertisements posted inworld. The only reason why Everquest is such a sucessful MMORPG to this date is the fact that it has a great community. More EQ players now, never play it for the story but more for working with a team of friends. If you want to flame each other with harsh remarks, based upon oppinions or choices, then play a game that is worthy of that type of attitude like UT2003, CS or some FPS game.

I remember back in the beta stages when we flamed and bitched about the monthly payment being $15, but most of you got though that (except me ). Why make such a hassel now when most of you all know it will turn out fine come Feburary. If you don't like the changes, leave. If you want to see what happens stay. One way or another LL is still going to make $$$ no matter which way they decided to travel for SL. And by the looks of the up comming pricing they will be gettign a lot more users comming online as their prices beat mmorpg games such as EQ, AO, and SWG.

Jason Smith, VERY well said. Probably the best thing said in this entire thread, and I FULLY agree. Wether we like it or not, LL owns SL, and we either have to deal with it or leave.

It takes two to tango, and I'm more than happy to step up to the plate.

Some points:

1) I may be an ass, but not a "dumb" ass, as it were. I just know how to argue with people that don't know any better.

2) Insulting fellow players in Second Life is hardly a surefire way to endear yourself to them, much less have them part with their money. As a "CEO", I would have figured you knew that.

3) I may be an annoying git on here, but I don't have a reputation of hacking slot machines and orbiting people with jetball guns.

sources, by the way: /120/5c/5201/1.html

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As for me... my most disreputable actions in SL would be plopping a sign about some policies I disagree with (hi bob in the ground, and having a short-lived billboard company, shut down voluntarily after massive negative consumer reaction.

By the by, the "option42.com" post was dripping, nay, DIPPED in sarcasm. Remove thyself from your high chair and re-read it with that in mind.

People know me because I construct houses for people... if I make a fool of myself and lose the respect of most of the people on here (unlikely, I hope), I can simply go back to the game and continue building for people.

You have more to lose because you're fronting massive amounts of money towards people, expecting to turn a profit with your "investment". Nevermind the fact that you've insulted at least 2 people in this thread, and have a dubious reputation.

Consider your business venture looked down upon on my side of the SL world.

My suit is asbestos, and my tongue shoots acid.

Have a good one

LF

Blame is for kids.

Isn't the cost to purchase land a monthly fee? You don't pay 1ce, you pay each month? How can you possibly afford that? Developer insentives are for people who actually create stuff that other people like. The first round was based on dwell but there is no guarantee that it will continue to be based on dwell.

Hi, Jack. How ya been?

fINE jUST fINE.

How can you afford to pay for 3 sims each month?

From work that I do, and web/game/radio server hosting.

And mostlikely I'm only going to start with 1 sim's worth of land, and raffle away some land and rent out the rest, and see how it goes. If it becomes a big problem, then I'm just oging to stick with that single sim, if the response is good, and people get a better understanding of what I'm doing, then I'll get more.

I think the biggest problem is that they are thinking I'm trying to bring my corp into SL, and stick advertisements everywhere, when that isn't the case at all. Now YES, MAYBE I'll mention my corp every once and a while, but by no means am I trying to use SL as an advertising source for my corp.

I like SL, and want to pitch in for the players.

So, Eggy, I understand your position, but you haven't given me a shot. So, let's both of us relax, and see it as it happens. When I have things going, if you don't like it, then maybe you can hit me up, and we can talk about how I should play it to make it beter for the community. If you would haev hit me up persoanlly about it in the first place, a lot of anger and trash talking could have been avoided. But personal attacks at me, without even giving my plan a chance, was not the way to go. So if you wanna talk, hit me up, let's talk, swap around ideas.

Jack, no quarrel with you. I did stupid things, as all newbies to a game do (or atleast most, they experiment, and try to find their boundries). I did stupid shit, and I am sorry for that. Let's let it end here.

I think eggy just likes the sound of his own keyboard...

but Chance, i'm still confused. is this going to make you money? or are you donating your RL $ to the community? and just to play devils advocate a bit, why is it a good idea for the player? why wouldnt they just get the land from the lindens?

Hear, hear! Let's all start out the year - AND 1.2 - clean and without all the rancor and bitterness that have been so common of late. We all do a few stupid things when we start our second lives, so let's give everyone the benefit of a doubt.

I make no profit from this. And in order to have more land from the lindens you have to have more money (L$ or US$), from what I currently understand.

I'm just offering land for 1.1 pricing/payments, as well as raffling it away, so you just buy the ticket, after that, if you win, you don't pay nothing weekly, you have the land.

So, in some aspect, yes I am donating my US$ (RL $) to the community.

wow thats really nice of you Chance!

whow thats real nice of you Jack!

**huggs**

LOL
Get offa me you perv

I retract my harsh statements. I've been grumpy lately (not enough sleep)

I'll still wait to see it though

LF