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Eggy Lippmann
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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12-15-2003 15:51
I've been grumpy for the past 20 years or so. My mom says I'm an 80 yr old stuck in a 20yr old bootay :D
I'm really glad its not the other way around! hahahah! :D
Ryen Jade
This is a takeover!
Join date: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,329
12-15-2003 16:20
Chance, please, dont leave agian, this is a great idea, and just because some people dont like it, I apperciate that your doing it for the community, and not for self gain
Chance Small
Linden PITA
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 170
12-15-2003 18:06
LF, thanks for the retraction.

Ryen, I'm not going anywhere. Either way, I'm going to give it a shot, and see how it pans out.
Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
12-15-2003 22:35
From: someone
Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo
I think eggy just likes the sound of his own keyboard...

God, that's hilarious.

True though, it seems to me a lot of these threads end up serving purely m*******tive purposes.
BuhBuhCuh Fairchild
Professional BuhBuhCuh
Join date: 9 Oct 2002
Posts: 503
12-16-2003 00:04
I just can't resist - from the postings in this thread, it seems that at least 4 out of every 5 CEOs recommend Second Life.
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Malachi Petunia
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Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
12-16-2003 11:38
I'm CEO of my coffee cup, does that count?
Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
Idiot!
12-16-2003 11:43
Anyone who comes into SL and says I'm an idiot and I have a silly company and I'm going to take all the new sims for some rubbish system with ongoing land taxation like the taxation we just got rid of is an idiot.

I have paid $200 US for a lifetime account and I don't want to pay ANY rent for it cause I'm legally obliged that by SL/Linden Labs.

If someone buys up all the new sims (I think there'll only be three or so) and reinstates the old taxes, what is my lifetime account worth?

Listen to me once and listen well. If one person takes control of all of these new sims and charges taxes etc for the land, we will never have the freedom to do what we like, and that's the end of Second Life.

Linden Labs know that, that's why they built 1.2 To undo 1.2 would be terrible. To take away all you people who own acres and acres and hog it, and to replace you with one guy who owns most of everything would be abysmal.
Dan Rhodes
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Join date: 5 Jul 2003
Posts: 268
12-16-2003 12:37
I'm CEO of freshairconsultant.com

If anyone wants to be in my company and be a fresh air consultant please let me know. hehehe

* Well as soon as it propagates
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
12-17-2003 00:02
I am CEO of 'Losers Anonymous'.
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Squeedoo Galatea
Yo Mama's Good China...
Join date: 22 Nov 2003
Posts: 38
Re: Idiot!
12-17-2003 09:20
From: someone
Originally posted by Jsecure Hanks
Anyone who comes into SL and says I'm an idiot and I have a silly company and I'm going to take all the new sims for some rubbish system with ongoing land taxation like the taxation we just got rid of is an idiot.

I have paid $200 US for a lifetime account and I don't want to pay ANY rent for it cause I'm legally obliged that by SL/Linden Labs.

If someone buys up all the new sims (I think there'll only be three or so) and reinstates the old taxes, what is my lifetime account worth?

Listen to me once and listen well. If one person takes control of all of these new sims and charges taxes etc for the land, we will never have the freedom to do what we like, and that's the end of Second Life.

Linden Labs know that, that's why they built 1.2 To undo 1.2 would be terrible. To take away all you people who own acres and acres and hog it, and to replace you with one guy who owns most of everything would be abysmal.


*giggle* Wow, Jsecure, not very "secure" aren't ya?

I may be taking the "pie in the sky" route here, but don't worry. It'll be fine. Just breathe for a minute, alright?

Wow, this thread is hot with rich vs. poor and 1.2 anxiety. I'll just have to wait and see. :cool:
Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
12-17-2003 11:32
Ha Ha,

If I had a cent for every "secure" joke about the name, I'd buy all the sims in SL and share them equally.

I'd say wether I'm 'secure' or not is irrelevant...
Chance Small
Linden PITA
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 170
12-17-2003 14:22
Once again, not rich, just able to pay additional expenses. I drive a '99 Ford Escort ZX2 (Salvage Title) that had a car boarded back window, missing (stolen) stereo, and back lights don't work. So by no means am I rich.
Regnar Bell
Senior Member
Join date: 11 Aug 2003
Posts: 84
I dont understand
12-17-2003 14:30
Chance,
Of course I (and a whole bunch of others I'm sure) appreciate everything you are offering to do and of course how you spend your money is of course none of my beeswax. I do not understand though why someone would pay for a sim or 3 and need repair work done on their car . Did I misread that ? In Any case Good Luck !
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
12-17-2003 14:43
The money he intends to spend isn't his. It belongs to the company he is in that I am too lazy to go back and look for.
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Ironchef Cook
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Join date: 23 Jun 2003
Posts: 574
12-17-2003 15:03
From: someone
Chance, Of course I (and a whole bunch of others I'm sure) appreciate everything you are offering to do and of course how you spend your money is of course none of my beeswax. I do not understand though why someone would pay for a sim or 3 and need repair work done on their car . Did I misread that ? In Any case Good Luck !


My thoughts too. If I had an extra $600/month to spend, it would be going to a new Lexus and the NBA TV package on DirectTV.
Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
12-17-2003 16:07
Whatever.

When the Lindens release 1.2 in a few days they will launch more sims. If at least 50% of these do not go to public use, I will lobby the Lindens either to cancel one person controlling multiple sims, or add on more sims, or give me my $200 US dollars back.

The Lindens said they'd implement 1.2. I don't like 1.1. I don't want to see 1.1 anymore. And if anyone tries to buy up all the sims and force us all to stay with 1.1 style land rents, I will lobby the Lindens to stop them in their tracks or add new sims, or I want my cash back.
Chance Small
Linden PITA
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 170
Re: I dont understand
12-17-2003 18:04
From: someone
Originally posted by Regnar Bell
Chance,
Of course I (and a whole bunch of others I'm sure) appreciate everything you are offering to do and of course how you spend your money is of course none of my beeswax. I do not understand though why someone would pay for a sim or 3 and need repair work done on their car . Did I misread that ? In Any case Good Luck !


Because I'm going to be guying a new car in Feb. Why waste money on this one?
Chance Small
Linden PITA
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 170
12-17-2003 18:06
From: someone
Originally posted by Devlin Gallant
The money he intends to spend isn't his. It belongs to the company he is in that I am too lazy to go back and look for.


The company money is my money. If it is my company, then how would the money generated not be mine?
Alondria LeFay
Registered User
Join date: 2 May 2003
Posts: 725
12-17-2003 18:18
From: someone
Originally posted by Jsecure Hanks
Whatever.

When the Lindens release 1.2 in a few days they will launch more sims. If at least 50% of these do not go to public use, I will lobby the Lindens either to cancel one person controlling multiple sims, or add on more sims, or give me my $200 US dollars back.

The Lindens said they'd implement 1.2. I don't like 1.1. I don't want to see 1.1 anymore. And if anyone tries to buy up all the sims and force us all to stay with 1.1 style land rents, I will lobby the Lindens to stop them in their tracks or add new sims, or I want my cash back.


And whom states that you will be forced to rent, live, or even go to their land? You say you are all into 1.2, but you are upset if someone utilizes the capabilities of 1.2?
Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
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Re: Re: I dont understand
12-17-2003 18:33
From: someone
Originally posted by Chance Small
Because I'm going to be guying a new car in Feb. Why waste money on this one?

G35 by any chance?
Chance Small
Linden PITA
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 170
12-17-2003 18:45
No, Ford Expo. 2001.
Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
12-18-2003 00:45
I don't care what people do with 1.2 as long as nobody buys up all the new land and then charges me their own tax scheme for it. I'm on board with what the Lindens have planned for their system. I want to enjoy 1.2.

I don't want someone else to say "There was 1.2, but I bought all the land and now I'm going to ruin it for you by reinstating the land taxes you thought you saw the back of, and I own all the land, so if you don't like it, stick it".
Dave Zeeman
Master Procrastinator
Join date: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,025
12-18-2003 01:05
FYI: If anyone buys an entire sim using real life money, those sims will be appended to the world specifically for that person. This land will NOT be land that the Lindens will put up for auction to the rest of the world and will also refuse that anybody can purchase a gigantic sum of land using only L$. In other words, you don't have to worry about paying someone elses special tax scheme in order to own land. Not unless you really really want to spend your time on that extra land brought into the world, which quite frankly, would have to be pretty damn special to lure you into any sort of tax scheme.

Nothing against Chance of course, I didn't even read this whole thread. Just saw one guy comment that he was afraid of people buying the world up and I want to assure you that LL will not let it happen.
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
12-18-2003 01:35
Thanks Dave,

That's all I wanted to hear. As long as there's 1.2 land available for me any anyone else who wants it, I'll sleep easy :)

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Jonathan VonLenard
Resident Hippo
Join date: 8 May 2003
Posts: 632
12-18-2003 06:10
From: someone
Originally posted by Loki Pico
Okay, so corporate sim lessors will still have to be productive players since US$ only reserves the rights to amounts of land. The land still has to be purchased with L$.

One sim equals 65,536m of land = L$196,608.
Three sims = L$529,824.

Currently, the richest player in the game cant even afford to buy three sims worth of land in game. Right now, highest net worth of top player is L$328,621.

So, buying rights to three sims worth of land is a waste of money? What am I missing?



Don't forget LL has mentioned many times people buying their own servers and running them remotely, If Zirux were to buy their own servers and rent out hte land then they wouldn't have to buy up the land.

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