Public Reply to Anshe Chung
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Ursa Falcone
Rocket Scientist
Join date: 26 Mar 2004
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11-24-2004 11:38
From: MrsJakal Suavage Lol, Ursa, tysm for the advice but clearly if I go IW to find out what is going on not only will I probably get a "none of your business response" but I don't want to hear what I have already read on the forums. Also several people that I like seem to be at war with each other, which seems to always be sad. (Cat and Jauani are both nice people) I did say at the very beginning "If its true". I clearly don't know both sides, however, I have seen Anshe do this to at least one other person as well for the exact same reason, because she got a neg rate. I just feel its wrong how she retaliates. Can't she just neg rate back? and be done with it? Huggerz, MJ Hugs to you too MJ - hard to stay friendly in this - but essential! I only meant that by going in world you could try out for yourself what routes were available to get from the teleport thihngy to Cat's ladn in Ross. Yes, there is a bunch of land owned by ANshe, but there are ways to get by this - as already stated by myself ad Anshe. I also saw the huge sign built I assume by Cat and posted along Anshe's wall. If Jauani is being truthful - and I haven't known her not to be - then the ORIGINAL banning may have actually been by Cat herself - withdrawn - but perhaps...well, obviously ...too late. I think Anshe does not make idle threats or take action that she doesn't intend to back up. So, when negotiating with her it is probably best to first of all respect her - she seems to have been respectful in her dealings here - as much as possible that is.
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From: someone Jeska Linden: I'm closing this thread because it's obviously overstepped the boundaries of useful conversation, even for the off-topic forum.
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Jonny Dusk
The ArtIst of War
Join date: 29 Sep 2004
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11-24-2004 11:39
Cathrine, if Anshe unbanned you would this be satisfactory for the time being?
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Anshe Chung
Business Girl
Join date: 22 Mar 2004
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11-24-2004 11:43
From: Catherine Cotton This type of banning when your goal is to sell land seems very counter productive. Of course it was. It was also bad for business when I stopped Eddie Vogel from stealing newbie land and called one liason. The best way to satisfy greed and get rich is if you are 100% opportunistic. You don't waste energy standing up against what you think is moraly wrong. You take beating from bully and lick ass and hope they move on. If I would really be 100% business girl I would use 10 alt account to trade land and switch those every 2 month. When in one sim only one piece of land is for sale I would buy it and sell it for 30 L$ per sqm because I know somebody need it and has no choice. At same time everybody would love my main account who could happily win sympathies by flaming land baron of the day. So, my fault obviously is I am not 100% business girl. I stand up to my principles and to what I do and I don't hide what I do. And I don't give in to people who use intimidation and pressure to get their way. Maybe this make me target for many attacks now and maybe somebody believes the slander and won't do business with me. But at least I can get up in the morning and look into the mirror. And I don't see one cowardish opportunistic girl without personality but can look into my face and feel pride.
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-24-2004 11:43
From: Ursa Falcone Hugs to you too MJ - hard to stay friendly in this - but essential! I only meant that by going in world you could try out for yourself what routes were available to get from the teleport thihngy to Cat's ladn in Ross. Yes, there is a bunch of land owned by ANshe, but there are ways to get by this - as already stated by myself ad Anshe. I also saw the huge sign built I assume by Cat and posted along Anshe's wall. If Jauani is being truthful - and I haven't known her not to be - then the ORIGINAL banning may have actually been by Cat herself - withdrawn - but perhaps...well, obviously ...too late. I think Anshe does not make idle threats or take action that she doesn't intend to back up. So, when negotiating with her it is probably best to first of all respect her - she seems to have been respectful in her dealings here - as much as possible that is. Talen and Ursa; Its abundantly clear that you are both Anshe supports, NO I will not take back the neg rating of the ugly for sale signs all over SL that would be saying that I dont realy feel that way and I do. As far as telling me to; "respect her" who the hell is she? some one who boxed me into my land I give respect to those who deserve it by their kind deeds and actions. I do not however bow down to any AVATAR. I hope to god you two are kidding.
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
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11-24-2004 11:45
I think this issue has out lived it's usefullness.
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,434
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11-24-2004 11:46
From: Ursa Falcone Hugs to you too MJ - hard to stay friendly in this - but essential! I only meant that by going in world you could try out for yourself what routes were available to get from the teleport thihngy to Cat's ladn in Ross. Yes, there is a bunch of land owned by ANshe, but there are ways to get by this - as already stated by myself ad Anshe. I also saw the huge sign built I assume by Cat and posted along Anshe's wall. If Jauani is being truthful - and I haven't known her not to be - then the ORIGINAL banning may have actually been by Cat herself - withdrawn - but perhaps...well, obviously ...too late. I think Anshe does not make idle threats or take action that she doesn't intend to back up. So, when negotiating with her it is probably best to first of all respect her - she seems to have been respectful in her dealings here - as much as possible that is. I have done business dealing with Anshe as well, hec at this point who hasn't? But, because she owns so much land that doesn't mean that I'm going to respect her even if I feel that something she has done is wrong. I know its her right to ban whoever she wants, but I still don't think its morally right. However, there are alot of people that I do like and consider friends that are involved in this. So, I will back out of this thread with peace and love to all! Huggerz and Happy Thankgiving Everyone  MJ 
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
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11-24-2004 11:48
I think there should be limits as to how much land you can own in certain sim zones because of this issue alone.
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Jonny Dusk
The ArtIst of War
Join date: 29 Sep 2004
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11-24-2004 11:49
It's appearant that you two just want to bitch at each other!!!!
I must say I'm disappointed that you both continue to ignore the thought of resolution and continue on a rant filled bitchfest.
You've both solidified your place here, knew nothing of you all before, but you sure showed me where your maturity and resolve is located.
have fun "ladies", and man that's used loosly!
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MrsJakal Suavage
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
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11-24-2004 11:49
From: Blake Rockwell I think there should be limits as to how much land you can own in certain sim zones because of this issue alone. Steps back into to thread to say "thats a whole new topic blake, lol"
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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
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11-24-2004 11:49
From: Catherine Cotton Talen and Ursa; Its abundantly clear that you are both Anshe supports, NO I will not take back the neg rating of the ugly for sale signs all over SL that would be saying that I dont realy feel that way and I do.
As far as telling me to; "respect her" who the hell is she? some one who boxed me into my land I give respect to those who deserve it by their kind deeds and actions. I do not however bow down to any AVATAR.
I hope to god you two are kidding. I didn't tell you to respect anyone and I'm taking no sides. It seems to me you don't care about any resolution and you just want to whine...This is a silly little game of drama for attention and you don't deserve to be taken seriously in the matter if your not willing to try and work it out. Like I said before...you have the right to neg rate her signs and she has the right to ban you from her land....grow up and get over it or keep playing the victim and whine. Until you two decide to work it out somehow there will be no change.
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Ursa Falcone
Rocket Scientist
Join date: 26 Mar 2004
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11-24-2004 11:52
From: Catherine Cotton Talen and Ursa; Its abundantly clear that you are both Anshe supports, NO I will not take back the neg rating of the ugly for sale signs all over SL that would be saying that I dont realy feel that way and I do.
As far as telling me to; "respect her" who the hell is she? some one who boxed me into my land I give respect to those who deserve it by their kind deeds and actions. I do not however bow down to any AVATAR.
I hope to god you two are kidding. Why would I be kidding?? This punch and slap forum activity is too much! You have helped to push some of us into Anshe's camp - not Anshe. I never knew her until I just got sick and tired of listening to this constant crap about how awful Anshe is. My god. Now Cristiano is comparing her to Bush and Iraq... Ya see. Its just not that big a deal. IMO. Anshe has always been more that polite and informative with me. Why would I not stand up for her? I have never seen her attack you in the way that you attack her - in the forums. The For Sale signs - are everywhere and are not all hers!!! Hell in Mallard I live right next to giant yellow for sale signs. I mean - these folks are trying to sell land - its allowed - so ...er ah -who is anyone to bother to neg rate it!!?? I just don't get it. Its like someone neg rating some part of your Christmas Island... because maybe they find Christianity offensive. ... maybe they see it as a dark force in the world responsible for the deaths of millions. I mean ya know? Yet its not neg rated. Anshe is just one person... she is making money - I assume - by buying and selling land. People are involved with her in many way son many levels. Good for her. You have alot of support - you are well liked here. Why not just move past this constant irritation in your life? It is something else - because it can't be all Anshe.
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From: someone Jeska Linden: I'm closing this thread because it's obviously overstepped the boundaries of useful conversation, even for the off-topic forum.
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Blake Rockwell
Fun Businesses
Join date: 31 Oct 2004
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11-24-2004 11:52
If you guys keep this type of action up..restrictions may possibly be applied in the future..you may want to drop the subject for those that enjoy being land barons and make resolve with your enemy.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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11-24-2004 11:53
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-24-2004 11:54
From: Anshe Chung Of course it was. It was also bad for business when I stopped Eddie Vogel from stealing newbie land and called one liason.
The best way to satisfy greed and get rich is if you are 100% opportunistic. You don't waste energy standing up against what you think is moraly wrong. You take beating from bully and lick ass and hope they move on.
If I would really be 100% business girl I would use 10 alt account to trade land and switch those every 2 month. When in one sim only one piece of land is for sale I would buy it and sell it for 30 L$ per sqm because I know somebody need it and has no choice. At same time everybody would love my main account who could happily win sympathies by flaming land baron of the day.
So, my fault obviously is I am not 100% business girl. I stand up to my principles and to what I do and I don't hide what I do. And I don't give in to people who use intimidation and pressure to get their way. Maybe this make me target for many attacks now and maybe somebody believes the slander and won't do business with me. But at least I can get up in the morning and look into the mirror. And I don't see one cowardish opportunistic girl without personality but can look into my face and feel pride. I dont know anything about this eddie stuff I took exception with you crying victim. Boxing me in isn't a form of intimidation? Oh yes it most certainly is. I am sure you believe what your doing is right. Will you be banning everyone who rates one of your signs neg? I see I am not thie only one here. So the answer is no. You want me banned? Fine I am banned. Your an Avatar you have no real power here.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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11-24-2004 11:55
Here is the solution right here.
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-24-2004 11:56
From: Talen Morgan I didn't tell you to respect anyone and I'm taking no sides. It seems to me you don't care about any resolution and you just want to whine...This is a silly little game of drama for attention and you don't deserve to be taken seriously in the matter if your not willing to try and work it out.
Like I said before...you have the right to neg rate her signs and she has the right to ban you from her land....grow up and get over it or keep playing the victim and whine. Until you two decide to work it out somehow there will be no change. Talen stop it, I wasn't whining and I was trying to figure out a solution. I didn't care for your opinions of how I should handle this. If you dont care for what is being said or how then I suggest you dont do the thing that hurts you. I serioulsy think your words are only inflaming the situation.
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-24-2004 11:58
From: Ursa Falcone Why would I be kidding?? This punch and slap forum activity is too much! You have helped to push some of us into Anshe's camp - not Anshe. I never knew her until I just got sick and tired of listening to this constant crap about how awful Anshe is. My god.
Now Cristiano is comparing her to Bush and Iraq... Ya see. Its just not that big a deal. IMO. Anshe has always been more that polite and informative with me. Why would I not stand up for her? I have never seen her attack you in the way that you attack her - in the forums.
The For Sale signs - are everywhere and are not all hers!!! Hell in Mallard I live right next to giant yellow for sale signs. I mean - these folks are trying to sell land - its allowed - so ...er ah -who is anyone to bother to neg rate it!!?? I just don't get it. Its like someone neg rating some part of your Christmas Island... because maybe they find Christianity offensive. ... maybe they see it as a dark force in the world responsible for the deaths of millions. I mean ya know? Yet its not neg rated.
Anshe is just one person... she is making money - I assume - by buying and selling land. People are involved with her in many way son many levels. Good for her. You have alot of support - you are well liked here. Why not just move past this constant irritation in your life? It is something else - because it can't be all Anshe.[/QUOTE}
I dont find this helpful.
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Jonny Dusk
The ArtIst of War
Join date: 29 Sep 2004
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11-24-2004 11:59
Trying to find a solution eh?
You've all but ignored me and I took an entirely third party view and tried to help,
you two disregard these posts and jump right back into the childish bickering.
ARE YOU 2 EVEN TRYING TO WORK THINGS OUT, YES OR NO!!!?
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-24-2004 12:01
From: Jonny Dusk It's appearant that you two just want to bitch at each other!!!!
I must say I'm disappointed that you both continue to ignore the thought of resolution and continue on a rant filled bitchfest.
You've both solidified your place here, knew nothing of you all before, but you sure showed me where your maturity and resolve is located.
have fun "ladies", and man that's used loosly! Excuse me was there a time limit? I find it ironic how upset ppl get when the solution does not come to pass on their time. To throw gas on a fire will not put it out. I see a lot of Anshe support here, thats terrific just do not expect me to take you all on  I do not have time for head games.
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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
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11-24-2004 12:03
From: Catherine Cotton Talen stop it, I wasn't whining and I was trying to figure out a solution. I didn't care for your opinions of how I should handle this. If you dont care for what is being said or how then I suggest you dont do the thing that hurts you.
I serioulsy think your words are only inflaming the situation. but you aren't looking for a solution...every post you make says so loud and clear. I don't even know you or Anshe. You want your way without giving an inch...you have to give to get. You aren't even offering solutions that you would find acceptable.
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Jonny Dusk
The ArtIst of War
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11-24-2004 12:07
OK babe, I'm just trying to help.
I don't know Anshe, I don't know you, you seem to respond to the bashing easier than those few here that are trying to help.
Give a second to think what would be an acceptable comprimise (BOTH OF YOU) and thru it in here so we can get somewhere.
Does this sound fair?
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
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11-24-2004 12:08
Apparently Anshe feels she is in the right to ban me from all sides on my land for neg rating her for sale sign. OK that is her opinion and its valid.
I think she is wrong to do so, also valid.
I will continue to be banned. OK I can live with that. My question is and has been;
Who is next and how restricted will they be in world when they realy piss off a land barron.
I try to keep what happens in the forums out of my game time. I have not been logged in world for most of this thread. Anshe wants to hold what is said in these forums against ppl? That is her right.
For me I feel my game play is now restricted. I have taken the matter up with LL for assistance. I seek no further resoltion from you Anshe and now Janaui as it seems we are at an crossroads where none can be found.
For all of you who think what Anshe is doing is ok, wait till you piss off a land baron and look for help. From me no sympathy will be found.
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Jonny Dusk
The ArtIst of War
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11-24-2004 12:09
See Talen's even looking for some good compimise, regardless of sides.
What ya say Ladies?
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
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11-24-2004 12:09
From: Jonny Dusk OK babe, I'm just trying to help.
I don't know Anshe, I don't know you, you seem to respond to the bashing easier than those few here that are trying to help.
Give a second to think what would be an acceptable comprimise (BOTH OF YOU) and thru it in here so we can get somewhere.
Does this sound fair? You created.... A MONSTER!!!
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Jonny Dusk
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11-24-2004 12:11
Monsters yeeeeeeth MuhuhuhahahaHAHAHAHA
Ok Cat, I see your griep. So would this help resolve things for you if Anshe lifted the ban?
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