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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 14:11
Darko - Bro - breathe! Taking deep ones my brother! I promise. ![]() _____________________
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 14:13
Oh btw I am quite sure my views are representative of the community Miss Chung my love!
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Merwan Marker
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10-16-2004 14:30
Oh btw I am quite sure my views representative of the community Miss Chung! Darko that's a slippery slope beyond belief! There really is no way to gage how much any one individual speaks for the whole SL community - at best we guess. You may bro speak for many here, but your other voice is the one best heard - the one that sees yourself in that which you detest, and knows what you detest can't harm you. Anshe does get raked here frequently, and I do see several of the same people involved. Yet she can't be the villainess she's painted to be, for where are the hordes of people she does business with crying foul about her?? _____________________
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
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10-16-2004 14:37
I specifically requested that people not attack or neg rate you - I have the chat logs to prove it. I cannot help how some people choose to respond despite my requests. The thing I think you are incapable of understanding from your perspective is that I'm actually liked within SL, so when someone directs uncalled, studied, harm at me in the face of me being nice, then people who know me naturally respond. I have never had an Alt in SL, as, unlike you, I see no reason to game the system (defaulted on any good auctions lately by the way?)
I would have neg rated you long ago myself if I thought it would in anyway change your behaviour, but, as you have stated, that would just prove my jealousy of you. I'm extremely jealous of the absolute most hated person in the game. You say that these forums are not representative of the community, but have you noticed how people, who never post on these forums, are driven to them because of the rage and hatred you insight. No, I'm sure you haven't, as noticing would take effort an attention to others very real feelings, which have nothing to do with your profits. I've never in my life hated someone before, and I guess I can continue to say that about people I have met in real life, but as to the entity behind Anshe Corp. . . Well, it saddens me to say that my pity for the lonely lonely life of that monstrousity has almost been pushed into hatred. I'll have to think on this more when I don't have a raging headache caused by demeaning myself by foolishly thinking I could reason on a human level with the face of evil. |
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10-16-2004 14:39
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10-16-2004 14:39
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Meiyo Sojourner
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10-16-2004 14:40
Oh btw I am quite sure my views are representative of the community... Okay - I'm rewording this so as not to tick anyone off... I agree with the majority of the posts here. I thank those that are standing up for the best interest of the world. I am not alone but there are many that are too jaded or too afraid to voice there opinions. I do not believe blanket terraforming land is contributing anything to the community. If you want to offer this "service" let the user tell you at the time of the sale. Advertise it as an option. Don't inflict it on the world. Let us have a chance to get the land as the lindens made it. If I had a choice to buy from someone that does this vs someone that doesn't, I would in a heartbeat go with the person that does not. If I had a choice between buying from a baron or buying straight from the lindens, I would buy from the lindens. -Meiyo _____________________
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 14:40
Darko that's a slippery slope beyond belief! There really is no way to gage how much any one individual speaks for the whole SL community - at best we guess. You may bro speak for many here, but your other voice is the one best heard - the one that sees yourself in that which you detest, and knows what you detest can't harm you. Anshe does get raked here frequently, and I do see several of the same people involved. Yet she can't be the villainess she's painted to be, for where are the hordes of people she does business with crying foul about her?? Good point my brother. I apologize for making such an arrogant and presumptive statement. I will say I have yet to see many replies thanking her for her service or begging her to continue in her service of raping the land and imposing her aesthetic forcefully onto this world. One love! _____________________
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 14:46
This thread has gone beyond a constructive exchange. If you choose to contribute, please consider these guidelines. Basic Forum Policies and Etiquette Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Threads that are addressed to a single individual are inappropriate on the forums. Think before you post – sometimes in the heat of a passionate discussion you may be tempted to say something that on reflection you will regret. If your words do more harm to the community than they might give you pleasure in the short term, reconsider posting. Flaming, Spamming, Trolling – Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are strongly discouraged. If you think your post might be over-reactive, or that it might fall into one of these definitions, please reconsider posting. OK! Considered. ![]() _____________________
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Jauani Wu
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10-16-2004 14:53
1. i think it is very convenient this thread began friday night after the lindens were asleep.
2. i saw nothing offensive in crescent. anshe flattened some land to suit the buyer market. oneronaut built a floating barge of scattered games. both were within thier rights and neither of them fell into the pink castle category. 3. oneronaut fits into the category of players who needs flat land to build (hence the platform floating over the land) 4. anshe fits into the category of players who will flatten and sell land. .'. 5. anshe and oneronaut should get together for a mutually beneficial land sale. _____________________
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Jack Digeridoo
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10-16-2004 14:57
Anyone care to post screen shots that relate to the subject of this thread? I couldn't see the choas or destruction when I went to look.
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 15:00
Anyone care to post screen shots that relate to the subject of this thread? I couldn't see the choas or destruction when I went to look. Jack this one incident is not terribly important. It is a on going series of actions taking by Anshe to maximize her profits at any cost to others. It is just fucking wrong. Having said that I am sure someone has pics. Anshe I sincerely feel sadness for you. What a miserable life you must lead. Part of the joy in life is helping other people, a quality you know little to nothing about. I am disgusted by your self serving egomaniacal ways. I promise to organize and act in whatever way necessary to prevent you from continuing to this despicable raping of the land. One love. _____________________
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Daemioth Sklar
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10-16-2004 15:01
Lindens, help. Why are so many pleas for help ignored.
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 15:03
And for the record One has been telling people not to neg rate Anshe. In fact he has not neg rated her nor have I.
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
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10-16-2004 15:17
Jack,
The best move Anshe could have pulled strategically was to not really alter the land much, after telling me she was going to flatten it into terraces. Go a little beyond that beach, and look at some of the squared out flat land she has made, or look at any of her other developments. Also, talk to any player who was actually in any of the areas she has cannabalised before she came, and see if you can find ONE that appreciates the terraforming she has done. I can't quote her IMs here. You may not be aware of my other history with Anshe, when she bought up a good chunk of Stanford and the raised the land around the Carnival to block it from view, which she gladly told me she was intentionally doing because my build was so ugly. ALL I asked from her was that she allow the buyer of the land to dictate how it was going to be terraformed. I think that I posed the plea in the nicest, most diplomatic way possible. She even agreed, but then said that that meant jack squat to her. She has done this over and over, but sadly, at this point, I think there is nothing that can be done to stop her. So, all I can do is concentrate on my on build and continue working on it, not because she has advised me of its hideousness, but because several people have complimented me on what I'm working on so far and say that they look forward to what is to come. The really biting thing is she will honestly be absolutely certain that any work I do on my build is because of the great advice she gave me. |
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Jack Digeridoo
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10-16-2004 15:20
Jack this one incident is not terribly important. It is a on going series of actions taking by Anshe to maximize her profits at any cost to others. Having said that I am sure someone has pics. Anshe deals in land, that's what's fun for her. You've never had a neighbour that raises the land or builds right up to the edge of your property line, or changes the feel of the area around you? If it was a permanent resident buying the land, they'd make changes as well, but the changes they make would be more signifigant and you'd could easily have the same argument. But since Anshe has an empire, you see her everywhere. She's not doing anything beyond what a homeowner would be doing. She's just doing it more often. So if you have screen shots of all these incidents then post them please. _____________________
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
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10-16-2004 15:28
The thing is Jack,
I can work with and try to compromise with a homeowner. . . I can also be more forgiving to someone who is actually contributing to SL by Building something. I can't have the same kind of recourse with Anshe. I specifically was chased out of Stanford by her actions. You can imagine how disheartening it was to see her once again buy the land next to me. I tried to reason with her and to compromise, even offering my services to help with the land. Her response to me was F*!$ off, I'm gonna do what I want, regardless of what you ask, and if you truly wanted to make this area better, you would work on your ugly ass build. |
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Darko Cellardoor
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10-16-2004 15:33
Anshe deals in land, that's what's fun for her. You've never had a neighbour that raises the land or builds right up to the edge of your property line, or changes the feel of the area around you? If it was a permanent resident buying the land, they'd make changes as well, but the changes they make would be more signifigant and you'd could easily have the same argument. But since Anshe has an empire, you see her everywhere. She's not doing anything beyond what a homeowner would be doing. She's just doing it more often. So if you have screen shots of all these incidents then post them please. Dude come on. Of course I would not have the same problem when a permanent resident does this. The fact is the permanent resident has another level of interest in the sim. Also the permanent resident has more reason to resolve the problem though healthy discourse. Why should Anshe care? Sshe does not live in the sim? That is a silly argument bro. What service is Anshe providing by buying land as terra-formed and released by the Lindens then fucking it up, parceling it up and insulting permanent residents who live in the sim by suggesting their builds hurt her land value. Come on dude tell me you can look at this objectively. That is really fucked up and I see no argument to suggest that this is any way good for our community. Looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree again my weed loving brother. ![]() _____________________
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Ironchef Cook
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10-16-2004 15:41
Since everything I want to say will get me suspended, I'll just say this.
I really hope one day LL will use this clause on Anshe: 7.1 Termination. Linden has the right at any time for any reason or no reason to suspend or terminate your Account, terminate this Agreement, and/or refuse any and all current or future use of the Service without notice to you. |
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-16-2004 15:43
I think all these people who are complaining about Anshe are just Alts of one account.
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Jack Digeridoo
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10-16-2004 15:46
Why should Anshe care? Sshe does not live in the sim? That is a silly argument bro. I'm saying she does live there. She lives in a bunch of sims. She has an empire. And she's a part of the community, she's _trying_ to have fun. I hope LL does help, by letting us buy 1/2 private sims. I don't really need a full sim, but I would love 1/2 a private sim. I'm they could find someone else to fill in the other 1/2 pretty fast. What service is Anshe providing by buying land as terra-formed and released by the Lindens then messing it up, parceling it up and insulting permanent residents who live in the sim by suggesting their builds hurt her land value. Come on dude tell me you can look at this objectively. That is really bad and I see no argument to suggest that this is any way good for our community. Well again, I don't think the land is that messed up, I couldn't understand what was destroyed. I've seen some people buy land and dig giant holes or build huge mountains just to grief the person next door. Anshe is not doing that at all. _____________________
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
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10-16-2004 15:46
brilliant blaze!
You got me. I use 48 computer setups all running at once so that I can be inworld at multiple places at the same time. You win the prize for being the first to work it out! Here's your cookie ![]() |
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Ironchef Cook
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10-16-2004 15:51
Well again, I don't think the land is that messed up, I couldn't understand what was destroyed. I've seen some people buy land and dig giant holes or build huge mountains just to grief the person next door. Anshe is not doing that at all. You must not have seen Stanford when the same old crap was going on. |
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Oneironaut Escher
Tokin White Guy
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10-16-2004 15:53
Actually Jack, by her on admission, she specifically mutilated the land next to my previous build to grief me, and it worked, I'm no longer in Stanford.
She has also, on more than one occasion, done the exact same thing to others to drive them out of an area. One of the issues with a "game" like SL, is some people actually ARE roleplaying - they may just be role playing pure evil with no regard for others. And yes, she offered up the owning land and living in the sims theory. However, all of her land is marked for sale. . . she has no intention of sticking around. I would be equally pissed if someone bought land specifically to terraform/grief me and then put said land up for sale. If someone wants to be my long term neighbor, I welcome them with open arms. Have I done something to offend you Jack? I hope not I really like you Bud, and love what you bring to the game.Is there a reason you haven't responded to any of my posts? I might just be paranoid, which would be nice if it were for the reasons you might assume ![]() But sadly, that is not the case and has not been for quite a while. Maybe that's the true cause of all this ![]() |
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Surreal Farber
Cat Herder
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10-16-2004 15:55
ummm hopping on to the land baron thing for a mo...
Billy Grace is a land baron, or he used to be one.. and I found him to be cool, helpful guy. He bent over backwards to help Ferran and I put together a bunch of parcels in Riiki so we could have our current block. Surreal |