A Plea to Anshe Chung

First off, I want to say, this is being offered with the best possible intentions.

Anshe, I like you personally, and while I may disagree with some of your business practices sometimes, I appreciate that in the light of fairly constant attacks, you tend to remain civil.

Now, that being said, to the matter at hand.

As people may or may not know, I moved the Cannabis Carnival out of Stanford to Kaminari. I'm just now getting the new Carnival setup.

You may or may not remember that back in Stanford, there was an issue with the Carnival. Anshe, when you bought land near it, you purposefully raised that land to block out the carnival because "people in a residential area wouldn't want to see my game build". This started a chain reaction in the area of people just horribly mutilating the landscape - a big part of why I finally ended up moving out of Stanford, despite my year long history there.

So, I'm in Kaminari, and recently, a new sim has sprung up next door, across the river. The land over there is beautiful in all those sims.

I'm begging you Anshe, please don't alter that land. It's gorgeous as it is, and please, let people who move in decide what they want to do with the land. As you'll notice on my land on the beach, I have left the land unaltered, opting to build a Boardwalk to make the area flat rather than change the land. If you want, I could build some platforms on the land you have to show potential buyers how they could make an easy to build on flat space without drastically altering the land.

Now, why am I doing this in a public forum? Well, last time, IMs didn't go so well. Also Anshe, like it or not, you are a very public figure. As such, I wanted there to be a public record of this very simple and straightforward request.

And finally, to anyone thinking of considering buying that land - please note that it is next to a place called the Cannabis Carnival. The Carnival is a cannabis themed area with games and such meant to promote information about the legalisation movement. I have yet to move the Bongcoaster from my previous place in Stanford, but I will be doing that soon. If you're unaware of what this is, it's a very large bong that has a rollercoaster that starts in its smoke spiral. The Carnival has been covered in New World Notes, look for an archived article called "Riding Out the Debate".

I am not a bad neighbor, but I definitely have no intention of changing my building intentions.

Actually, thinking of it now. . . if any of you fellow pot enthusiasts out there are looking for land, then please consider the land across from my carnival in Crescent. Perhaps you might be considering a cannabis themed building, and mayhaps we could build a bridge between our two properties or something. Anshe knows the land market well and tends to price her spots fairly.

Anyway, Anshe, as I tried to indicate, this is in no way a personal attack, or anything like that. I feel that land dealings should be fairly transparent, and the information relatively public, as it is in the real world.

Thanks for reading!

You might want to put up GIANT SIGNS on the edge of your parcel facing the land up for sale explaining the content of your land in just the same way you did here, and respectfully asking that if they're not comfortable with the content that they consider other land instead.

Well, if they were hallucinogenic giant signs it'd be okay.

You may wish to consider reading the forum guidelines before posting:

I specifically explained why I wasn't doing it in IM, and the post was meant for the community. I also was writing to perspective buyers of the land. Am I supposed to psychically know who these people are and address them in IMs as well?

Yes, some of it was To Anshe Chung, but it was a public statement to her.

Yes!

blaze, don't you understand that you can not use social coercion if you don' t make bilateral issues public?

Absolutely, or someone could report it.

I don't see what Oneironaut is doing wrong :/ why are some people flaming. I have seen the 'land raising' technique used in several other sims. I rebuilt a friends shop about 10 meters off the ground just because Anshe's land next door was raised up so much.

So to conclude, I am agreeing with Oneironaut and also plea to Anshe not to continually modify large pieces of land to be sold off in smaller plots which can't be changed back to the original land shape.

I ran into a newbie last week. They were having problems and asked for help.

It seems that there is a script out there that some individuals are using that is illegal and raises the new land higher and lower than the -4/+4 settings on the new sims.

After purchasing her land, excited as a newbie could be, she decided to landscape just a bit to take out some bumps.

This land had been raised using the illegal script. Just by touching the land, it fell back to it's original settings, leaving one of the infamous "sheer walls" from the old landscaping horrors from beta.

Now her land is lower than the surrounding land, has this sheer wall, and she doesn't know what to do. A Linden was called, they offered to purchase the land from her, but no one could re-raise the land to match the now existing landscape. Because she was "near" friends, she decided to keep the land and not sell it.

I don't know who has this illegal script, but it should be found and deleted from the system.

For the record, I have IMed Anshe, still waiting on a response.

And I still contend that preservation of the beauty of the land of SL is a matter of public interest.

Also, Anshe has been unfairly attacked on more than one occasion in response to her business practices. After being attacked, she has expressed that had she known the community's wishes on the matter, she would have abided by them. Specifically, in my case, she apologised for blocking view of my land, and said that had she known what the community's response to doing that would have been, she would have acted differently.

I believe her, and think this will give her an opportunity to publicly show the naysayers that they should too.

One, go visit Crescent. It's been raised at least 4 meters or more, giving a "canal" effect to the land in front of a beautiful build in a neighboring sim.

Even after being asked not to raise the land. Even after the land was purchased from her.

Good luck.

Ahh, I hadn't noticed that Unfortunately, I hadn't brought up the issue soon enough to save that land. . .

I'm a hermit, and had been mostly referring to the land across the river from me that is visible from my plot - it's still waiting to be claimed from Governor Linden by Anshe. On a side note, how long can one leave land in that state?

I'm certain that Anshe will try and do the right thing in regards to the land across from me now having knowledge of the community's wishes.

Also, my offer still stands to help build platforms and such to illustrate how to make a flat surface without tearing up the natural beauty.

This is an offer of a free service, btw.

crescent is a +- 10 m sim.

Really Jau?

Seriously, I'm asking and not disputing. . .

I thought that ALL of the new sims were limited to the 4 meter thing. Crescent is definitely on e of the new sims. It popped up just recently.

I think the sim on the far side of it is one of the older sims and allows for whatever land alteration. . .

but Crescent is definitely one of the new sims.

Unless they are making new sims that are exceptions to the +/- 4 meter rule?

To answer this question start reading here and keep reading till your question is answered.

Yes, Crescent is new, and I'd assume Jau is correct as she won at least one auction there. The latest batch of new Sims seem to have had some terraforming problems anyway - I know Wingo was brought on line, and several First Land lots and auction lots were sold before someone asked Live Help why they couldn't terraform it at all. Char responded, and got terraforming turned on for them within a few moments - but I'm not sure what limits it has now.

Ahh, so it was intended to be a +/- 4 meter sim as all the new ones are supposed to be, but, due to whatever cosmic forces, it is mistakenly a much more mutalatable, erm, terraformable sim?

Okay, thanks Lisse

Okay, JUST NOW, as I sat watching, the land raised before my eyes.

I give up.

Oh, wait, it reverted. . .

Okay, I'm sorry, I've been taught a lesson.

I've been told that flattening the land makes it more beautiful. . .

and also given the advice that if I would work on my build it will make the area more beautiful as my build is quite ugly as is.

Adding platforms and leaving the land as is makes it horribly ugly.

The people buying the land have no idea how to properly terraform it, and can't make their own decisions about ultimate beauty, utility.

I'm so very close to tearing down my build as I feel horrible that it is lowering the local land value.

I can't move again. . . I'm sorry that I have offended people with my build.

sigh*

One, you sound sad and frustrated.

I hate to say it, but you really only have a couple of options in a world without zoning rules. Buy as much land in a chunk as you can; get friends and like-minded folks to buy next to you; or ignore the neighbors. Unfortunately, the last option is the one that lots of people are stuck with.

I admire your willingness to try and appeal to a sense of community in others, however, I think you are screaming into an empty hole. Some people believe in community, contribute to it, and will alter their plans so that more than just they benefit. Others are interested solely in what they can get out. Both kinds of people are known by their reputations.

I hope you will continue to work on your build. I haven't had a chance to check it out since you moved, but I liked the former one a lot. If anyone bitches about your build, remind them that there are much scarier things that can be built. My friend jovino did a lovely hazardous waste incinorator in Aqua once in response to harassment. And a dumpster, complete wih flies. Need to borrow some rats?

You can't do much about the fucktards, but don't let them wear you down.

Surreal

Well, sorry, but this just didn't work out. I suggested to Oneironaut that BOTH of us contribute to the scenery, including him working on the built on his own land, but he snapped

As it stands, Oneiro, you consider the way I prepare my land for sale unappealing, while I consider what you do on your land unappealing. This is perfectly fine and we can agree to differ. I just wish, Oneiro, you wouldn't take it as insult when I tell you in private how I perceive your artwork. Especially after you critisize my landscaping art in public.

In any case, I terraformed the land in Cresent the way I planned to. I think it is decent, practical and newbie friendly. Instead of rough, uneven terrain you find nice flat terrasses to build homes on and lush green slopes to the sea and the channel shaped Linden land on the side. As I often do, I added some tropical trees to add to the natural beauty of the place, until somebody buys and decided what to do with the land.

I invite everybody to take a look him/herself in Crescent (170, 210). I also recommend you visit Oneiro's place. His games are fun and definitely worth to check out

Its really impossible to dictate what others do with the land they own. So, with that in mind, do what you want to do with your land. Its up to you if you are a good neighbor in the process. Many people will work together, or at least be friendly about being neighbors. But, some are pretty stubborn and only have themselves in mind, thats life I guess. Its tough, I know, but try not to worry about your neighbors and do what makes you happy.

Personally, I would have never bought my plot of land if it was flattened or smoothed out. The unique terrain, with a cove and little mountaintop, is what attracted me to it in the first place. Just about anyone can have a flat plot of land, I have something a little unique.