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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-15-2005 09:44
Hmmmm, how about 'Fuck You Hedonists", or "FIC" are they not names/labels (ridiculous as they are). Seriously though Prok I have never seen you take any constructive, non-combative criticism well. Devlin meant you absolutely no harm whatsoever and you blasted him. Sad.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-15-2005 09:46
From: someone
Prok called me an asswipe!
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Prokofy Neva giving me the forum smackdown:
"I'm honest and thoughtful too, asswipe."


Um, the contest here is about finding UNPROVOKED or VICIOUS attacks, panda, but nice try.

"Asswipe" is just a funny term, especially when juxtaposed in this laughter-inducing sharp contrast of someone saying, on the one hand, that they are "honest and thoughtful" but then immediately using a vulgar and jargonistic term that suggests that they are just a hick after all LOL.

Honestly, do you people have no sense of humour or satire?

And it's not vicious and in this case it was definitely provoked. Sorry to disappoint. And your recurrent use of it in your siggy amply suggests that you find it hilarious, and your recurrent use of it to try to humiliate me in the forums is ample evidence that I'm not the vicious one, but you are :D
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
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04-15-2005 09:52
Ok..ok..a little selection from just one thread:

From: someone
There are all too many heedless, hedonistic, and hectoring 20-somethings with really iffy senses of morality, no common sense or common courtesy, and a really, really spotty exposure to Western Civ.


and

From: someone
Excuse me, idiots, but I *know* that Pathfinder's post is just a generic post, I *got it* duh that he is dealing with the generic issues, not just my little situation, but I found it VERY USEFUL to go through his thinking step by step and APPLY IT TO MYSELF VISIBLY because his thinking on this, like your-all's, is just sparked by the incident of Nolan publishing my RL information -- MY RL information not YOURS.


or...

From: someone
I think saying "idiots" to people continually second-guessing and undemining me on this very clear-cut story is absolutely the right thing to do.


and finally..

From: someone
I dont understand why someone like Buster Peel who is intelligent can say "the force went out" and "the sympathy dried up" merely because I called people couldn't see the obvious"idiots"? But they ARE idiots.


Whew..now Im exhausted. Medic! I need some rum here!

Did I earn a nickel mister? ;)
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David Lamoreaux

Owner - Perilous Pleasures and Extreme Erotica Gallery
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
04-15-2005 09:54
I think calling Panda an asswipe is nothing short of a hate crime, and I want the Lindens to look into this IMMEDIATELY!
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Aimee Weber
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Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
04-15-2005 09:55


Hello,

Allow me to introduce myself. I am Amy Weebler. I am sometimes confused with the beloved Aimee Weber, but make no mistake, I am NOT her alt.

I would like to take this opportunity to agree 100% with Aimee about "asswipe" being a hate crime. The Lindens should indeed look into this and suspend anybody involved.

The lindens should also look into people using multiple alts to create the appearance of allies in a forum brawl.

Yours Truly,
Amy Weaver (..or whatever the blast I said my name was)
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
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Posts: 2,941
04-15-2005 09:59
From: Aimee Weber


Hello,

Allow me to introduce myself. I am Amy Weebler. I am sometimes confused with the beloved Aimee Weber, but make no mistake, I am NOT her alt.

I would like to take this opportunity to agree 100% with Aimee about "asswipe" being a hate crime. The Lindens should indeed look into this and suspend anybody involved.

The lindens should also look into people using multiple alts to create the appearance of allies in a forum brawl.

Yours Truly,
Amy Weaver (..or whatever the blast I said my name was)


Welcome to Second Life Aimee Weebler! Hope you like it here. Come to my club and be an escort. We pay L$10 per hour which is BIG money in SL. You can also stay at my place, but you have to entertain my friends. I'll buy you clothes and stuff. Here..have some of this stuff, cause I'm generous with my girls. *hands you a bunch of freebies and items that the permissions got screwed up on*
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David Lamoreaux

Owner - Perilous Pleasures and Extreme Erotica Gallery
pandastrong Fairplay
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Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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04-15-2005 10:00
From: Prokofy Neva
Um, the contest here is about finding UNPROVOKED or VICIOUS attacks, panda, but nice try.

"Asswipe" is just a funny term, especially when juxtaposed in this laughter-inducing sharp contrast of someone saying, on the one hand, that they are "honest and thoughtful" but then immediately using a vulgar and jargonistic term that suggests that they are just a hick after all LOL.

Honestly, do you people have no sense of humour or satire?

And it's not vicious and in this case it was definitely provoked. Sorry to disappoint. And your recurrent use of it in your siggy amply suggests that you find it hilarious, and your recurrent use of it to try to humiliate me in the forums is ample evidence that I'm not the vicious one, but you are :D


Haha, you are amazing. I do appreciate the humor, and that is why I posted it here. I wasn't "trying" anything. Have you noticed that my last 20 or so posts on the forums have been in no way serious? Ok, maybe 20 was an undershoot. :D

If you can't be bothered to look them up, just ask the voices in your head. Not everyone is out to get you. I use the signature BECAUSE it is hilarious juxtaposing the "thoughtful and honest" with "asswipe".

Fucking take a break from your paranoid delusions already. It is amusing to read, but also disconcerting to see you swinging at windmills all day long on the forums.

I really mean it though, and I am taking a break from being my usual vicious self (grrrr!) to show genuine concern, asswipe. ;)
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David Valentino
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04-15-2005 10:01
From: pandastrong Fairplay
Prok called me an asswipe!



Isn't that also revealing RL information about you? ;)
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David Lamoreaux

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Buster Peel
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04-15-2005 10:13
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Hmmmm, how about 'Fuck You Hedonists", or "FIC" are they not names/labels (ridiculous as they are). Seriously though Prok I have never seen you take any constructive, non-combative criticism well. Devlin meant you absolutely no harm whatsoever and you blasted him. Sad.

Good point there, "FIC" is a not-very-nice label.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fetid

I've never seen anyone so effectively destroy their own credibility by misreading people and responding at length to sentiments that might not even be there. Just because some people are out to get you, that doesn't mean that EVERYONE is out to get you.

Greatness could never be achieved without the ability to endure criticism. Lashing out at every hint of negative light is a good way to achieve, well, smallness.

Buster
Nala Galatea
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Join date: 12 Nov 2003
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04-15-2005 10:23
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
04-15-2005 10:23
From: David Valentino
Welcome to Second Life Aimee Weebler! Hope you like it here. Come to my club and be an escort. We pay L$10 per hour which is BIG money in SL. You can also stay at my place, but you have to entertain my friends. I'll buy you clothes and stuff. Here..have some of this stuff, cause I'm generous with my girls. *hands you a bunch of freebies and items that the permissions got screwed up on*



Thank you for your kind offer Mister David Valentino. I will be there promply with my milkshake that brings the boys into the yard.

Sincerely,
Amy Wheabor
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Azazel Czukor
Deep-fried & sanctified
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 417
04-15-2005 11:01



That's the funniest thing I've seen for at least, like, 2 days.

*runs off to go stick moustaches on every photo I can find*
Lecktor Hannibal
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04-15-2005 11:04
From: Aimee Weber

Thank you for your kind offer Mister David Valentino. I will be there promply with my milkshake that brings the boys into the yard.

Sincerely,
Amy Wheabor

*watches Darko start dancing and singing*
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Arbel Vogel
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04-15-2005 11:04
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Eboni Khan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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04-15-2005 11:05
This is just unfuckingbelievable that Prokofy, the #1 antagonistic hypocritical asshat of Second Life is still in forums whining for sympathy over a self created situation. Ohh wait, this happens everyday. I thought Prokofy was quitting. :confused:
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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
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04-15-2005 11:05
From: Prokofy Neva
Weedy, you are what is wrong with this game.


This is a personal attack. Prokofy, incapable of understanding the difference between discussion and attack.

Of course, say something critical of Prokofy, that gives hime the right to say racist, sexist and harmful things, catagorizing you and your friends into an odious conspiracy.

Then Prokofy comes back and says he never attacks anyone ever. LIES. I don't accept your lies or attacks for one second.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-15-2005 11:22
From: someone
Originally Posted by Prokofy Neva
Weedy, you are what is wrong with this game.



This is a personal attack. Prokofy, incapable of understanding the difference between discussion and attack.

Of course, say something critical of Prokofy, that gives hime the right to say racist, sexist and harmful things, catagorizing you and your friends into an odious conspiracy.

Then Prokofy comes back and says he never attacks anyone ever. LIES. I don't accept your lies or attacks for one second.


Oh, OK, Weedy, I'm sorry. I wouldn't want you to feel you've been personally attacked. So let me rephrase that.

"Weedy, such an attitude of spiteful malice and deliberate misrepresentation of what others post and the zealous desire to set them straight is what is wrong with this game."

Better? We like to separate the sin from the sinner, don't we lol?

Geez. Racist? Sexist? AND harmful? See, Weedy, that's what I mean by spiteful malice and deliberate misrepresentation. There's nothing I've said that is racist or sexist or harmful. Could you troll up the examples please, hon?

P.S. No alts in this thread, and no use of alts in forum brawls.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-15-2005 11:26
From: someone
This is just unfuckingbelievable that Prokofy, the #1 antagonistic hypocritical asshat of Second Life is still in forums whining for sympathy over a self created situation. Ohh wait, this happens everyday. I thought Prokofy was quitting.


This is not a self-created situation, and your persistence in calling that shows that is wrong with this game -- in ability of many players to understand simple, clear-cut TOS instructions.

I'm not whining for sympathy, but just fending off silly cartoons and cartons of Velveta cheese at this point, so honestly, get a grip.

Um, I'm not quitting? That was just Ulrika et. al.'s spiteful way of implying that I'd be leaving if I did something like cut a Linden card. They think you could ever perform such a symbolic act in their medieval guild village.

Eboni? I saw what the land was for sale at, before you got it. I live there, and have for months, remember? I know because it was offered to me to buy, too. I watch the prices on the land around me where I live or work. So I'm sorry if I seem less than credulous at your remarks. If I'm all wet, well, sue me. I'm sorry if your price-gouging was misrepresented. Since you've been compensated handsomely for your bid to get into, then leave, this neighbourhood, given my purchase, could you please move on?
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Weedy Herbst
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04-15-2005 11:29
Insincere apology, not accepted. In fact another complaint filed against you.

Truth is Prok, you are a griever. The worst kind of griever. Your contempt for others is rampant in these forums with your attacks, lies and disdain for others who criticize you.

You seem to think you have a right to harrass or attack anyone of your choosing.

To use your terms, I will continue to push back against your slander and defamation until you are banned permanently. Understand griever?
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Weedy Herbst
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04-15-2005 11:31
From: Prokofy Neva
There's nothing I've said that is racist or sexist or harmful. Could you troll up the examples please, hon?


Sexist in the same breath, yet another example of your inability to hear yourself.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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04-15-2005 11:33
From: Prokofy Neva
There's nothing I've said that is sexist or harmful.


Hmm... so tempting.. should I? nah. Not worth it.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-15-2005 11:46
Sure, Ingrid, go for it, if you *really, sincerely* felt that a flippant remark on the forums you'd say in the game and accept in the game is *really* some systematic sign of sexism, hhm?

But Weedy is not going to be able to pull a charge of "sexism" out of the use of "hon".

That is so hilarious I don't even know where to begin! That means there must be 10 million sexist offenses in SL per night, hon, because that's like a non-stop usage in this game, used with total abandon by most of the population LL. If I use it to be ironic, that doesn't make me a sexist when they aren't lol?

As for "pushing back against your griefing until your banned?" Where do you find a quote like that? There isn't one. And if someone is violating the TOS, they get banned, but not because I pushed on them, because the Lindens made a determination.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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04-15-2005 11:49
From: Prokofy Neva
Sure, Ingrid, go for it, if you *really, sincerely* felt that a flippant remark on the forums you'd say in the game and accept in the game is *really* some systematic sign of sexism, hhm?
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If you're using the same kind of remarks in game, I'm surprised no one has reported you for it yet.
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Eboni Khan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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04-15-2005 12:15
From: Prokofy Neva
This is not a self-created situation, and your persistence in calling that shows that is wrong with this game -- in ability of many players to understand simple, clear-cut TOS instructions.

I'm not whining for sympathy, but just fending off silly cartoons and cartons of Velveta cheese at this point, so honestly, get a grip.

Um, I'm not quitting? That was just Ulrika et. al.'s spiteful way of implying that I'd be leaving if I did something like cut a Linden card. They think you could ever perform such a symbolic act in their medieval guild village.

Eboni? I saw what the land was for sale at, before you got it. I live there, and have for months, remember? I know because it was offered to me to buy, too. I watch the prices on the land around me where I live or work. So I'm sorry if I seem less than credulous at your remarks. If I'm all wet, well, sue me. I'm sorry if your price-gouging was misrepresented. Since you've been compensated handsomely for your bid to get into, then leave, this neighbourhood, given my purchase, could you please move on?


It is a completely self created situation in the case of Prokofy Neva, you started the bullshit post, it didnt go your way and here you are still bitching. The violation of the TOS is a serious matter. You are just not the poster child for it because your nasty personality, and constant griefing of other members makes it impossible for people to garner sympathy for you. I wouldnt give a damn if someone posted your DNA and SSN, you deserve whatever you get in this world you bring it on yourself. And now its coming down on you in a shit storm.


And Prokofy, now you have just lied yet again. The land was NEVER listed for sale. It was makred for sale (the 2 plots) in both cases for less than 30 seconds. The sellers listed it and I purchased it immediately both times. Do you have problems keeping track of reality due to your numerous alts? And you still refuse to believe I sold the land for what I paid for it when I have told you repeatedly. When you stop harassing me, I will let it die, but until then. And you still have not apologized for insulting my name. So whatever.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-15-2005 13:23
From: someone
It is a completely self created situation in the case of Prokofy Neva, you started the bullshit post, it didnt go your way and here you are still bitching. The violation of the TOS is a serious matter. You are just not the poster child for it because your nasty personality, and constant griefing of other members makes it impossible for people to garner sympathy for you. I wouldnt give a damn if someone posted your DNA and SSN, you deserve whatever you get in this world you bring it on yourself. And now its coming down on you in a shit storm.


And Prokofy, now you have just lied yet again. The land was NEVER listed for sale. It was makred for sale (the 2 plots) in both cases for less than 30 seconds. The sellers listed it and I purchased it immediately both times. Do you have problems keeping track of reality due to your numerous alts? And you still refuse to believe I sold the land for what I paid for it when I have told you repeatedly. When you stop harassing me, I will let it die, but until then. And you still have not apologized for insulting my name. So whatever.


1. It's not bullshit, but a serious matter, and one still in investigation, and one in which people still think that with impunity, they can undermine its importance by raising their forum disagreements with me -- as you are doing now.

2. People who benefit from the protection of civil rights or things like a TOS in a game are never really the poster children you'd like them to be, but when you need that protection yourself some day, you'll appreciate that it was defended even for non-Jerry's kids.

3. You've just explained again what's wrong with this game. There are too many people that think that the TOS doesn't apply to yourself, if you hate someone, or don't like what they post. There are too many people that can sanction TOS violations if it can be used as a tool of revenge against someone they don't like. It's a horrible climate of impunity and rampant entitlement. It's something I fight really hard against, and rightly so.

4. I saw that land for sale, and for a lot longer than 30 seconds. And I know what the owners wanted to get for it, and what they were willing to take because they asked me to buy it too. Did they suddenly, I dunno, double the price for you? I hardly think so. So I know the value of those properties. That's why I can persist in telling you what I know, which isn't "a lie" but the truth as I see it as it was presented to me by the same people you dealt with. That's why your entire rampage and tantrum here about this just doesn't hold water for me and never will. That's why your constant reiterations and fake claims of harassment won't wash, because I'm not harassing you, I'm defending myself against your allegations of lies, because I have more information than you seem to give me credit for.

5. If it turns out those owners want to step up now and say, "You know, we took a lot more from Eboni than we were going to take from you, and we are standing silently by now and letting her charge that or even more of you because....we want you to sell something we want that you won't sell." Could it be that kind of situation?

6. If my playful puns of your name in an obscure other language disturbed you so much, after your egregious behaviour they seemed appropriate, um, why did you put them on your forum icon LOL? Honestly!

Eboni, because of your behavior in the game, and then later on the forums, I'm unlikely to be doing business with you, as far as I can tell. I'm not going to buy land from you. I'm not going to sell land to you knowingly, i.e. in a deal or swap. If someone asks me about you, I'm going to say, don't buy or sell land to that person. That is my right in this game. It's the freedom that comes with the TOS in fact. And my expression of that opinion is not harassment or blackmail, it's just my personal choice in a game where you get to buy and sell land, either with a price tag on it or not. You can obviously do the same thing!

You have sold land to me at an exhorbitant cost. Could you just be happy with the sale and move on? The message is clear. You're not going to be able to try THAT again, at least not on me.
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