Public Apology

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This is the best you can do? After all that time and effort I took on that post?

Thanks ever so much.

coco

I'm just joking. I don't have any transcripts from Nolan. Mine are from other sources whose identity would be revealed if shared them. To be honest, there's nothing juicy on them anyways.

Usually, when someone approaches me with controversial topics, I always speak from the beginning as if I'll be quoted and then give them permission to share the transcripts if they like at the end. I treat it like an interview.

~Ulrika~

Here's a free tip for you: nothing longer than a couple of paragraphs is ever actually read in the forums. I caught the first few sentences, one in the middle, and another at the end.

~Ulrika~

Well, here's a free tip for you: When you don't read what I have to say, you're the poorer for it.

coco

A small note, before returning to lurk-mode:

Let's say that someone in SL is an RL celeberty.

RL celeberties tend to have their public info posted all over the internet in very public places...sometime they're directly responsable for it being posted.

Does this fact lessen their right, under the ToS, to not have their RL identity revealed? No.

If it's personal info that's not publicly posted IN WORLD or that the person in question has chosen not to make said info publicly known through word-of-mouth (telling someone in confidance doesn't count), it shouldn't be shared. "Publicly avalible by searching the internet" or "publicly avalible by digging through someone's blog" is not "public info" in Second Life when it comes to personal info.

/embraces poverty

It's harrassment. No exceptions. You have no right to harrass, but yet you always do. If a sim is needlessly lagged, you must file ARs, not harrass.

If a build is not up to your taste, you cannot harrass. Yet you do that regularly

You mouth off about others harrassing you though. Even when they aren't.

Hyprokofy, in the first degree.

Well, here's another free tip for you: wet cornstarch is a non-Newtonian fluid.

~Ulrika~

And ignorance.

coco

OK, and here's another free tip for you! (Hey, this is fun!)

A thought which went through my head after the difficulty of writing that long post, and also because of something my daughter said a couple of days ago, and then again after reading the replies to my post, a nice old saying: "Above all, to thine own self be true."

Sometimes that's hard in here, but I try.

coco

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Disclosure

Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Lives. Sharing personal information about a fellow Resident --including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, and real-world location beyond what is provided by the Resident in the First Life page of their Resident profile is a violation of that Resident's privacy. Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life and on the Second Life Forums.

No, it's not, because no Linden has ever characterized it as such.

I file ARs for heedlessly lagged sims to 37, sure do, AND I negrate AND I encourage others to negrate. That's what negrating is for! To express one's opinion of another's poor behavior in a reptuation-based game.

It's not harassment to offer a person a swap, a sale, a compromise, as was done in these three disputes (hard to imagine there were only 3 disputes out of 20 sims, eh? But there it is).

When a building lags a sim with all kinds of scripts, lights, etc. when it blocks actual access to one's property, when it totally looms over the horizon and intrudes into every one's view, then I feel it is right and proper to negrate its creator and its owner and the lot owner (if the creator is relevant -- often, they are innocent victim of the owner's misuse of their building).

This isn't about taste. It's about griefing.

Weedy, I'd like to think you're a person of reasonable intelligence, living in a country where I, too, was educated (Nolan: take that down, quick!)

I'm confident that if you were present during these in-world disputes, you'd see the incredible juvenile behaviour of the fuck-you hedonists, the kind of people who harass YOU in the game. You'd readily see that these buildings aren't taste issues, but harassment and griefer issues. You'd have no problem with the visual aids provided to you of giant, pulsating, spinning, etc. boxes with oodles of scripts and lights all over them.
You reputedly have a great build in Tharu, often cited as proof of your good character, so you're surely going to "get it" when you see building disputes that aren't about taste, like as to texture or shape or style, but about sim performance and actual physical entry to one's property blocked off by large looming tower-type buildings.

I've been in 3 of these disputes personally, out of hundreds of properties. And anybody who saw the building in question had absolutely no problem in understanding that these were not "taste" issues once they saw the specifics of the situation.

You recurring need to recast these falsely as "taste" issues may have something to do with another player who poisoned you about me long ago (the correlation between the onset of your poison-pen posts against me in the water saga and the time you were hanging out with that person isn't lost on me).

So all I can say is, let it go. You can't always be right. In fact, this time, you're wrong. These disputes aren't about taste, and my handling of them isn't "harassment" because if it were, I wouldn't be talking to you right now.

I just edited a few posts in this thread where people were discussing the earlier posting of private RL info about a resident. I also deleted any quotes I found of it.

Do not post things like this again. If it is not in someone's First Life profile, or linked from that profile, it is private.

Any subsequent posting of ANY personal information about ANYONE that isn't explicitly listed in the First Life profile will result in formal warnings and suspensions.

I hope I have made myself *crystal* clear about this. Thank you.

I wasn't giving out personal information. I was guessing what personal information was from what Prokofy said himself. I never saw the post Nolan made.

Ok, is this what the TOS says?

(iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable unless,building disputes that aren't about taste, like as to texture or shape or style, but about sim performance and actual physical entry to one's property blocked off by large looming tower-type buildings and my handling of them isn't "harassment"

The second word is ANY. No exceptions. Period.

You've really lost it, Weedy. Are you like the Red Queen? A word means something because you say it does?

I can't possibly imagine that any expression of concern to another player about their lagging a sim to 37, blocking egress from a property with a giant build, or hogging the horizon could in any way be determined by the Lindens, even at their sole discretion, to be harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obsene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy,k hateful, racially, ethnically or othewise objectionable.

Huh?

You have really lost it.

I'm bolstered in my confidence that nothing expressed by me on the forums or in the game about sims lagged to 37, buildings blocking egress, and towers hulking over the horizon is in any way, shape, or form any of those things you said because....


.....I have never been banned from the forums for what I write and I have never been banned from the game for any commentary on any building whatsoever.

That really shows a fault in LL's policy more than it does your "good behavior."

Pathfinder has indeed made himself *crystal* clear about this, for which I'm grateful. It will help make the forum jackals and hyenas and junk-yard dogs to slink away. Some of them IM'ing me in the game and trying to harangue me for information now have an important signal that they can't do that.

I just want to say that I have had a chance to exchange correspondence now with Pathfinder and I see now that some of the reason for a seeming lack of concern merely had to do with time zone differences, or the times when people came on shifts in LL, and the times when people could just put all this information together and see what's what.

And I now see that the "wrist-slap" of the informal warning was made when not all the relevant information was in front of the relevant people. I'm confident now that they are taking this matter seriously, that they are properly investigating it, and that they are taking appropriate action. As usual when they take action on such cases, they aren't going to tell you what they are doing, or whom they are contacting or whatever, but in this game, you just have to trust that process and hope for the best, even if it doesn't always have a visible manifestation.

I made the symbolic gesture of returning the bear precisely because Pathfinder's bear means a lot to me. I had it in a place of honour in my favorite place in SL in Sutherland Dam. I had it there because Pathfinder, for me, was the first sign of intelligent life meaningful to me in this game from the management, precisely because he brought a certain sensibility that has been lacking for me in this game, i.e. his Kerouac quotes, his visit to Harvard lectures and his book reading lists (the other many signs of intelligent life from the management have just been of different intelligences that don't mean something for me). And his actions to clean up the forums and their negativity and impunity are ones that I respect.

I now see that it was hasty on my part to make such a symbolic gesture but I thought action on my part was needed swiftly when I saw that a stalker was getting a wrist-slap and continuing to attack me, hiding behind that sense of impunity.

I look forward to the time when I can meet Pathfinder in the game and exchange calling cards and bears with him.

I have rarly seen, in second life, a person with the commen sence and maturity to admit when he is wrong and say the simplest word there is to say, "Sorry"

I did not even know there was such a person in this game. I have met alot of assholes and people who think they know it all in SL.

Very nicly done!

PM Me in the game, I have a mall spot and apartment for you!

leptoon Angel

No idea what ya did. The new me is too lazy to find out why.. but..

Always loved ya Nolan! *HUGS YOU*

well... I can guess what the spat between you and pokofky was about... hehehe

But I am also one who has been met with flippent responses from you.

I suppose I accept the apology and only hope you will not Hate those that think different then you anymore.

Pen!!! godamn...something good did come outa this thread after all ....it brought Pen back

We now return you to the previously scheduled program " Who Wants to be a Martyr"