Is there a concerted effort by club owners against other clubs?

Travis, for the record, you were the person Tony Tigereye was referring to as not being involved with any of this. I didn't expect you to post a blow by blow - but by saying that the drama was private, instead of just saying "it was a meeting about handling griefers, not about griefing", it would have solved it. It's not a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing - it was an evasive answer that clarified nothing. You were not the only person from that meeting to characterize it as drama, btw. I did not call you deceitful in the slightest. As Marilyn Murphy pointed out, several of the people at that meeting are known for that very thing. I recognize your trying to be honorable, but if there is nothing bad going on at all, what is to hide? There are a lot of sources of griefing right now - if anyone associated with any of these clubs is involved in that, then I hope they get nailed for it. You have nothing to worry about.

Marilyn,

Always nice to see you in the forums I agree, there are many sources of the griefing going on - it has just escalated to a ridiculous level - it cannot all be random or just sour grapes revenge going on. Too much money is at stake.

We (the Herald) wrote about this almost two weeks ago here.

While the speculations by a source as to one alleged griefer's identity seem to have been not quite accurate (though close), we did have early word of the recent inter-club strife, as well as early word of peace-loving clubs banding together against such efforts: "Fortunately for the continued peace of Second Life, however, it seems that whoever was behind the efforts to drive a wedge between the two clubs has only succeeded in drawing them closer together. Not *all* the drama in Second Life is tragedy."

We're not universally well loved, but we are out there reporting this stuff. If you read the piece, I think you'll find that it is/was a useful story, posted in the spirit of journalists who like to break news and try to give their readers an idea of what's coming down the pike. We certainly don't condone griefing nor do we try to encourage it. There's plenty of stuff for us to report on--we hardly have a need for more griefers to provide us with more stories of more global attacks (which are, quite frankly, boring).

there is INDEED a conspiracy it is alleged to be masterminded by a group known as Rockwell Entertainment Male Dancers Anyone not using Blake's army of evil zombie thong clad men as dancing entertainment will be assimilated or annhilated. none shal remain except men in thongs and ashes.

When is the deadline to report to the incinerator?

Line forms on the right, here, you can even take cuts in front of me

Thats so generous of you! *laughs*

Yeah, well, that movie did REALLY suck. And I like bad movies. Its wasn't even so good it was bad, like the TV show Homeboys in Outerspace, Kevin Costner's The Postman, or the Steve Harvey/Lil' Kim vehicle, "You Got Served".

/me pictures Philip, Cory and Andrew breakdancing in the new release, "You Got Server."

-Flip

Hey, if it means less people going to clubs...

LOL you never fail to make me laugh out loud, Flipper

Just trying to keep everything in perspective, amig0

"Laughter's better than pills for what ails ya!"

So far my little club, Ra, has stayed pretty much lag and griefer free. All that stopped last night, however, when someone came along with two different scripts. One was a bong that blew smoke everywhere thus lagging some people to the point of being kicked off and another script called "Lain is God".

I have since disallowed outside scripts so we'll see what happens. If this continues, however, it looks like clubs are going to have to add "security" to the list of must haves right up there with dancers and hosts.

-Kiamat Dusk
Owner of Ra

This is funny. I know some of you from yahoo.

Whatever happened to the BAN feature on land? Why can't you just ban the greifers that do that to your club/land/etc?

Eddie

Because banning people from your land doesnt keep people from filing a shit load of fake ass abuse reports and sending in email complaints.

Unfortunately, the ban tools are woefully ineffective and stopping griefing because of the height restriction, and the fact that someone can just grief you from an adjacent parcel.

People using scare tactics against club owners?

Almost makes me want to open a club and throw down the virtual gauntlet.

Almost.

Talk about a picture worth a thousand "Rumors". I haven't seen it but, I hope my hair was brushed. LOL Honestly spent most the time in IMs. Big suprise there. Jenna invited me and I wasn't sure why or what to. I do however think its all been blown WAY outta context here. Tis SL for ya. I agree 100% with Cristiano, its all silly realy. If you have to resort to this kind of behavior to become popular your not very convindent in your abilities to market your product. As we have all seen in the past Clubs come and go. Some buy there way to the top and others just have fun. Personaly I just wanna have fun. Kinda hope this all blows over soon. Not worth any of are time.

Its one sided. People are getting dirty. Linden Labs really needs to do something about this.. its really not cool to be worried about getting banned because what you have is going to take the number 1 dwell spot from someone.

I'm not very "convident" in your age

Just to let you guys know.. Someone (not me obviously) will be releasing a ton of yahoo chat logs as well as many others. Oh and guess what.. skype can be recorded =)


As i said before its not me doing this.. i dont give a damn what you guys do.. i do think its shady but i dont care enough to fight with it.. but i just wanted to let you guys know so you could show your views here accordingly and know what is about to come out so you wont be eating your words later on.

ok a misspell, geez. get over it.

I'd like to point out that Cubey Terra's club, probably the best in SL, was excluded from this meeting.

-Flip

Club Gauntlet

Club Incinerator