Where were you when we were discussing the teaching of Intelligent Design in public schools?
We sent him to the store to buy more chips.
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08-16-2006 20:28
Where were you when we were discussing the teaching of Intelligent Design in public schools? We sent him to the store to buy more chips. _____________________
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08-16-2006 23:19
Note: NATURE'S GOD. NATURE'S GOD. NATURE'S GOD. NATURE'S GOD. Where does it mention the bible? OH, wait, it doesn't. It's NATURE'S GOD. It's the concept of a higher power. That certainly doesn't mean atheist in any way shape or form, but it also certainly doesn't mean the God of the Bible, the Bible that teaches that things that are natural are abominations and are unnatural. It would have to be an enormous stretch to consider the God of the Bible to be "Nature's God"---a stretch too extreme to even consider. Let's look up the word religion shall we? According to Websters ~ Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. I'd say that makes the United States founded on religious beliefs, like it or not. Don't think I mentioned Christianity or the bible anywhere in my post. If you see it, point it out. Am I Christian? Yep. Brought up in one of those private schools Chip or someone else mentioned. Not sure if anyone else posting in this thread went to a private school of that nature but I was taught about a good number of religions in a Catholic high school. Courses called comparitive religions. Do I believe in organized religion? Nope, lost my faith in the institutions due to the hypocrisy I saw, but retained the value system I was taught. And yes, Christianity has one of the bloodiest histories written about if you believe all you read. Christianity is also in the minority in respect to the world's religions. Also of note, currently its not the Christians that are beheading people in the name of God. |
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08-16-2006 23:28
Let's look up the word religion shall we? According to Websters ~ Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. I'd say that makes the United States founded on religious beliefs, like it or not. Don't think I mentioned Christianity or the bible anywhere in my post. If you see it, point it out. Am I Christian? Yep. Brought up in one of those private schools Chip or someone else mentioned. Not sure if anyone else posting in this thread went to a private school of that nature but I was taught about a good number of religions in a Catholic high school. Courses called comparitive religions. Do I believe in organized religion? Nope, lost my faith in the institutions due to the hypocrisy I saw, but retained the value system I was taught. And yes, Christianity has one of the bloodiest histories written about if you believe all you read. Christianity is also in the minority in respect to the world's religions. Also of note, currently its not the Christians that are beheading people in the name of God. I don't disagree with anything you just said. _____________________
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Wolfie Rankin
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08-17-2006 01:17
I'll be very frank here...
You hear of people going through tough times and becoming religious. What you don't hear is the reverse, and this is it, this is my story. I was never very religious, but I had room in my heart for a god, and I would pray quietly to myself before going to sleep... mainly for loved ones, friends, family animals and just people who needed help. Years ago I began to get sick but didn't know why... but I was ok enough, didn't worry about it too much... I was just always tired and a bit weak. I lost my lovely Dog with cancer, he melted away in front of my eyes. Mum got cancer on her nose, she had radiotherapy and was ok later. My Dad got cancer... a year later he died, alone in a hospital ward after suffering terribly. My Cat died of Cancer, after awful suffering. My Other Cat died of FHIV My Lovely Malamute got it too, and I had to watch him die... I held him down as the needle was given, there's a space inside me which feels dirty because of it and I miss him and all the others. Two weeks later, I was diagnosed with cancer. I had an operation, radiotherapy and chemotherapy and months of more chemotherapy where every week was laying around and throwing up. I've had enough, I've been whipped more than anyone can imagine and cannot accept the idea of some compasionate God. Either he doesn't exist, or is a heartless B******. I will not praise him or sing for him, and I will never pray for him again. I have nothing but hatred for this being, and should there be a heaven and I do actually get there, it's my fist and his eye. Wolfie! |
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08-17-2006 02:02
I had an operation, radiotherapy and chemotherapy and months of more chemotherapy where every week was laying around and throwing up. Are you still dealing with cancer now? Are you doing okay now? A question that goes through my head is: Have you ever researched the city/town you live in to see if there is a high abundance of people and animals getting cancer in the area besides you, your family, and your pets? I would move if I lived somewhere that that was happening to people and animals all around me. What a horrible sequence of events!! _____________________
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08-17-2006 04:31
I'd say that makes the United States founded on religious beliefs, like it or not. It might do... IF the Declaration of Independance wasn't just the equivalent of an open letter to the British Monachy. |
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08-17-2006 05:04
It might do... IF the Declaration of Independance wasn't just the equivalent of an open letter to the British Monachy. Um, the Declaration of Independence is the founding document that created the USA as a nation. |
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08-17-2006 05:06
the declaration of independence has no legal bearing in anything
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08-17-2006 06:20
I am not an Atheist, but do you not see how this thread is an attack upon people who's beliefs differ from your own? how do you feel when Atheists attack your religion? thats exactly how you are making them feel right now.
look at the world today, Religion is at the root of more than 75% of the struggles that man faces today, weither it be the conflict in the middle east, down to social problems such as gay marrage, censorship, privacy, ect. everyone needs to take a moment and think about the "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." how do you feel when people tell you what you can or cannot say? how would you feel if people told you who (denotes a person) you can and cannot marry? certian branches of christianity say dancing is a sin, so should everyone stop dancing? of course not. now stop posting to this thread and go out and do something good for humanity, help someone down on their luck get a hot meal, hold the door for someone, offer someone a sholder to cry on if they are having a bad day. these are the things you should be focusing on, not who is picking on whom. this above all was what our country was founded on, helping thy fellow man. |
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08-17-2006 07:55
Um, the Declaration of Independence is the founding document that created the USA as a nation. You fail grade school history. Please report to your local elementary school. |
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08-17-2006 07:56
You all got way off topic but .... Point one ~ Although not stating "what" religion, could be many, I quote the Declaration of Independence: "IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — " Hmmm, seems God and Creator are mentioned. Sound athiest? By Creator and God (and they are capitalized on the document) I don't think they are talkin about mom and pop. Point two ~ As for any history ... It is writen by the winners, not the losers. Read and believe what you want cause none of us living today were alive 200 or more years ago to know the truth. Point three ~ Chip, you are one very angry man in my humble opinion hehe You fail grade school history. Please report to your local elementary school. |
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08-17-2006 07:57
Where were you when we were discussing the teaching of Intelligent Design in public schools? The atheists all insisted any mention of a "possible" creator was pointing to the Bible and Christianity. That any who suggest it be taught are Christian fanatics. btw, the Bible doesn't "teach that things that are natural are abominations and are unnatural". You not only fail modern history, but also Biblical analysis. Thanks! |
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08-17-2006 08:01
Um, the Declaration of Independence is the founding document that created the USA as a nation. Seriously. I want a dance remix with this sung over the top of it, so that every time Kevn ever posts on anything ever again, I can queue this up in my MP3 player and reflect on just how Voltaire has served me so well. I just can /not/ get over this. I honestly think that this is the perfect Kevn quote. Should be right up there with such other greats as "The world is flat", "The sun revolves around the earth", and "Trust me, I know what I'm doing.". |
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08-17-2006 08:05
Seriously. I want a dance remix with this sung over the top of it, so that every time Kevn ever posts on anything ever again, I can queue this up in my MP3 player and reflect on just how Voltaire has served me so well. I just can /not/ get over this. I honestly think that this is the perfect Kevn quote. Should be right up there with such other greats as "The world is flat", "The sun revolves around the earth", and "Trust me, I know what I'm doing.". ![]() |
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08-17-2006 08:13
Finning believes that the USA was founded by Macs...
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Kevn Klein
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08-17-2006 08:14
the declaration of independence has no legal bearing in anything That is wrong. "On July 4, 1776, the Second Continental Congress, meeting in Philadelphia in the Pennsylvania State House (now Independence Hall), approved the Declaration of Independence, severing the colonies' ties to the British Crown." "In 1777, Mary Katherine Goddard printed the first official copy of the Declaration of Independence with the names of the signers attached." This link should inform you of the nature of the document more fully. http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/DeclarInd.html This is the legal, congress approved document that created the Country as it is today. Without this document the USA wouldn't exist. It would still be a British outpost. |
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08-17-2006 08:19
That is wrong. "On July 4, 1776, the Second Continental Congress, meeting in Philadelphia in the Pennsylvania State House (now Independence Hall), approved the Declaration of Independence, severing the colonies' ties to the British Crown." "In 1777, Mary Katherine Goddard printed the first official copy of the Declaration of Independence with the names of the signers attached." This link should inform you of the nature of the document more fully. http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/DeclarInd.html This is the legal, congress approved document that created the Country as it is today. Without this document the USA wouldn't exist. It would still be a British outpost. WOW are you delusional? http://americanhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa070401a.htm The declaration of independence has no legal bearing on anything in US government. Thats why the articles of confederation and later the Constitution were written. Now You do realize that the congress mentioned in your post isn't the US congress right? Seriously go back to 5th grade US government. ![]() |
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08-17-2006 08:21
Finning believes that the USA was founded by Macs... <3 finning. I ignore Finning for the most part. Unless she provides actual information, rather than her opinions and self-important, long-winded posts that don't address the issues beyond her opinions. Relating to your earlier post, if you want to understand the thread completely, you would have to read it, not just the last few pages. |
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08-17-2006 08:24
I ignore Finning for the most part. Unless she provides actual information, rather than her opinions and self-important, long-winded posts that don't address the issues beyond her opinions. Relating to your earlier post, if you want to understand the thread completely, you would have to read it, not just the last few pages. Pot. Kettle. Black. _____________________
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08-17-2006 08:30
WOW are you delusional? http://americanhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa070401a.htm The declaration of independence has no legal bearing on anything in US government. Thats why the articles of confederation and later the Constitution were written. Now You do realize that the congress mentioned in your post isn't the US congress right? Seriously go back to 5th grade US government. http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7692/stupidinternetpolicefz3.jpg Awww you went and got serious. Kinda. ![]() now for a random picture ![]() _____________________
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08-17-2006 08:33
Relating to your earlier post, if you want to understand the thread completely, you would have to read it, not just the last few pages. nah its just a general feeling about always hearing people complain that one group is picking on another ect. have a good day and Linden bless. |