What Would Jesus Do? - Girl expelled for having gay parents

Lesbian converting whore is no where in there and Neehai comments are inflammatory and make the possiblity of civil discussion limited. Does Neehai believe all lesbians are whores? Why was that even an acceptable comment?

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Well that depends on your definition of "acceptable". After all, we are all different, even on a genetic level. Given the snowflake nature of us all, is it possible to even define one thing to be acceptable?

I was paraphrasing. How clever of you to avoid the question.

I've spent a lot of time there and I respectfully disagree.

Oh, but they WERE. And they DO.

Before the Old Ones rise from the depths of sunken R'lyeh and show us what for.

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This point I can understand. The parents should not use their daughter as an attempt to make a political statement , If that is what was happening.

If someone wanted to make a political statement one of the mothers shoudl have enrolled in a Christain Univeristy instead - since she is an adult and fully aware of the consequenses of her actions.

Even if it were not, They did have to know many of the Christain school children would discriminate against this girl, becuase there is a sizable number of Christains who are uncomforatble with homosexuals and openly discriminate. And the parents would have taught their children ..



This second part - I dont understand.

and only say this -

Why?

Always trying to make this into a Left vs. Right debate.

I dont want to Shock you - but there are Republican Homosexuals, I know several.

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As to the biblical quote - I wonder how it reads in a version of the bible a bit closer to the source?

The King James version is widely recognized as the version that took the most "Creative licence" with the language and context of the bible.

Also I have often wondered why homosexuality is so high on the list of sins that the discrimiatory Christains actively are against?

It seems its much easier to find people who break The Ten Comandments than Homosexuals.

For example their are more adulturers than homosexuals, based on simple percentages.

This is a very discriminatory statement.

Having homosexual parents does not make children homosexual.

If the child has homesxual feelings they will be comfortable expressing them with homosexual parents.

But a homosexual girl in a strict religeous (and anti gay) upbringing has it far worse. She may end up marrying and trying to be 'normal', becuase being lesbian is 'wrong'. She will then end up unhappy with a personal struggle.

I was bored and I think Neehai is an asshat, err Soccer Mom.

Based on the two linked articles, there is absolutely no indication of this. Eboni and others took a huge leap by making this presumption. As others have postulated, maybe these moms were gay Christians who wanted their daughter to have a religious-based education. Why jump to any conclusions, though? The details weren't provided.

True - though were not journalists so a little bit of speculating about their motives isnt exactly Taboo.

I beleive its fair to say many Christains are discriminatory towards homosexuals. Many of those who oppose homosexual equality do so using their religeious beleif's as justification. That quote Kiamat produced for example.

So the parents had to know odds were good that many of the school would not be supportive of her mothers' partnership.

Of course its wrong to deny a child based on whether her parents are gay. I would go further to say that even if the child were gay it would be wrong reguardless of the "christain beleif's" of the school.

However in probability the parents knew they were "fighting a system" by sending their daughter there. And if they did I can think it would be better not to use their daughter in an attempt to make a political statement.

Last Id like to state in pretty clear terms homosexuality isnt some sin that we should have to repent for then well be "accepted back in the flock"

One thing I love about many Fundementalist Bible quoters is that they somehow think that the book was written in English. Check out this link for a very thorough overview of this passage. As a matter of fact, the entire site has a very balanced overview of the Bible and homosexuality.

If you're looking for Truth from God (in whatever name you want to use), you shouldn't take it as "cut and dry" if you're getting your Truth secondhand. Studying the Bible means understanding the words as they were written, not just accepting what the Committee decided they should mean.

Personally, I believe that everything the Bible (or any holy work) teaches is really common sense that anyone can figure out on their own. Or, as the more spiritually-spoken of us might say, it's written in our hearts. Too bad this school prefers following the translated shunning than following the rule that trumps all other rules: "Love others as you would want to be loved."

Based on what I know of Jesus soley on the writings in the book called the bible; I believe he would accept this child in his school. However, calling this private school 'christian' negates that statement doesn't it? That's why I gave up on organized religion eons ago. Hypocrisy rules and oft than not, the 'teachings' of jesus are highly ignored. I also find references to the old testament abominating homosexuality hilarious as well. Every 'good' christian knows the advent of jesus made the old code null and void. My .02.

but the New Testament lacks all the Fire and Brimstone and shalt nots.

Its simply not as good when you want to be judgemental, discriminatory and exclusionary.

I don't, so I neither read nor quote from either.

It's still conjecture, and as we've seen in this thread, folks latch on to these "what ifs," assuming them to be a factual part of the story. In a case like this, I think it is best not to try to divine the moms' intentions. I would love to see a response from them, but having just scoured Google news, I have not yet found one.


I think that's walking a fine line. Again, no one knows the history and/or the motives of this family.

Excellent link, Liona! Very well documented. I have been exposed to very similar exegetical studies through my own church, but this was so plainly laid out and very easy to absorb. I strongly encourage all "combatants" in this thread to take a serious read.

Do you think we'll hear much more of this story?

The part the news groups latch onto is the sensationalism of the kid being ejected becuase her parents are lesbians.

Since its a private Christain school the parents wont have any real recourse.

I kinda figure it will fade away to obscurity.

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When i made my comments I did say "if". Its hard to have a dicussion if you can not explore different possibilities.

And as to people latching on to conjecture - they need to work on their reading and be less reactionary.

*laugh* I coulda sworn I got that link from you, tho, Paolo!

Haha - Maybe it's one of the references linked off of this site: http://www.mccaustin.com/homoandbible.htm

That is a possibility. it is also a possibility that the girl wanted to go to the Christian school. I've met children who are much more religious or conservative than their parents.

In that situation, how wonderful would the parents be in letting their daughter choose her own path?

When I was a teenager I actually went to a Methodist church and threatened to get baptized just to piss of my parents. They are not religious people and were very guarded about my newfound interest in organized religion. Nonetheless, they let me have my little rebellion.

My friend that talked me into going to the church group had a lesbian mother and did not approve of her mother's sexual orientation. I think she talked about it in the church just to get loads or sympathy and attention, but she still had a differing belief.


You know, with all this talk about posting the 10 Commandments in parks, courtrooms, etc. I've wondered why there isn't a New Testament equivalent that expouses the teachings of Jesus Christ that people want posted.

If I were a religious group, I would come up with a set of NT Commandments or Ideals or something like that. You could print that up on little laquered plaques and mirrors and bookmarks and sell the shit out of them in Christian bookstores and on the Internet.

I didn't realize until I moved to Charlotte, NC just how much Christain paraphenalia you can sell.