What Would Jesus Do? - Girl expelled for having gay parents

I guess I am the only person that thinks this is the stupid parents fault.

I can see how you would, considering that they sent their kid to a school despite them having a defined policy for situations like this.

Not that I agree, but I can see how it is also their fault.

I agree. The best part about Jesus was he loved the outcasts of society. Prostitutes and suchlike that everyone else treated like dirt. He really did love them, in fact, I believe he loved everyone. EVERYONE.

Because he saw their human (and thus imperfect) souls, so that he said, even when they crucified him, "Forgive them, father, they know not what they do." He would also have said the same about the unenlightened people who run that school.

I don't think you have to be Christian to respect this about the man and try to emulate it. It's something to work toward, anyway.

coco

I guess you are probably correct. It's not an "at fault" issue or discussion; it's asking whether or not Jesus would have acted in a like manner. As I read the NT, I kinda think he's more offended by the pharisees of this world than the lepers.

Just like is was Rosa Park's fault she wanted to sit at the front of the bus?

Just like it was the stupid women's fault for wanting to vote?

That is perhaps the stupidest fucking comment I have heard in a while.

Oh, yeah -- and what Neehai said.

More naive than stupid, I think.

Why would a lesbian couple send their kid to a strict "Christian" institution? One could guess that the parents believed that a "Christian" influenced education would keep the kid out of trouble. Supposedly, there would be no sex, drugs and rock n' roll to distract her. One could also guess that maybe the kids in public school learned about her parents and picked on the daughter. The parents probably believed that putting her in a religious school might shield her from further taunts. Of course, since I don't know these people or their predicament in detail, this is all just speculation.

Although, to your credit, you at least presume that there is a benefit of the doubt.

Or maybe simply one or both moms are Christian?

Jesus never ran a school, but I remember reading Him say "Go, and sin no more" So apparantly He didn't support repeated sin. The Bible is full of statements condemning homosexuality. I would think Jesus would forgive yet insist the sinner attempt to refrain from future sins. Jesus seemed to follow the rules of the faith. He wouldn't condemn people, but he did use a whip on the money changers, He didn't seem to mind repremanding people for their sins.

As to the point of blaming the child.... Do we know if the girl was involved in sexual discussions when she was caught? Also, if the school has a policy before the issue arose, should the girl get a pass?

Should private schools accept anyone, no matter how the other children may be affected?

Just some questions running through my mind...

PS: I'm sure the church would accept the child and parents. Just not into the classroom, where small children are easily affected by their peers.

Was Jesus saying "Go" in the sense that the people he was speaking to would not be welcome at a church service or church function?

Couldn't he say "Go and sin no more" to those committing the sin of failing to love thy neighbor as themselves?

If Jesus was going to be consistent in rejecting children from admission to Christian schools based on the sinfulness status of their parents, wouldn't he need to reject children if their parents regularly committed any kind of sins, or be guilty of selective enforcement? Envy, jealousy, sloth, lying, adultery, coveting, graven image carving, missing church service, not paying your tithe - children whose parents performed any sins on a regular basis would need to be rejected.

If this policy were followed fully it would probably decrease the school's enrollment a great deal.

Jesus said "Go and sin no more" in the sense of, "Go out into the world now, and sin no more," not in the sense of "Never come back."

If Jesus rejected all the sinners because of all those various sins, there wouldn't be anyone left in the world whatsoever for him to deal with.

coco

Translation: There are a lot of things listed as sins in the bible. (shellfish anyone?) However, we find it a lot easier and more socially acceptable to bash the homos and their children.

WWJD?

So is going to Red Lobster for an all u can eat special. What's your point?

The church would accept the homosexuals, I'm sure, as I stated already. The church didn't say they can't attend services. And I didn't suggest He(Jesus) meant to go, never to return. He meant to go on your way, your sins are forgiven.. but, don't continue to sin. I don't think Jesus condemns people for their weaknesses. But I'm sure He doesn't like us speading our sins around to others. Would it be ok to let terrorist's children(who are taught that suicide bombing is a great way to die) hang out with the school kids? To many Christians, homosexuality is not only a sin, but an abomination to God. Which is worse that your everyday garden veriety of sin. So to them it would be like commiting a suicide bombing if their child became homosexual, and spread it to other children.

Because they(the private group that teaches school based on Christian principles) don't want homosexuality spread to their children doesn't mean they reject the homosexuals in their presence.

Another thing, the young lady is 14 years old, which is a woman in many religions. She isn't a small child. She very likely is following her perents lead, in which case she would be seeking out other girls for her experiments, as she would seek boys had she been exposed to parents of differing gender.

If I were to write the rules, I would not reject anyone for the actions of the parents. But I fully support all private organization to make their own rules.

You just reminded me of that great scene from an episode of Queer as Folk:

Cody: This book (Bible), we have to believe in all of it, not just some parts, right?
Pastor: Yes.
Cody: Do you like shrimp?
Pastor: As a matter of fact, I do.
Cody: Because below that abomination inscription, it's written it's also a abomination to eat shellfish. And shrimp is a shellfish, right?
Pastor: What's your point, young man?
Cody: I believe if you can eat shrimp, we can eat cock.
Pastor: You need the Lord. You need to accept Jesus.
Cody: Oh no, I accept Jesus. It's assholes like you that have a problem with that...

yikes! I doubt this thread will end well. hehe..

But my general opinion is... Private Schools can have their own rules. While Public schools suck for the most part, some do actually turn out ok due to major parental involement. And of course we can rally government for Public School changes (though we know that rarely works ) And unless your child is fit for the *one* learning style that public school approaches, and you don't like the rules of your available private schools. Then homeschooling is always an option.

*sigh* Its too bad Cody turned out to be too psycopathic for my tastes... The fact that he provoked people just brings the "two wrongs dont make a right" thing out. That episode kinda freaked me out

I think the way this girl was treated... sucks, but we cant really do anything about it. Actually, scratch that. Someone needs to find something in the bible condeming people who judge and write up a letter about it which we all can spam mail this school (hint hint).

... I need to brush up on my Bible.
==Chris

Touche'

Hmm... Christians wouldn't be welcome in an all-gay school, so what's the big problem?

It is the job of a parent to protect a child. Sending a child into an environment like this with a high probability for ridicule and disdain is grossly irresponsible and borderline child neglect. These people did not enroll their child in a public school, nor did they enroll their child in a private school, they enrolled their child in a Christian School. It makes me think they are using the child as a pawn to prove a point or make a case, I can’t believe anyone would be so willfully ignorant.


Comparing the Gay Rights movement to the Civil Rights movement will get a black person to typically turn a deaf ear on the Gay Rights in an instant.

The problem with Christians is that most are taught to believe what their parents tell them to believe. IF we question then we are usually seen as the black sheep of the family. My point is........ most Christians are so steeped in "religion" that they have forgotten that Loving God is a relationship. It's impossible to make people see that they are wrong by shoving something down their collective throats. We could do worse than to pen a well written letter and spam them with it. Letting them know that although we in SL have our differences in beliefs, we basically agree that this is apalling.

BTW..... the Bible does say" judge not that you be not judged for you'll be judged by the same thing that you judge with.."

Why do you say this Eboni? The black people in my family would disagree. Though from your posts I think your politics are more conservative than theirs. But honestly, just curious why you would say this? As I've heard the opposite expressed in my own family.

Jesus is the Christ.

The Christ follows no rules of any faith - the Christ is the rule. Faith is simply the bottle that attempts to contain the wine!

Now go forth and drink the wine of one Love!

Are you pleading ignorance to the well known and almost notorious homophobia in the black community? Try a Google Search on the topic And the rampant conservative views of most Black Americans that vote.


My views are more radical than conservative. I firmly believe that all people have to have equal rights under the law, or no one will have any rights at all. I do believe that there is no or very limited comparisons between the Civil Rights movement and the Gay Rights Movement. It is apples and oranges. It is like comparing the Holocaust, Stealing Land from Native Americans,and the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade/Slavery/Re-Construction/JimCrow. There is no comparison, and to compare them is to belittle the pain and suffering of them all.