What Would Jesus Do? - Girl expelled for having gay parents

How shameful.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050923/ap_on_re_us/lesbians__daughter_1



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170219,00.html

That's pretty ga... I mean, uh, stupid. But what do you expect, it's a Christian School. The only thing really shocking is that it's only an hour away from me and I thought things like this usually happened a little more inland than that (and even considering that, it's still not really that shocking since they are Christian).

hmmm, well, my response is... -push back.-

with a 'faith-based' administration (they've -never- recounted that support - and believe me, that phrase has a -whoooole- lotta baggage that comes along with it)...

-push back.-

what is 'faith?' period. take it to court... what is 'faith?' something legally binding? something reinforcible? something that you, as a tax-payer (if even it applied to a public education, thinking of the 'christian athletes associtaion') can or can't support?

and if the higher courts decided against you, could you successfully defend yourself, as a tax-protestor?

eh?

I think it was a private school, so they are probably allowed to do what they want. That means that the administration isn't relevant (though I wish it was because it's more fun that way ).

Allowed? Yes, they are.

I'm just trying to understand what the "Christian" thing to do is in these scenarios. After all, the girl seemed to be pretty well adjusted in her school. She was on the cheerleading squad and everything.

I suppose if you can't discriminate against the homosexuals directly, at least you can go after their children.

My guess is that Jesus would have accepted her for who she is. At least that's what the Jesus I used to kick it with back in the days of sitting on porches and shooting at old water heaters would've done. Then he would've thrown, like, some wicked God signs up in the air and cured her parents of their sexual preferences and been all like, "Booyah! Give me a J-E-S-U-S, mad-funky style!" and the girl would've been put back on the cheerleading squad and promoted to wickedy-wild-fresh holy captain of the sacred squad.

As an atheist this might be out of my area of knowledge but might it not make sense from a proselytizing Christian viewpoint to want to keep the girl in the school to help counteract the influence the girl's parent will have?

They have abandoned a soul in need, so to speak.

They've left one of the flock out unguarded to be eaten by the wolves.

heh! yeah... lesbo-cheerleader squad... personally, -i- would imagine jesus watching a coupla girls kissing and go, 'daaaay-mn, that shit's -hot!-'

but, see, that's all the 'personal (edited: 'perssonal' opinion' part of the process...

well, with all the pro-creation fucking goin' 'round, i 'jest don' see god's prob with it. considering how many kids being born, i just don't see -literally- a 'fucking deficit' to be concerned about.

-especially- when it concerns a child's educational 'worthiness'.

silly humans.

(p.s. s'funny to watch these reporters trying to stand in the wind, ain't it?

it's been a long time, but from i remember, jesus was supposed to be real forgiving and tolerant and would make the school take the kid back in, and tell people that everyone was a sinner in the eyes of god and that we were supposed to love one another and not judge people, that judgement was for god to deal with on judgement day, hence the name of the day. people who thought the gays parents were bad would be rebuked in a very loving jesus sort of way and told that pride was a sin and let he who was without sin cast the first stone.

the church back didn't say anything about being gay, one just didn't think about such things in memphis back then.

the sins of the day were adultery and drinking and jealousy and coveting.

Blanket statements condemning several religions based on an article that doesn't even detail any of the aspects of the situation is very judgemental. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the school. From what I read in the article, nothing is explained. When the school found out, was the girl suducing another girl at the football game? If she was, do the families have a right to expect certain moral codes to be upheld?

But regardless of the conditions, there is no call for condemning all Christians(Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, etc etc etc). When I see blanket statements condemning entire groups based on the actions of a few, I can't help but think of racism and bigotry. People should be judged individually, according to their character.

I think you should forward that to the board of that Christian school as a friendly reminder.

Yes, they give Christians a bad name, but what are the 'good' Christians doing to prevent that?

We try, it's just most of the stuff "good" Christians do, doesn't seem to make the front page . It gets bumped because it's not as headline catching I guess. But there are still a lot of "good" Christians out there, course most of us know that.

And they call themselves Christians.

I agree -- it's downright shameful.

You're dead on, Suz. What is the deal with Christians becoming so fargin cliquish? Several years ago, I remember a pastor admonishing a congregation that the church is a place where wounded souls come to get well. In other words, it's not a white-bread social club for upwardly mobile, middle class folk.

We went through something like this in 2003. I had recently come out, and my ex-wife took it upon herself to tell the world all about it. I was formally "shunned" by the board of trustees of a Christian educational co-op, and was told that I would not be allowed to attend any of the children's recitals or events. Numerous appeals -- including appeals by my ex-wife and other co-op families -- were tacitly ignored, so we decided to dis-enroll my children.

Geez, makes you wanna run out and join the church in a chorus of Kum ba ya, don't it?

In my view, Jesus would absolutely not have done this. It is the antithesis of what Jesus would have done.

But, it's a free country, so I guess they can be as un-Christianlike as they want.

coco

While I think kicking the girl out just coz her parents are gay is pretty stupid and downright mean, I hate to say that since it's a private school, they have the right to kick someone out for whatever reason they want. Especially if it's listed in the school's policies.

Now if a public school pulled a stunt like this, I would definitely be more outraged.

I don't understand why they can't just "judge not". Actually, I think that's what most religious people do--they don't judge or really care about such things. IMO. But the outspoken minority, the sheep, the really annoying ones... I don't know what their problem is. All I know is that the people that I know that go to church (ok not many anymore...) don't shun someone because they're queer. lol

I have to agree here. As disgusting and in conflict with the teachings of Jesus this may be, they are a private school and have the right to run it as they see fit. However, if the school recieves any money from the government then I say there are some good grounds to smack them around and either withdraw the funding or make them behave.

I don't profess to follow any religion now, possibly because I don't believe any of them have cornered the market on truth (or have a better grasp of who/what God is than anyone else). Regardless, I have to respect the teachings of the man called Jesus, who I suspect would have serious issues with modern religious organizations bearing his name.

He was a spiritual man with no regard for worldly wealth. If he was around today, I doubt he would consent to appear on TV with well known evangelists claiming to raise money to save souls. I don't think he'd be driving a Lexus, but you might find him at the bus terminal, rubbing shoulders with a homeless guy who slept on the floor....

I doubt that Jesus would be favorably impressed by the way we celebrate "Christmas". He might even be a bit horrified by how materialistic we all are... "Christians" included.

And I don't think he'd be at all pleased with what was done to that student.

I agree that Christ would condone such behavior nor should Christians at large-I certainly don't. The Bible clearly denotes that homosexuality is a sin, but it also clearly shows that God doesn't rank sin. In other words, it's no worse than any sin any of those students' parents (or the students, or the faculty for that matter) commit day in and day out.

Moreover, what on earth do her parents' status have to do with *her*!? This is precisely the kind of disgusting, exclusionary, holier-than-thou behavior that gives the real Christians such a black eye. I agree with other posters that we Christians should stand up and fight against this appalling act.

-Kiamat Dusk

MY Jesus would be trying to get in on the hot mom-on-mom action. I dunno what YOUR Jesus would be doing.

Jesus would remind us that the Christ is within us all.

Then he'd kick some ass and say,


"Don't worry, be happy."

Hay, maybe this would be a good cause for the Protest Warriors to take up? lready having a mobilized group will give you a headstart.

Also, it is a little tiring seeing the same pro-homo groups out their fighting the good fight.

If you need any help, I would be glad to asist.

I tend to rant on subjects like this. (sorry)
Having had experiences with Christian schools in the past. While I understand they have a need to maintain whatever the By-Laws of the church say, I do not understand how they can punish a child for the actions of their parents.

One of my best friends has a son who went to a Christian School. for a while. He was sent packing. WHY? because he did not "act" as they thought he should during praise and worship. He was searching for God and they kicked him out, sighting that he wasn't "saved" and they didn't want him interacting with the other kids. I was FUMING, smoke out both ears MAD! Yet, there was nothing we could do. I later had the privilidge of going to youth camp as a councelor.The same boy was a part of the group.

Next.... I recently had something happen that I could never have seen nor imagined and since I believe nothing happens to us by chance, I believed it was to open my eyes a bit more. A preacher I have a great deal of respect for ( I'd move to his church if he were still pastor) recently stepped down after revealing he had been having a homosexual relationship with someone in his office. This sent hundreds of people into a tizzy.... needless to say. I was taken aback a bit but decided to examine his teachings and found them to be spot on regardless of his personal lifestyle. I have always bucked the religions where this subject is concerned. I have numerous friends and family that are gay. I don't think their lifestyle precludes them from the love of The Christ and the possibility of His rewards.


That's up to HIM. I do not have the knowledge to judge nor do I wish to be judged.
My heart goes out to this girl and her parents. God's work can be summed up in one word:
Love.

That is hardly a settled issue, Kiamat. Plenty of theologians and scholars would disagree with you on your assertion that homosexuality, in and of itself, is a sin. I understand that you are trying to take a moderately supportive stance WRT this situation, but stating opinion as fact only perpetuates the groupthink.