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Bullies, Alts, Hypocrites and Know-it-alls

Usagi Musashi
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10-03-2005 17:31
From: Weedy Herbst
Recently there has been an upsurge of this. Some thread starters think they are smarter than LL staff and everyone else in the forums and relentlessly beat everyone over the head with the same rhetorical hogwash.

Know-it-alls. - Some people are out to convince others that they are always right or smarter than the creators of Second Life. I got news for these types. LL has a staff of highly trained, innovative and creative people. All this "They should do this, or they should do that" is highly insulting to the staff and those who admire them for a job done well. Most of these naysayers have no idea, that they know nothing anything other than hearing the sound of their own voices. LL has thread for Feature Suggestions and a Hotline. Post there if you want results. Posting in General only stirs up a hornet's nest. I doubt anyone knows about LL policies better than LL themselves.

Some of you, should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink. These forums are not a daycare or touchy-feely place where one is entitled more than anyone else. If one cannot accept criticism, then don't post expecting sympathy either.

Let the Lindens do their job. Don't insist they change things because you have some axe to grind with someone else.


OMG So I am not alone in this belief! I never seen so many cry babies AKA Know-It-All. Your have a friend Weedy :)
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Cristiano Midnight
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10-03-2005 17:46
From: Snowcrash Hoffman
Yes, probably because he realized your soul can not be saved :)


Oh will you two just hug and make up already? Life is too short. Just today I actually had to * warning foul language filled thread *close a thread in the SLU forums because two people just could not get along, and had run out of new swear words. It was tragic.
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10-04-2005 18:45
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Chance Abattoir
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10-04-2005 18:46
Move to off-topic please.
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10-04-2005 20:32
From: Chance Abattoir
Move to off-topic please.


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10-04-2005 23:30
From: Cristiano Midnight
Oh will you two just hug and make up already? Life is too short. Just today I actually had to close a thread in the SLU forums because two people just could not get along, and had run out of new swear words. It was tragic.


But not before taking a few wacks at the victim yourself first. Yeah I read the thread and I think everyone else should be reading THAT thread.

Shows a lot of true colors and the real personalities of the ppl here in the LL forums. One of my favorites was about the nerve of someone coming into the LL forums which were explained as an established groups "corner bar" and having their ass handed to them on a platter for going against the established groups view on a subject. Yes it was a very enlightening read thanks for the link. I have to say however I was stunned at just how comfotable your group has become, pitty realy.

:rolleyes:

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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-04-2005 23:55
From: Martin Magpie
But not before taking a few wacks at the victim yourself first. Yeah I read the thread and I think everyone else should be reading THAT thread.
I read the thread and I did not see Cristiano say anything that wasn't completely neutral. He acted as a liberal moderator trying to inject humor into a very contentious debate and he only locked the thread when the name calling became extreme.

I must say that the language and attitude of Cienna and Dogspot was just shameful. It was a chair-throwing Jerry Springer episode that served to do nothing but equally humiliate the contestants. I feel bad for them. :(

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10-04-2005 23:59
"My money is on Nolan, he hasn't whipped out the good stuff yet." Fair? that is not my idea of fair tbh.

Edit; but your right it wasn't a few wacks, sorry I always confuse Nolan and him they just post so much a like and so often together it confuses me.

Also Nolan was just as bad as the rest.
Kris Ritter
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10-05-2005 00:10
Why did it tickle me so much to see this thread "Bullies, Alts, Hypocrites and Know-it-alls" immediately followed by one called "Squirrels, Rabbits, Mice 'n' More" in the new posts list?

Signed,

Kris,
A bully, alt, hypocrite, know all squirrel.
Cristiano Midnight
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10-05-2005 05:21
From: Martin Magpie
"My money is on Nolan, he hasn't whipped out the good stuff yet." Fair? that is not my idea of fair tbh.

Edit; but your right it wasn't a few wacks, sorry I always confuse Nolan and him they just post so much a like and so often together it confuses me.

Also Nolan was just as bad as the rest.


As usual, you cut off the quote in half to make it look like I only said something about Nolan, whereas I went on to say something equal about DogSpot. The entire thread was ugly. I had hoped that at some point they would just back off of each other, but they are both pretty strong willed and well versed in swearing, so it just went downhill very fast. I didn't take sides at all.

Not that I owe you any explanation for your alt claim about Nolan and I, but I speak with Nolan on Yahoo almost daily and we talk about a lot of things related to SL, and will often post in a thread we are talking about. You know fully that we are not the same person, so I don't know why you persist in claiming we are, but I hope you will stop.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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10-05-2005 05:31
I'm just ashamed to be the OP of the first thread ever closed on SLUniverse. :(





:p Do I win a prize Cris?
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Cristiano Midnight
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10-05-2005 05:51
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I'm just ashamed to be the OP of the first thread ever closed on SLUniverse. :(

:p Do I win a prize Cris?


LOL like you didn know that something entitled "name your forum bullies" or whatever was going to go to hell toute suite? As far as your prize, if you read the thread, I am sure you can figure out what your prize would be. :p
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10-05-2005 05:53
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10-05-2005 06:35
From: Cristiano Midnight
As usual, you cut off the quote in half to make it look like I only said something about Nolan, whereas I went on to say something equal about DogSpot. The entire thread was ugly. I had hoped that at some point they would just back off of each other, but they are both pretty strong willed and well versed in swearing, so it just went downhill very fast. I didn't take sides at all.


I need to speak up here.

Cristiano is exactly right. He didn't take sides. In fact, I interpreted his "my money is on Nolan" comment to be an attempt to inject some humor into the thread to help defuse the situation.

I have no further comments regarding that thread. It was, as Cris said, ugly and further comment would only serve to reignite that which was put out when the thread was closed.

If anybody is _really_ interested, PM me or IM in world.
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10-05-2005 06:58
Cussing scorecard in that thread, just so people are clear on this:

DogSpot - 42 total. 14 of them after claiming to have "tried to adjust the tenor". After about 10 of those 14, DogSpot lectures about how she longs for "decency on forums".

Cienna - 11 total. Cienna did set the tone more or less, as she started cussing first. DogSpot picked up on that and went off in post after post, which helped set the tone for the rest of the thread.

Nolan - 13 total. In fairness, I called DogSpot a D*****hbag in my first post in that thread. It was flying all over both sets of forums that day (apparently it was the word of the day), and I didn't want to be left out. :p

Later.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-05-2005 07:00
From: DogSpot Boxer
I need to speak up here.
For what it is worth, I think you started out well but, when Cienna resorted to crass verbal attacks, you made the mistake of following her. The best thing to do with people like that is to walk away.

You'll see me do it all the time. If there is a person personally attacking me in a thread I'll simply not respond to them, while continuing to discuss things with others. (Although if someone had shoveled out filth like Cienna did initially, I probably would have walked away from my browser altogether. :D)

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10-05-2005 07:11
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
For what it is worth, I think you started out well but, when Cienna resorted to crass verbal attacks, you made the mistake of following her. The best thing to do with people like that is to walk away.

You're right. But she ignores me now, so I'm much happier.

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From: Nolan Nash

DogSpot - 42 total. 14 of them after claiming to have "tried to adjust the tenor". After about 10 of those 14, DogSpot lectures about how she longs for "decency on forums".

OMG! I used 42 cuss words compared to 14 and 11 on the part of the other principals in that thread.

I guess that means you win that thread.
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10-05-2005 07:18
From: DogSpot Boxer
You're right. But she ignores me now, so I'm much happier.

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Nolan, what's the point of the scorecard?

Oh, right. It's just another opportunity to take a poke at me.



When you leave a trail like the one you've left behind so far, you poke yourself. Right in the eye. The one with the beam in it.


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10-05-2005 07:19
From: Nolan Nash
When you leave a trail like the one you've left behind so far, you poke yourself. Right in the eye. The one with the beam in it.

And of course, you can't resist taking your usual cheap shots, right?

Don't pretend you have some sort of moral high ground, Nolan.

If I made an ass of myself in that thread, you did so as well.

And your trail around here isn't exactly spectacular. Of course the trail doesn't vary much. I think I hear music.
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10-05-2005 07:24
That's it, you two....get over here and hug Bob Dole!


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10-05-2005 07:34
From: DogSpot Boxer
And of course, you can't resist taking your usual cheap shots, right?

Don't pretend you have some sort of moral high ground, Nolan.

If I made an ass of myself in that thread, you did so as well.

See Dog, I don't. And that is the whole point. You constantly preach from that high moral ground you don't stand on. False because you behave as badly or worse as those you lecture for their behavior.

I never claim one way or the other about my behavior. I don't claim to be mean or nice. I just point out inconsistency, and it drives some people mad. C'est la vie, I am not going anywhere. I am here until the ship that is SL goes down.

You leave a indelible trail on the net when you post. If you don't like having what you do pointed out to you, change the way you do it - if you want to, however, if you don't, bear in mind, I will be here to point that out (well, not with you, as you seem to just flip out over it, see below), either way.

Gift or curse, I have an eidetic memory, especially when it comes to situations in which folks beseech others to act a certain way, while not adhering to their own policies.

I should point out that you are becoming very one-noted with your preachy little statements about me being "one-noted". Quaint. :)

At any rate Dog, it's been interesting. I think we need to not respond to each other anymore, so I will initiate that.
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10-05-2005 07:43
oh cristiano. i know for a fact your not nolan. you happen to be well reasoned, interesting and rather level headed.
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10-05-2005 07:44
From: Nolan Nash

You leave a indelible trail on the net when you post. If you don't like having what you do pointed out to you, change the way you do it - if you want to, however, if you don't, bear in mind, I will be here to point that out (well, not with you, as you seem to just flip out over it, see below), either way.

As much as I _wish_ you'd leave me alone, I have doubts you WILL leave me alone.

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Gift or curse, I have an eidetic memory, especially when it comes to situations in which folks beseech others to act a certain way, while not adhering to their own policies.


Even if I concede this statement, you don't have to comment on it every time it happens. But yet, you feel compelled to do so. There was no good reason for you take me to task in this thread. And yet, you seemingly couldn't resist.

The whole scorecard thing is like you're sticking your fingers in your ears and going neener, neener, neener.

You're not pointing out anything, you're just taking a cheap shot at me.

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At any rate Dog, it's been interesting. I think we need to not respond to each other anymore, so I will initiate that.

You may choose as you wish.
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10-05-2005 07:45
From: Marilyn Murphy
oh cristiano. i know for a fact your not nolan. you happen to be well reasoned, interesting and rather level headed.

Thanks Marilyn.

Coming from someone who has cursed me out with a vast array of expletives, in-world, over hurt pride because I refused (TWO years ago, no less) join the list of people you've used, thats beautiful. :)

I agree with you on Cristiano, but pluck that beam from your own eye too, will ya?
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10-05-2005 07:50
From: Marilyn Murphy
oh cristiano. i know for a fact your not nolan. you happen to be well reasoned, interesting and rather level headed.


But not above linking to the SLU thread in question, so that everyone could go see it for themselves. Why bother? (Ya, I admit, I looked at it. I wish I hadn't.)

This is not an unfriendly comment, btw. It didn't strike me as the right thing to do, but I may have missed something.

As for Cienna Samiam, I thought she was gone. She created a performance out of it in another thread about changes in the ToS, and I took her seriously. Or is she planning a come-back off-Broadway before hitting the Big Apple again? ;)

Cienna and the others involved are usually wickedly creative people, or creatively wicked, depending on the circumstances. What happened in that thread was just plain wrong. Something else was going on there. Hate to see silence replace the repartee, though. Can't we all barb, duck, joust, skewer, and love at the same time?
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