Bullies, Alts, Hypocrites and Know-it-alls
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Weedy Herbst
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10-01-2005 15:07
Recently there has been an upsurge of this. Some thread starters think they are smarter than LL staff and everyone else in the forums and relentlessly beat everyone over the head with the same rhetorical hogwash.
Bullies - We have people a few people who accuse others of being bullies, but are bullies themselves. The victim card gets played alot, when people are confronted. It's a lame excuse for making ridiculous posts. Nobody is above reproach. When you post here, you should expect contrary opinions and it's insane to expect 100% agreement.
Alts - Using alts to post is not, nor should be shunned unless the poster does it to make incite inflammatory remarks about other residents or LL staff.
Hypocrites - We sure see alot of this these days. Pot meet kettle. Sadly being a hypocrite is not against the forum rules as such, but often incites reaction. I pity poor Jeska sometimes because I'm sure she knows someone is shit disturbing merely to draw a reaction from others who feel the need to not allow bullshit to stand. Some people accuse others of doing things, yet do it themselves and when called on it, get all bent out of shape and resort to personal attacks or play the dreaded victim card, yet again.
Know-it-alls. - Some people are out to convince others that they are always right or smarter than the creators of Second Life. I got news for these types. LL has a staff of highly trained, innovative and creative people. All this "They should do this, or they should do that" is highly insulting to the staff and those who admire them for a job done well. Most of these naysayers have no idea, that they know nothing anything other than hearing the sound of their own voices. LL has thread for Feature Suggestions and a Hotline. Post there if you want results. Posting in General only stirs up a hornet's nest. I doubt anyone knows about LL policies better than LL themselves.
Some of you, should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink. These forums are not a daycare or touchy-feely place where one is entitled more than anyone else. If one cannot accept criticism, then don't post expecting sympathy either.
Let the Lindens do their job. Don't insist they change things because you have some axe to grind with someone else.
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Dianne Mechanique
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10-01-2005 15:20
From: Weedy Herbst Recently there has been an upsurge of this. Some thread starters think they are smarter than LL staff and everyone else in the forums and relentlessly beat everyone over the head with the same rhetorical hogwash.
Bullies - We have people a few people who accuse others of being bullies, but are bullies themselves. The victim card gets played alot, when people are confronted. It's a lame excuse for making ridiculous posts. Nobody is above reproach. When you post here, you should expect contrary opinions and it's insane to expect 100% agreement.
Alts - Using alts to post is not, nor should be shunned unless the poster does it to make incite inflammatory remarks about other residents or LL staff.
Hypocrites - We sure see alot of this these days. Pot meet kettle. Sadly being a hypocrite is not against the forum rules as such, but often incites reaction. I pity poor Jeska sometimes because I'm sure she knows someone is shit disturbing merely to draw a reaction from others who feel the need to not allow bullshit to stand. Some people accuse others of doing things, yet do it themselves and when called on it, get all bent out of shape and resort to personal attacks or play the dreaded victim card, yet again.
Know-it-alls. - Some people are out to convince others that they are always right or smarter than the creators of Second Life. I got news for these types. LL has a staff of highly trained, innovative and creative people. All this "They should do this, or they should do that" is highly insulting to the staff and those who admire them for a job done well. Most of these naysayers have no idea, that they know nothing anything other than hearing the sound of their own voices. LL has thread for Feature Suggestions and a Hotline. Post there if you want results. Posting in General only stirs up a hornet's nest. I doubt anyone knows about LL policies better than LL themselves.
Some of you, should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink. These forums are not a daycare or touchy-feely place where one is entitled more than anyone else. If one cannot accept criticism, then don't post expecting sympathy either.
Let the Lindens do their job. Don't insist they change things because you have some axe to grind with someone else. Excellent post! and so true. I claim myself to be innocent of all but the "know-it-all" category. I am afraid however, that if I qualify for it, you do as well. 
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Invect Hasp
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10-01-2005 15:20
From: Weedy Herbst Recently ... else. Pot meet kettle.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-01-2005 15:20
From: Weedy Herbst Some of you, should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink. I hate these generic personal attacks. What if someone were to return it and make it specific. Such as, Weedy, you should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink. It's just ugly. Like your post. ~Ulrika~
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-01-2005 15:24
I really do not care for these ranting personal attacks that hide behind generality.
Does the whole forum need to be present while you have your tantrum? It's not like you're seeking change or offering constructive criticism -- you're just bitching. How selfish of you.
~Ulrika~
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Selador Cellardoor
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10-01-2005 15:26
From: Weedy Herbst Bullies - We have people a few people who accuse others of being bullies, but are bullies themselves.
I haven't seen this, personally. Perhaps we have different definitions of being a bully. To me a forum bully is one who relentlessly attacks someone else even when they are aware that they are upsetting their victim. From: Weedy Herbst Know-it-alls. - Some people are out to convince others that they are always right or smarter than the creators of Second Life.
Now Weedy, I think you are being very unfair to Eggy. *gets head down quickly!*
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Margaret Mfume
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10-01-2005 15:51
How about forum stalkers? That's how I think of the posters whom you can expect to see following the post of certain individuals with whom they don't like, have a history with, or are holding a grudge against.
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Weedy Herbst
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10-01-2005 15:59
From: Margaret Mfume How about forum stalkers? That's how I think of the posters whom you can expect to see following the post of certain individuals with whom they don't like, have a history with, or are holding a grudge against. Responding to a thread in the contrary, most times does not constitute stalking. If someone is stalking, LL will swiftly deal with it.
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MJ Hathor
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10-01-2005 16:31
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Margaret Mfume
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10-01-2005 17:02
From: Weedy Herbst Responding to a thread in the contrary, most times does not constitute stalking.
If someone is stalking, LL will swiftly deal with it. Responding to a thread in the contrary is not what I'm talking about. Maybe in those cases where you can easily envision someone responding in a totally different manner and tone had someone else posted. I'm not as sure as you are about LL's dealing with stalking swiftly but not due to their lack of concern. Stalking is not easy to deal with at all, much less swiftly. I do feel my use of the word overstates the situation although the pattern of behavior is similar. The difference is in the ability to do real harm in a forum, for pete's sake. Maybe the word bully falls in this category, too. The best description I can think of would be to liken it to a swarm of gnats which hover around you. They don't harm you. They just tend to keep you from enjoying yourself, are distracting, and are annoyingly persistant.
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blaze Spinnaker
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10-01-2005 17:07
I've actually got an ignore list which is pretty long. So, probably, have a lot of people here.
It's all good.
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Snowcrash Hoffman
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10-01-2005 17:30
From: Ulrika Zugzwang I hate these generic personal attacks. What if someone were to return it and make it specific. Such as, Weedy, you should get a fucking life or a job or see a shrink.
It's just ugly. Like your post. ~Ulrika~ Ouch! Did it hit home hard there? You really got annoyed by this post didn't you? Probably looking at Weedy's post than looking at the mirror of mind and realizing, "oops that's all me!, she just told me to get a fucking life, I'll show her who is a bully, hypocrite and know it all ~Ulrika~ "
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Snowcrash Hoffman
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10-01-2005 17:35
From: Ulrika Zugzwang I really do not care for these ranting personal attacks that hide behind generality.
Does the whole forum need to be present while you have your tantrum? It's not like you're seeking change or offering constructive criticism -- you're just bitching. How selfish of you.
~Ulrika~ Who are you to talk about personal attacks? Haha! you are the only one in these forums I reported three times for personal attacks towards me! Since, LL is not able to respond to those, I'll do it myself. You are personally attacking Weedy. You are calling her bitching, and selfish and having tantrums. I am amazed how you could demonstrate such an incredible hypocrisy by critisizing personal attacks first! This really should go into dictionaries as an example of what a hypocrite is. Really amazing, considering how ironic it is, being in respons to a post about bullies, personal attacks and hypocrites. I will add it to Wikipedia for sure! Bravo!
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Emma Soyinka
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10-01-2005 17:41
From: blaze Spinnaker I've actually got an ignore list which is pretty long. So, probably, have a lot of people here.
It's all good. I wouldn't qualify that as "good". 
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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10-01-2005 17:44
People need to be very careful of what they do here in the forums, or other people will send them instant messages inworld describing them as an "autistic bigot who needs to have sex".
And then the whole rest of their lives will be ruined!
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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10-01-2005 17:45
From: blaze Spinnaker I've actually got an ignore list which is pretty long. So, probably, have a lot of people here.
It's all good. Am I on your ignore list blaze?
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Sarendale Parvenu
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10-01-2005 17:56
How about if someone repeatedly accuses you of being the alternate of Tcos Bach, warning people not to speak to you, claims that you did stuff like call their internet service provider and filed DMCA actions against them, and posts links to material they claim was produced you which you have never seen?
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Seth Kanahoe
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10-01-2005 18:01
Can somone give us a "best of" list on each? Best of the bullies, best of the hypocrites, best of the know-it-alls? I just don't feel comfortable anymore unless I read a "best of" list. Or a poll, how about a poll? I'd feel better if there was a poll....
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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10-01-2005 18:12
From: Seth Kanahoe Can somone give us a "best of" list on each? Best of the bullies, best of the hypocrites, best of the know-it-alls? I just don't feel comfortable anymore unless I read a "best of" list. Or a poll, how about a poll? I'd feel better if there was a poll.... Start it out in the off topic forum, save the moderator some trouble.
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April Firefly
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10-01-2005 18:19
From: Seth Kanahoe Can somone give us a "best of" list on each? Best of the bullies, best of the hypocrites, best of the know-it-alls? I just don't feel comfortable anymore unless I read a "best of" list. Or a poll, how about a poll? I'd feel better if there was a poll.... Yeah, a Poll, do a poll. I like polls, can anyone tell? Also, am I a bully, or a hypocrite, I'm not an alt but I guess I could be a Know-it-all. I need to know. Hi Seth.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-01-2005 18:30
Just look at all the finger pointing, childish behavior, and anger this thread has brought out of the forum. What an absolute disservice to the whole forum community.  ~Ulrika~
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April Firefly
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10-01-2005 19:00
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Just look at all the finger pointing, childish behavior, and anger this thread has brought out of the forum. What an absolute disservice to the whole forum community.  ~Ulrika~ What did I do? I didn't point any fingers. I do love polls, so I wasn't technically being childish. What did I do? Shoot, I hate these generic personal attacks.
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From: Billybob Goodliffe the truth is overrated  From: Argent Stonecutter The most successful software company in the world does a piss-poor job on all these points. Particularly the first three. Why do you expect Linden Labs to do any better? Yes, it's true, I have a blog now!
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Seth Kanahoe
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10-01-2005 19:07
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Just look at all the finger pointing, childish behavior, and anger this thread has brought out of the forum. What an absolute disservice to the whole forum community. ~Ulrika~ heh heh. If you get any wry-er and dry-er, Ulrika, we're going to have to declare these forums a desert wasteland.
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Snowcrash Hoffman
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10-01-2005 19:09
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Just look at all the finger pointing, childish behavior, and anger this thread has brought out of the forum. What an absolute disservice to the whole forum community.  ~Ulrika~ From: April Firefly What did I do? I didn't point any fingers. I do love polls, so I wasn't technically being childish. What did I do? Shoot, I hate these generic personal attacks. But, but...wait this wasn't you who finger pointed in anger: From: Ulrika Zugzwang Does the whole forum need to be present while you have your tantrum? It's not like you're seeking change or offering constructive criticism -- you're just bitching. How selfish of you. That's brilliant! Thank you April 
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Snowcrash Hoffman
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10-01-2005 19:12
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Just look at all the finger pointing, childish behavior, and anger this thread has brought out of the forum. What an absolute disservice to the whole forum community.  ~Ulrika~ I hate these generic personal attacks. What if someone were to return it and make it specific. Such as, Ulrika, stop your finger pointing, childish behavior and anger you bring to these forum. What an absolute disservice you would be doing to the whole forum. It's just ugly. Like your post.
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