concieve a child to be a bone marrow donor, your thoughts?

Obviously NOT. Who's in charge of memos this week? We need to have words.

Yeah. For most forced-birthers, the realised human can go fuck themselves, except most of them are also anti-masturbation.

You won't take my masturbation away from me unless you pry it from my cold dead hand.

I'd rather watch

Zuzu, you made me giggle!

as someone who cant have children I find abortion wrong. if god gives you the chance to have a child then you should take the gift of life and love it to its full. I would hate to grow up knowing or finding out that the only reason my parents wanted me was to save my siblings life. My attitude to that sibling and my parents would surely change. No one can justify murder, and just because the child has not been born yet does not mean its not alive, its a mass of cells from the moment its concieved. What if they have the child and it does not save the one they already have? how will the parents feel towards the baby? thats lots of pressure to put on something not even born yet. I cant condone it. I understand that parents would do anything for their kids... but you have to draw the line somewhere!!!

I had a son that was born with Hydranencephaly in October of '04. For those not familiar with this particular condition, it is a rare neurological condition that basically means he was missing much or most of his cerebral hemispheres. For him there was absolutely no chance of a miracle surgery, and he passed away in December '04. From this experience I can tell you, I would have DEFINETLY concieved another child, not just for a life saving procedure but certainly that would be a big part of the decision, and WOULD NOT abort a fetus because it is not a match. This child would be just as loved! How could I not love any child i concieve?! I am not a medical expert, but I know there are ways to do this without aborting children to get a match. Should anyone listen to someone that has 1. no children 2. has no idea what they are talking about 3.talks rudely and promotes themselves as an advocate for life, but at the same time threatens others who are offering their viewpoints based on actual experience. 4. thinks they know more than actual doctors 5.uses google.com as a viable resource

Doctors go to college for a reason, typing in keywords on google does not make you an expert.

Please think before you post, this is an extremely painful subject for some of us who have had to deal with this type of loss.

Aleri, I am truely saddened by your loss. I can only imagine how hard it must be. Thoughts of peace and comfort are headed your way.

I am truly sorry, it must be hard to lose a child. If I am the one to offend you I apologise, I can only see it from my side of the fence, and never intend to offend/hurt/upset people.

This is an inexcusable thing to say. You are really an unpleasant person, aren't you? And you aren't doing your cause any good either.

So abortion is wrong but threatening to run someone over with a truck isn't? This is the logic that leads to people shooting doctors who perform abortions.

Arguing and debating is one thing, but you do not have the right to ask someone that question nor to judge their reasons. That is a very personal thing and none of your business. A reasonable person would apologize for letting their emotions get the better of them and even asking this question.

Way to completely hijack the thread, nicely done.

Back to the actual topic. I have children and even I can not say what I would do in this situation. I can't know unless I'm actually in it and even then a person can only do what their concience allows them to do. Often times we do things knowing they are wrong because to not do them is just to painful to contemplate. Sometimes we do things we know will keep us up at night because the alternative is worse.

I do not know what I would or would not do with my child's life at stake. I hope I never know. I do know that I can not bring myself to judge whether someone else's actions are right or wrong when they are faced with that kind of choice.

I don't know if any of us can know what we would do, just promise ourselves we'd do our best.

*hug*

people get dogs and throw them into a corner and attach a shock collar to the poor pup like he is a house plant, a object that you own, so why not this either? i'm really the wrong person to ask this, as I am becoming more pro animal life lately and really care less about human life with alot of stuff I have experienced from cold human beings lately.

I have alot of views on this issue that would get me labeled "warped" and sent out of town on a ban list because I challenge conventional thinking, which is simply translated to: not sharing it here....

You did read the first post in this thread didn't you? Let me quote it :



To repeat myself, I find it a disturbing reason to have a second pregnancy, but I can understand it. Obviusly I havn't been in a situation even remotely close enough to this to make an informed decision, but I just can't help feel the new babies name should be Spareparts.

On the other hand, getting pregnant for the purpose of being a bone marrow donor, and then aborting because the new fetus isn't a match, well I'm sorry, that's just wrong. As someone else said, how many is too many aborted children for obtaining a proper match for being a donor? 1? 2? 5?

p.s. I AM pro choice and feel having an abortion is a persons choice, but in this one instance, that's a shitty decision to me.

I understand what you're saying but despite what the original post stated, abortion really doesn't factor in to these kinds of situations anymore, not unless creating the pregnancy is a plan decided upon and done by the parents alone and then they'd still need a doctor to do the prenatal tests, so it isn't possible to just do it on their own...... technology has moved past this.

Parents who decide to have a second child in order to provide bone marrow for a first now use in vitro fertilization. They create a number of embryos (not babies, embryos). The embryos are tested to determine whether or not they are a match to the sick child and tested to determine whether they are healthy and viable and then the one chosen is placed in the mother's womb.

After the birth the bone marrow is taken from the umbilical cord, not from the baby. There are no fetuses aborted with this process. Embryos that are not viable are disposed of but that is no different than every egg that passes through a woman's reproductive system and dies on it's own anyway.

I read the original post and yes the OP mentioned abortion but it really doesn't apply to the scenerio. It's not generally how it's done anymore.

As to it being a disturbing reason to have a baby. People have babies for much more disturbing reasons. Teenage girls have babies because they feel alone and want someone to love them. Married couples have babies because they think it will save a faltering marriage. Good lord just look at hollywood. People are having and adopting babies because it's the trendy thing to do. I actually saw on an entertainment "news" show, an anchorwoman use the phrase, "Babies, the ultimate accessory this season."

At least in this situation the child grows up being loved and appreciated by the family and perhaps even with the first child's lifelong gratitude, knowing their sibling saved their life.