concieve a child to be a bone marrow donor, your thoughts?

Parents of a teenage daughter with leukemia need to find a bone marrow donor to save her life. No tissue match can be found in existing family members. Is it morally justifiable to conceive another child in the hopes that the child will be a compatible tissue donor? The parents plan a prenatal test to make the determination and will terminate the pregnancy if the tissues are incompatible.

What are your thoughts on this subject? I am going to be debating it tomorrow in my ethics class @ college and I wanted to hear how you the people of SL feel about this subject. Please comment on it as much as you want.

I will read every comment posted in reply to this. Your comments may be quoted and cited in my class as I debate.

I personally can't judge people in that situation. As a mother myself, that would do anything for her child, I can somewhat understand their desperation. It's a shitty situation to be in. And I have heard of this being done before.

Is it prim bone-marrow? If not, why's it here?

Ok this has no relevance to Sl, I'm moving it to the Sandbox

I wouldnt' ever do that, I am not a mother but it is morally wrong if you are going to have to abort a child. Aborting a child to save another child? What if you have to go through 2 abortions? 3 abortions? When do you draw the line? You are basically killing a child to save another child if you have to.

How would you feel if you were born and used to save your sister, then when you are of the age of maturity your parents tell you that you were the 4th child and they aborted 3 others before you. THen you realize that if you didn't have the compatible bone marrow, you would be aborted too. I would feel bad knowing that they killed 3 other children before me and would've killed me as well if it wasn't for my compatible marrow.

How would you feel if you were the child being saved? Knowing that it took your parents 3 or 4 children to save you. They killed 3 or 4 babies to save you. I don't care what you say, aborting a child is murder. They will try to tell you that a baby isn't a baby until it's born, before then it is a fetus and before a fetus it is an embryo until 8 weeks.

It has the complete genetic makeup to be a human therefore it is a human. YOu are human from beginning to the end, you don't polymorph from embryo to human. You are a human emybro when you are concieved meaning you are human, real, and you deserve all the rights of a living human being as soon as you are concieved.

When they put all the elements together to melt and make plasic it still called plastic even before it is molded, shouldn't a human still be a human before it is molded completely?

I remember the family. The Ayala family. They had either one or two children and the daughter developed leukemia. She needed a bone marrow transplant and none of them were a match. So the father actually went through a vasectomy reversal, I believe and the mother ended up conceiving at age 40, no small feat. They had a baby daughter who was a perfect match. The transplant was a complete success. The older daughter got married a few years ago and can't have children because of the treatment she received for her illness.

At the time, I wasn't a mother but I remember thinking, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Now that I have a child of my own, I'd move heaven and earth to help her if she were in that situation, including having another baby if she needed a bone marrow transplant. The baby would be welcomed with open arms anyway, despite the circumstances of it's conception.

would you abort 3 other children beforehand if they weren't compatible? If someone is going to die of lukemia and you can't find a compatible bone marrow donor then some might call it fate and you should die. How can teh world population balance out if we keep saving all these people that are supposed to die. Fate decides who will come and who will go but now days we make fate wait a bit.

I might add that i have researched this and many doctors now admit to having knowledge of such things like this and aborting a lot of incompatible children for bone marrow transplants and other things similar. This has secretly been happening across north america for the past few decades.

Abortion does not need to factor in.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/321/7266/918/f




As to the poll I can't vote in it. I can not judge other people's actions when I don't know what suffering they are going through or what is in their hearts.

When you have a child of your own, come talk to me then. How can you make a statement like "how can teh world population balance out if we keep saving all these people that are supposed to die." Have you ever heard of modern medicine? But in my post, I never mentioned aborting other embryos simply because they don't match.

I would consider having in vitro fertilization, choosing the embryo (or embryos) that matched as a donor as the one (or two) to implant and donating the others to infertile couples for embryo adoption.

as a father would take a bullet without a second's hesitation for any family member, I wouldn't think twice about it if this happened to one of my sons. My family comes before any moral quams, PERIOD! There is nothing more important than that.

someone call social services! It may seem selfish but when it comes to my family, the rest of the world can fuck off. You've heard the analogy about the momma bear and messing with her cubs right?

did you know that most abortions the baby can feel? did you know that the baby is usually pulled limb for limb?

The type of abortion that bothered me the most is the Caesarean Section abortion (c-section).


this also bothers me

oh and read this
Salt Poisoning (Saline Injection):
"Used after 16 weeks (four months) when enough fluid has accumulated. A long needle injects a strong salt solution through the mother's abdomen into the baby's sac. The baby swallows this fluid and is poisoned by it. It also acts as a corrosive, burning off the outer layer of skin. It normally takes somewhat over an hour for the baby to die from this. Within 24 hours, labor will usually set in and the mother will give birth to a dead or dying baby. (There have been many cases of these babies being born alive. They are usually left unattended to die. However, a few have survived and later been adopted.) "


and you guys are telling me you wuold abort a child over and over if you had to so that you could save one of your own? Anyone who has an abortion makes me sick.

I guess there are a lot of people that would make you sick, but since medical records are confidential, you'll never know who they are.

there are on average over 3000 babies aborted everyday in the united states.

and this is supposed to do what exactly? shock me? frighten me? Cause some moral dilema? When you grow up and have children of your own, you might understand

Did you know that if you miscarry and the baby doesn't expel on it's own, they take the baby out? It's called a D&C if you were in the early stages of pregnancy when you miscarried. It's also counted among the abortion statistics, if I remember correctly.

Um, actually, you were the one who brought this up. I never said I'd abort a child over and over (is it actually possible to abort one child over and over?). My solution to needing to select the embryo that would be a compatible donor was to donate the remaining non-compatible embryos to the snowflake program, for embryo adoption by infertile couples who can't produce their own embryos.

If I had a child I would do everything I could to try and save it with out having to kill another child, abortion is murder. I would search far and wide and offer million $$ in payment for anyone to come forward with compatible bone marrow. Do you know in some phillipino countries they sell one of their kidney's for around $200USD? I would go there and offer thousands more to test other people in search of compatible bone marrow. Did you know that the success rate of a bone marrow transplant is noteven 60%? Usually people recieving a bone marrow transplant die before they can heal.

debating it with her is rather pointless, she doesn't have children of her own and has never had to make these kind of decisions. I would suggest she watch "John Q" with Denzel Washington

chances of embryo testing are so inaccurate it isn't funny. 50/50 pretty much and they've often said that they test positive for it and then eventually when the child is born, they were wrong and test negative.

First she says this:



Then she says this:



Make up your mind.

Also, buying organs is considered morally and ethically wrong.

I never said anything about abortion did I? I would give my own heart to save my sons if need be. Tell me would you be willing to kill another human being to save your own offspring?