Since when is Learning to Host is a education event!?!?!??!?!
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Usagi Musashi
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05-12-2006 04:14
From: Rhiannon Turner I will give you a simple answer to why he is attacking teasers, actually multiple choices.
1- Was turned down as an Instructor at TeaZers 2- Was replaced at a hosting job by a TeaZers trained Instructor 3- Runs a school of his own that is trying to compete with TeaZers 4- He is a troll
. 1.) I never applied 2.) I don`t have time to hold classes these days 3.) What? 4.) Your wrong. This thread is not about other cluds or island offering classes to get business from TeaZers........Its about the quility of education support being the issue. If Hosting is a worth while eductional event paying money, then so shouls sex 101, how to walk, how to make friends, how to run, and last but to least how to be a full time dancers........ This is turning out jst like event support like dance clubs had from LLabs for a long time. It was abused to the point they stopped it. And very soon educational support will fellow the same faith.......The sooner the better.
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Usagi Musashi
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05-12-2006 04:15
From: Warda Kawabata btw, just thought all you guys who are busy flaming Usagi mind what to know that Usagi is, in fact, a woman. You might want to check your pronouns. hahahahhaha thanks warda 
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Aarlon Montagne
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05-12-2006 05:37
This thread is not about other cluds or island offering classes to get business from TeaZers........Its about the quility of education support being the issue. If Hosting is a worth while eductional event paying money, then so shouls sex 101, how to walk, how to make friends, how to run, and last but to least how to be a full time dancers........ This is turning out jst like event support like dance clubs had from LLabs for a long time. It was abused to the point they stopped it. And very soon educational support will fellow the same faith.......The sooner the better.[/QUOTE] ok, spelling lesson: clubs, quality, should,not, just, follow grammar: clubs or islands; It's; quality of education, support being; a full time dancer; turning out like event support dance clubs had; Very soon (no and); will follow the same faith??? you seem to have a problem with subject verb agreement and sentence structure. There are other people who have made similar errors, but the quantity in this post flipped all my triggers.
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Usagi Musashi
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05-12-2006 06:00
sweet..........now go away..........
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Warda Kawabata
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05-12-2006 06:09
From: Aarlon Montagne ok, spelling lesson: clubs, quality, should,not, just, follow grammar: clubs or islands; It's; quality of education, support being; a full time dancer; turning out like event support dance clubs had; Very soon (no and); will follow the same faith???
Umm, with all duie respect (ie none), you need to pull your head out of a certain orifice. I know usagi isn't a native speaker of English, so any mistakles on her part can certainly be excused if it reaches the point of being understandable. As for any mistakes on my part, well, getting spelling right is my day job, and I come here to relax. I'm off duty. You want perfect spelling from me, that's 5000 yen an hour please, in advance. 
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Kasi Tandino
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05-12-2006 06:38
The first month of classes I attended in rl started with a week of me looking at mice, keyboards, the monitor! I had to type asdf jkl; repeatedly for weeks of repetitive typing tests. I thought to myself "omg, of course these people know where to plug in the mouse and how to 'point' with it!" I thought I was wasting my time and the instructors time with these rediculous exersizes. After all, I could already type 65wpm and I could put my own comp together..why did 'I' need this crap? Fact was, there were MANY people who had never opened up thier cpu case, didn't know that the mouse can point from the moving it on any surface (don't have to put it against the monitor to use it) and were extremely greatful that the WHOLE class was doing the typing exersizes together so they didn't feel isolated by thier inexperience.
People take classes to fill in the empty spot in their mind that doesn't UNDERSTAND..or to improve thier knowledge. I grew up in a hotel environment. I was running the front desk when I was 16 and had a permanent smile on my face even when I hated it. I was always 10 mins early or I felt late...there are MANY little pointers that I have learned over my lifetime that could prove invaluable to others. For instance, my ex husband could never figure out why I sounded so happy at work when he called...FAKE it till you make it.
Hosting is a hard job. You can't be the least bit shy, you have to learn to cover your mistakes quickly, you always have to be upbeat and "on". If you think you have the necessary skills to do all these things all the power to you. Many people aren't as perfect and need honing and inspiration from others. I'm sure the last thing anyone who was feeling good about themselves for passing on their knowledge was expecting was someone with no respect and full of themselves to come along and start a 7 page thread on why they don't "THINK" that other people should take courses on things THEY already know.
I would love to come to an event you planned Usagi. I would love to see you at work with all these natural skills you possess. I always love to watch people full of themselves stumble when asked to PRODUCE those special skills they claim to have.
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Introvert Petunia
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05-12-2006 07:37
From: Usagi Musashi If Hosting is a worthwhile eductional event paying money, then so should Sex 101, how to walk, how to make friends, how to run, and last but not least how to be a full time dancers........ So host Walking 101 and get a piece of the pie that seems so sour to you. Or would you rather just ruin someone else's activities instead? I don't think there is LL payment for disparaging someone else's events, but you could always apply. 笑顔
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Rhiannon Turner
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05-12-2006 09:19
This thread cracks me up, must be the continued IQ drop from reading it.
First off is her first language is not english I am sure she will appreciate the quality education Aarlon just gave her in proper grammar, since she is so hot and bothered by quality education.
Here is a simple class in economics 101
Supply and Demand
TeaZers supplies classes in Hosting
Option A- Plus side Demand
Classes are well attended TeaZers continues to offer the class No one is forced to attend SL gets hosts who know how to do more than call for naked hour every other contest
I for one rarely attend club events because most of them are the same recycled event over and over. TeaZers is teaching people how to host so that people like me will WANT to attend, thus increasing the revenue of the club, providing it with an opportunity for bigger events and facilities which in turn increases my interest in going. Its a nice "Circle of Life"
Option B- Negative side demand
Classes are not well attended TeaZers cancels the class Naked Hour continues and all the "women" in SL can continue to show off their breasts and live out their Priscilla Queen of the Dessert fantasy Usagi is happy World Peace is achieved The cure for Cancer is discovered to be massive amounts of SL Human contact in RL is sent plummeting to an all time low until we all live in the wonderful world of San Angeles thus curing aids in the process when it dies out from lack of new hosts to infect.
Explain to me why again you care? You have spent 8 pages debating a stupid and pointless argument. Advocating that limits be put on TeaZers as to what they teach.
And frankly 90% of the SL escorts could use Cyber 101
ooooohhh ahhhhhh doesnt qualify as good role play.
Cracks me up every time I wander into a club with sex rooms in earshot of the main club.
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Kasi Tandino
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05-12-2006 10:06
From: Rhiannon Turner
And frankly 90% of the SL escorts could use Cyber 101
ooooohhh ahhhhhh doesnt qualify as good role play.
Cracks me up every time I wander into a club with sex rooms in earshot of the main club.
I'm your neighbor Rhiannon, I get lessons from easedropping 
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Rhiannon Turner
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05-12-2006 10:12
you dont need to eavesdrop, come say hi *chuckles*
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Dragon Stryker
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05-12-2006 17:53
From: Usagi Musashi well it never fail when people continue to come in here without their #1 avie posting. again a worthless post. D- for not even trying I'm sorry, I didn't know this wasn't my #1 av. Nor did I know you were the almighty judge of which posts are worthless or not. Thank you for clearing that up for me. A+ for being close minded about other people's views. I'd like to give a thanks to all those that have posted, and even those who haven't, who understand the value of the classes we teach to new residents.
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Shirley Marquez
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05-12-2006 23:05
From: Artemis Fate or exceptionally stupid, like how to make your own bling (Here's an item. Here's a script. Drop the script in. Class dismissed! I was at a class about making bling earrings there once. There was significantly more to it than you describe. For one thing, you weren't given an item to drop the script into; you had to MAKE it first. Step by step... First, you made a worktable (just a big flat black prim, but a useful hint) so you wouldn't lose the earrings when you made them. Then you made an earring object (these were stud earrings, so they were just spheres, but you were also taught how to use the numeric controls to size them, which not everybody in class knew). Then you put a texture in the earring. Only after all that did you get around to dropping in the script, which was probably the simplest part of the exercise. Finally, you copied the earring (so you would have a pair), renamed the two objects so you could tell them apart, attached them to the appropriate points on your avatar, and adjusted them to look right. Now, to be fair, at the time I attended the class I already knew most of that stuff (other than the worktable trick); I was mostly there to pick up the bling script and jewelry textures. But a new player would have learned quite a few things -- basic prim creation, using the size controls, adding a texture, choosing attachment points for objects (rather than just wearing them), adjusting worn objects. Really quite enough for what is billed as a beginner's class.
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Terra Orman
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05-13-2006 08:43
From: Shirley Marquez But a new player would have learned quite a few things -- basic prim creation, using the size controls, adding a texture, choosing attachment points for objects (rather than just wearing them), adjusting worn objects. Really quite enough for what is billed as a beginner's class. As a new player I spent a few days on Help Island messing with prims, but I still got a lot out of the TU "Build a Japanese Table" class, even though it was very basic. I am certain that I would have eventually figured out most of the stuff on my own but getting a walk-through of some "obvious" stuff was great. Things that are obvious to someone who's used a modeling program before may not be obvious to the rest of us. What a great tip, to build a worktable to work on things little like earrings (lost an earring in a sand box a couple of days ago and had to wait for it to reappear in lost and found). I might or might not have thought of this on my own eventually, but sometimes it's the little stupid stuff that hangs up us newbies more than the complex stuff. Out in the physical world there are lots of books on how to host parties, so maybe it's not something that comes naturally to every person. Different people pick up different things quickly. A friend of mine didn't realize that you can make clothes using the Appearance setting, which boggles my mind. Another friend (who's a games programmer and so not naturally clueless about these things) is still having issues with implementing the lag reducing tips. Heck, I'm all for classes on how to use Touch balls and Kiosks, considering the number of new people I've seen struggling with those things. So Hurrah for TU and all their "stupid" classes, and Hurrah to UM and SL Community College and everyplace else that offers classes of any kind. If we're worried about funding abuse, then surely there'd be a way to implement a simple headcount on the classes? Only get paid for classes that people actually attend or something like that? Usually word gets around and if a class is truly badly taught, useless or somehow not good, people stop going. Terra, not quite a month old in SL yet
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Sensual Bliss
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05-13-2006 16:30
Having had the misfortune of attending an event hosted by Usagi, signs her up for Teazer's Hosting Class.
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Helen Dayton
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05-15-2006 09:56
From: Terra Orman If we're worried about funding abuse, then surely there'd be a way to implement a simple headcount on the classes? There is, Terra.... it's called an Event Recorder which we have to run at the start of every class. it records everyone who attends, and reports back to TU and Linden Labs after the class is ended. We only get paid if it records 5 or more people attending..... any less, no pay. 
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Lina Pussycat
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05-15-2006 11:06
ok usagi lemme break this out lol in total. Firstly Its a class on how to do things. You can be taught to host and it is a viable thing to teach but the fact is you cant be taught to host well thats still up to you. Teazers in facts takes a small cut and LL does pay teazers island a fee of 500L per class but a cut is taken b4 it is given to the instructor from what i understand. I think it is viable that LL will keep offering the service into the future. You must also consider the fact this is 500L to teach a group of people which can range quite a bit in Size. You need a certain number of people to attend to get paid i assume. The fact is if they charged by head and charge 100L per person it'd still be viable and would actually pay more. I teach one on one lessons myself. I refused a job at teazers because i felt 500L an hour was to much for a newbie to afford. I do charge a fee for the service of 1 on 1 lessons mind you its 250L a one time fee even a total newbie can afford. Now i will sit there and go thru it for an entire day till they get it and we end up with a finished product. If it streams into taking longer it takes longer. In fact most people are happy enough with how i do things that i often make 500L off it anyways per person. i take the time and i care to teach them and i like doing it for the joy of teaching but i do like to shop at the same time. Im not a volunteer instructor for LL and what i teach is a unique method i made up. It may seem like capatilization but i end up just giving the money back out to the community anyways as i do help run a club. Club Republik that is. We run at a loss and we intended to. That may seem a bit odd to some people. But we made the club because we loved the music. Now like alot of places we do offer escort services. This was simply due to the fact i'd like to offer more for the girls then simply escorting. While they are there they are welcome to learn ask questions ask for support etc. We run a Dj apprenticeship program as well which is run free of charge by our resident DJ Andre Nico. If we feel you have the right dedication and have something taht is workable and your serious about it you get trained. We offer alot and help out newbies as much as we can. In fact a girl recently has called me her mentor for helping her out. Its all about helping people in the long run be it for a small charge or not. Alot of things to learn are viable skills that can ultimately make you money that people volunteerily teach. LL pays them sure but its not much when you look at it on a per person basis. I do find it viable to teach to host. But again its just my opinion 
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