Since when is Learning to Host is a education event!?!?!??!?!

well i did have fun working for you guys
That was a long time again and a hell of a drama you guys played ehehh.

But really hosting is about experince which you can`t reproduce in a event educational setting......
Gesh all jokes aside how inthe world can LLabs pay for this junk!

The avatar was born Feb 2006 ... but that doesn't mean the avatar's owner was.

If the avatar's owner is an events manager *in real life* or has significant real life hosting then you CAN expect a three month old avatar to be able to teach hosting.

We bring our life experiences into the game on the very first day! I was scripting working basic vehicles from scratch as early as the second day. But there are some who have been around for years but can't do that. I know my programming, I know my physics, I know my prim building ... and I knew all of these before I entered second life.

Very good point and its assumed that she is not new. But Thats another problem.....This person is using teazers as a platform to abuse the education system with this alt. Why not use her first avie? maybe there is problem with LLabs blacklist maybe? Well Again LLabs seems to be losing touch with what is being paid for. Hel! I teach people for free... And I been doing it all my life.....

Having been to plenty of events in which the host/hostess spent half their time afk, or whose chat was too laden with typos to understand, or who were just too shy to really make themselves noticed, or (and this is the worst) behaved outragously innappropriately (swearing at people, demanding tips, etc)..... I have to disagree with you Usagi.

I can definately see how a class like this, given the instructor is good at his/her job, could be really beneficial to some people.

I have taken public speaking courses in school and have found them extremely valuable at various times in my life. I feel the things I learned in those courses have helped me in job interviews, meetings I've held... and believe it or not... events I've held in SL. I see this hosting course the same way.

As I see it, the only people who should be judging whether this course or any other course has value are the people taking it. If they walk away feeling more confident and more able to successfully host an exciting event, then the instructor has done her job well.

Usagi, this crusade you've launched is stupid. Educational support is hardly big money and you are being so petty and presumptive here its making you look like a fool.

Don't be a fool.

I'm relatively new to the community. I may be able to program a screaming vehicle but I am not familiar with what the "teazers" is.

If you feel it's abuse then do cite sober and thought out reasons why it is so. Since I don't know "teazers" I didn't comment on that part. But your main post did attack the fact that a "new" avatar was teaching, which to me was absolutely strange because its owner may be 40+ years old and very experienced in the subject matter. Do cite the reasons you feel it's abuse.

We bring real-life knowledge into the game so for some people it's just a matter of learning how real life and second life differ. Those who study it intently might be able to learn the nuances in as little as a day, some maybe a week. But the idea is the new person needs only to study the differences and not the whole subject matter.

I know spelling is a problem when your handling about 40 or more members in a club and you need o worry about problems. But That my point you can`t recreate a setting to simulates a extreem setting....... You learn on the job not by someone giving you pointers on BLA BLA BLA.........Hell I worked for some jerk that did not even give me a host title or their card ( COUGH COUGH ) and i had a hell of a time dealing wih problem.........Those problems you can`t teach otehrs..... Its about skill and learnign onthe fly not like build a cube where one is shown by a instructor to mold and change its form......
I am sorry and Its not like i don`t think you have some good points, but LLabs really needs to be alittle more picky when choosing what is and what is not quility education events.......

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Those are pretty nice words you say, alot of friends you have a?
I just bringup up the issue about education and hosting do they match?

Read the whole topic replies ok? Its always nice when people like this troll the boards to get a raise out of someone

Sounds like it could be a valid class to me. There is a lot of thought that goes into good hosting. And there are definitely nuts and bolts things that people could learn, like how to post an event.

I used to be in charge of scheduling games for Akasha Village and we trained people when we hired them as hosts.

Anyway, ditto what Aaron said. I would drop this, you are making yourself look foolish.

This whole thread topic is a troll.

Oh well just like all other infor threads if you don`t agree flame and abuse.....Nice forum we have............

A couple more points before I log Usagi.

You said that the class is being taught at Teazers. Well Teazers hires and pays instructors who haven't yet gotten into the LL instructor group. So you don't actually know at this point whether LL has agreed this is a valuable class and is paying the instructor, or if it's just Teazers she works for.

Yes most things require skill and learning on the fly, but having a few pointers in advance can speed up that learning process and create the skills one doesn't already have naturally.

A creative writing class could be incredibly valuable to someone who has some writing skill and would like to go somewhere with it. Before the class all he has is some skill and the desire. After the class he has skill, desire + techniques and tools he can use to build his skills even higher.

A singing class will have very little value to someone who is tone deaf and can't sing in the shower without breaking the shower door glass. But to someone who has some natural ability, the breathing techniques and musical cues they can learn in the class could make them an amazing singer.

Everything has value to someone somewhere. The fact that it doesn't to you, doesn't make that any less true.

YES THEY MATCH. Where the hell do you think the teachers in the world come from? They go to friggen' classes and learn HOW to be teachers.

You aren't even listening to anyone in this thread. NEW USERS would LOVE and in some cases NEED a class like this. In fact, as I said, a class like this was the very first thing I EVER did when I joined Second Life.

I see a class where a person learns how to properly conduct events, how to add events to the calendar, how to advertise and promote their events, and anything else have to do with events as a VALID class experience that can have positive results.

You have a low threshold for abuse, especially since you seem perfectly willing to pile abuse on this person who thought it might be a kewl idea to put together a class on hosting.

Good grief, this thread is absolutely pointless. I'm really not sure what the original poster's problem is, or why something like "event 101" should cause them to get into such a kerfuffle.

But then, people will moan about anything and everything.

@Usagi

One more thing. There are entire organizations dedicated to such things. One of them is Toastmasters (est 1924) an international organization that teaches, through doing, communication and leadership. Emceeing is one of the learning projects available, there's even an entire manual of 5 projects dedicated to storytelling!

Some other TI projects that you might think need no education:

Ambush interview
Icebreaker (introducing yourself)
Introducing a speaker
Accepting an award
Giving an award
Demonstration (as in showing off a product or process)


... so why not Hosting?

I dont really see what your beef is here Usagi. Anyone can find things in SL they might consider less than essensial, but its really not worth being agitated over. Hosting is, unargueably, a large part of SL and good hosting is something that is part nature, and part learned tricks and techniques. As for the hosting/building arguement, I cant say much for hosting, but Ive never had a problem finding people happy to give tips on prim manipulation, sometimes even when I wasnt nessessarially looking for tips. All in all, you seem to take the whole thing far too seriously, relax a bit, SL is intended for enjoyment.

I am an Instructor at TeaZers University and can tell you that all instructors there have to complete applications to be official LL Instructors before being allowed to take classes. There are some instructors under training, and may well take a class as part of their training, but are always under supervision of a qualified instructor. TeaZer's University instructors are paid (indirectly) from Linden Labs, but part of our payment goes towards future development of TU, which I hope continues to be a respectable part of SL's learning program. Learning to Host is just as important as learning to build, and I see nothing wrong with a class of this nature.

I'm so fracking SICK of "HOWWWWLLLL!!!!!""

I'm going to start putting howlers on my ignore list.

Speaking in my RL role as a teacher, I can say that hosting, as specific subset of public speaking, is an important skill that is woefully under-represented in teh public education system.

In any case, the class under discussion could be referring not to teh general social skills side of event hosting, but to teh SL interface side of things, such as posting an event correctly. In which case it is at least as valid by your own crieria as prim torture classes.

Posting is suppose to be provided by owner of the club. a format to follow..Hence the host need to to worry. ( thats if the owner knows what he or she is doing. The education system is better off without these types of classes.

There hasnt been anyone in 4 pages that has agreed with you, why do you keep insisting on trying to change what people are saying to make it side with you... and since when does the owner have to post?

Hey you long time anyways anyone can pickway at information posted and start a bitch fit like some are doing to this post.....But as you know hosting is about alot more then waht is lead to believe here. You can`t just if one or two pointers and expect to know the ins and outs of hosting. What is suppose top be nice about forums is the ability to share thoughts without being bashed to dealth after a posting.........Freedom of speach ITS GREAT

Sorry, but didn't you start this thread with "pickway at information posted and start a bitch fit". I'm confused. You seem to be everything you accuse others of being

oops did someone say something??????

closes this thread its junked.thanks for posting. move on tot he next new thread.......