Since when is Learning to Host is a education event!?!?!??!?!

I really, really, really don't understand you. In fact, I think you're quite disconcerting.

Given the quality of some event hosts in Second Life, this is a valid class.

Now I'm confused. You admit hosting can't be taught with just a few pointers, but don't see a class to teach hosting as valid? Not being able to tech somone to host in a few sentences is exactly why a class to help people learn to host is a good idea!

Time inworld does not denote skill. We bring our RW skills into SL, so while you may have that 1y7m worth of learning inworld, that "noob" might have 30y of learning in the RW. Being inworld longer isn't a badge or trophy anymore than having a premium account over a basic. When it's said and done, neither mean anything.

I applaud the people doing this. Well, as long as they're being reasonable on prices. They are offering thier skills to help others, while making a bit of profit doing it. Why is this different from selling other goods and services?

And yes, some people DO need help on learning to walk in SL. The current movement system has a very clumsy interface. Also, hosting is NOT as easy as you say. If you think it is, then perhaps you should take the classes offered and learn to do it properly.

Ta-ta,
~Jessy

Gonna add my 2 cents...except since it doesn't jive w/ the OP I'm certain she will dismiss it.

Hosting IMO does need to be 'on the job training' but w/ that said there are some things that just NEED to be known.

There are some crappy hosts out there, but there are also some fabulous ones.

If a class is gonna spend sometime giving tips and tricks for this kind of thing what's the big deal? Now if I see a class entitled Cybersex and Poseballs 101 I may I may have to rethink that

Yeah you say that Usagi. I went to it purely because I happened to be awake at an ungodly hour UK time and thought 'why not'. It confirmed what I knew.

However for other people it was a complete introduction.

Now, clearly *I* was BORN with the skills that make a great hostess, never mind that I have been playing for a few weeks only (if you knew me you mgiht well agree some people just get the hang of things from the get-go). Not everyone is as confident as I am, or happy to make a complete idiot of themselves just to keep the party going.

I'm not even doing it for the money, just to be there for friends.

However, I met someone at the class today who was a much more experienced host than me and we are discussing a little business deal as a result. So, maybe not your standard thing to have a class like this but then again ANYTHING should be possible in SL, right?

Now this thread qualifies the OP as a certificated instructor of Trolling 101.

Have you attended one? Do you know what Teazerz is? Do you know how they are funded?

I can tell from your tirade the answers: no, no, and no, respectively.

I audited part of one once out of curiousity. You have absolutely no idea what you are complaining about. Other than that, you've got a great point.

Usagi, you are just echoing what is happening in RL in my country. There is people in my country doing golf-course management and soap-opera direction courses( I personally knew someone doing this lol)...and the government is paying for it!!! Its a crazy world but a 'qualified' one.

Usagi, did you actually attend the class about which you have such a strong opinion?

Oh, and just for the record, Instructors only get paid if 5 or more people attend the class. So if a class is universally seen to be pointless, noone will acutally bother going, will they?

I should have just too reinforce how lame this class was. But Really can you honestly say this class would be worthly of education value? Some joke and flame their little brains out here. Whats next how to walk as a educational class? Oh boy

Deportment classes I think still exist occasionally in RL. The SL analog, using/making animation overriders, would certainly be classworthy.

But, I've also had RL teaching experience. Like a lot of RL teachers, I thought it could just be learned by experience. Then a new employer told me point-blank I needed to get a qualification, so I went and studied teaching for a year and was amazed by how much I learned. I probably could have learned it by experience, but I'd have short-changed a few generations of students in the meantime.

Um very good remark! There is some good coming out of this after all......RL teaching is diff then this this hosting class I believe. RL you have people that look to you as asource of future learning abilities. This class offers well nothing of real value then a few fast points which you learn fast anyways during your first hosting job......
But really good thoughts Thank you

Ok, I'm sorry but this one just got to me. I overlooked the first time the teacher mispelled "teh" but the 2nd and 3rd I just couldn't! Sorry Warda...I just couldn't resist since this thread stopped making sense two pages ago.

Nicely said. I also haven't seen anywhere who developed the instructional materials. Maybe Teazers already has the course materials set up.

Regardless, before commenting on a class for good or ill, I would take it first. Speculating on a vacuum is the same as multiplying by zero.

In terms of consequences you're right - some people having a bad time at a party isn't as significant as them losing out on a part of education (although having a good time in SL is a good way to get people to stay around and learn stuff!).

But in terms of skills they're pretty similar. And, I doubt very much that it "offers nothing of real value" - I don't actually know for sure, I haven't seen the syllabus or been there - but there certainly is plenty of stuff it could offer. I've been hosting an event weekly for a few months and there are still a few situations I get stuck with (the most common being "everyone's standing around waiting for other people to show up". Actually, when is this class?

I saw that too....... But he is forgiven he a furry you kmow.I am joking

There are so many issues that can`t be reproduced its not even worth the time to attent one of these classes. Gesh My very first hosting job was one hell of a experience! I knew nothing but it was a experience i never forget It was about fun and the learning process Real Value in the terms RL and SL are diff.......

So there were things you learned about hosting? Sounds like maybe you could put those lessons learned into a syllabus and teach a class.

Usagi, I also see some possible merit in this type of course. While it's true that some aspects of event hosting must be learned by experience to be fully understood, there are some questions newbies might ask, such as:

Where do I post the event?
Should I expect to get paid by the club owner, or by tips?
What do I do if someone brings a gun to the event?
Is it okay to ask people to remove attachments if the lag gets too bad?
Should I point out my tip jar, or just let people find it by themselves?
Should I announce to the club if I need to go AFK?

These may seem like basic questions to you, but to relative newbies, they might not be. Event hosts deal with questions like this and more, and some clubs don't give their hosts set policies to follow. If the TeaZers class addresses these sorts of things, then I can only see it as a good thing. Better prepared hosts = less room for event disaster.

OMG total melt down if not nothing is understood at the start yes that is correct. But then again owners have their own set of rules, and those that are covered might NOT be void to the owners wishes to run the event.. TeaZers in the most part is a great place to learn i said this i my past post in another issue.

You know I never said I was a expert Love Nor did i ever say I would run classes like this.What I did saw SAY I do help those that ask me about how to host and i do it for free...........Enough said..........

LOL this post is still running. Can tell the grid is offline

People are strange when the grid is down