"Those who use SL for income deserve what they get"-Do you share this attitude?

Greedy Baron.

Hush, it paid for Sonic's braces! Did you want my cat to have a crooked smile?

Great comments from just about everyone here, and great post, Torrid.

My response to those who say, "Anyone relying on Second Life for income is STOOPID!" is... we take work where we can get it, and if you enjoy it, all the better. Would you have said, "Anyone relying on a job with a dot-com company is STOOPID!" in the late '90s or early '00s? I highly doubt it. Yet, those jobs had the same amount of long term stability as anyone making their living off of Second Life today.

Take it a step further... would you have told the employees of Tyco, Enron or Worldcom that they're STOOPID for earning money? That they DESERVED to lose their retirement funds? Of course not. Saying it here is RUDE, IGNORANT, and makes you look like an ASSHOLE if you say it.

Saying people deserve to have their code stolen just because Second Life is a newer environment is ricockulous. It makes me wonder if we're suffering an invasion of idiots into Second Life akin to what AOL did to the IntarWEBS in the mid-90s.

OMGOMGOMG A/S/L!?!?!?!!!

-Flip

If my panties don't fit I can resize them to allow room for your hoo-hoo dilly.

As do I. I do want it to be known that I've been reading what you post and I'd say in general I agree with 90%+ of what you say. I think in general alot of this does not apply to you or as mentioned earlier certain other people that post in these forums. I think these "morons" are a 10% group or less that seem to call "chicken little" everytime the economy turns down .0000000000001% of a penny less then what THEY WANT.

Now that is customer service. Actually, you should market that service to the "ladies" of SL

Wait, we get to see Cristiano's junk???? Where?

hehe, true that. There's always a percentage of people that will completely freak out over any change, exchange rate or otherwise, even if it's minor.

OMG OMG OMG Chip's post count just increased! THE SKY IS FALLING!

I'm pretty sure when I hit 6k it will tear a hole in the fabric of space/time

Timothy didn't say that money was evil. He said that the love of money was. And actually, capitalist pig that I am, I can agree with that. I tend to think that it's altogether best not to love material things - but to love people, instead.

Not to derail the topic, though ...

It's nice that SL brings me a little extra money here and there. I do not rely on it to pay my bills (although, it has bailed me out more than once when I've been short due to an emergency, etc) but I find nothing wrong with those that are earning enough to support themselves. I do sincerely hope that these fine folks have contingency plants in place for if/when the bottom drops out, and frankly, yes, it would be silly not to have plans in place.

I think that the vast majority of those clever enough to earn that much money in SL are clever enough to know that they need something to "fall back on."

It leaves quite a bitter taste in my mouth to see people just throw out comments such as those Torrid has mentioned in her post. The "it's just a game" comments have the same effect on me. I can login to WoW (and do so quite frequently lol) and chat with all the people in the area where I'm hunting. I can group and play with them. But I have never, not once, formed the kind of friendships that I have in SL with anyone I've met in WoW.

Regardless, though, of whether or not you consider SL "just a game," there are very real people on the other side of the screen. Even if I found fault with using SL for income, I would not, and could not in good conscience, turn to them and say, "If SL goes down in flames and terrible things happen to you because of it, you deserve it!"

The last time I saw Chip, he didn't *have* a hoo-hoo dilly.

Whatever that is.

This is tremendously good advice, and not just within SL. One should plan software systems with SOME degree of optimism, but always with the realization that spectacular failures are practically guaranteed in anything of sufficient complexity. It's why people buy insurance, and why cars are built with "firewalls" between the engine and passenger compartments.

It's detachable

Good post Torrid.

As a person who has walked into work, only to be told that the job (and dozens of others in the company) are gone, we will escort you to your desk.. bye, bye....

And who has had an airline go bankrupt while I still held tickets....

Nothing in life is certain.

But even more important to my mind.. Why the hell do you care how I make a living. My business.. get you're pointy nose out.

I say if you can make a living playing SL then Fair play, I am jelous and envyous.... the only reason Im out of the world is because of RL responcibilitys, I hate my RL job, but it pays the bills, and will eventually bankroll my piece of land my little Virtual house.. I dont ask much of my second life only that it entertain me... but I dont begrudge any Av his/her talent in world... its they who make it as fun as it is.

Very well said Torrid. (Hats off to you)



As another content creator for SL, I have lots of respect for people that can make a living off of what they make and sale in SL. To me this means that they are good at what they do and take pride in there products that they produce and will help you with any problems that you have with there product. I know this cause I have had to get somethings fixed by a few people, and did not hear any bitching about it, or just telling me to goto H&LL that it was my problem not theirs. Because of this I am a faithfull shopper of this person's products. I do the same thing for what I make, and alot of times I have to do custom fittings since some people have trouble getting attachments to attach correctly to their avator. I make all prim jewelry and will make any minor chances at no extra charges, and I have been doing this since I first started making jewelry back in April of 2004. What I do make in $L does not cover my land use every month, but it does provide me with extra income for vacations, unexcepted expenses, and just fun money when I want it. I am happy to hear that people can make a livving off of what they do, and I wish them continued success and luck in their ventures.

KEEP ON PRODUCING HIGH QUALITY PRODUCTS

Both should suck it up and STFU. personally I think left and right "winged" people shouldbe gagged. They see one side and not both and usually (but not always) are blind to the other side.

I suggest all the ladies just come to my place tonight once I get in game. We can all relax, get nekkid, and "unwind" in a much more productive manner.

Nice invite Foulcault, I'll be beachside in Batak, listening to Nala Galatea from 6-8, yer welcome to come over and strip down, as is anyone who wants to have fun. We can debate or not, see what happens!

I'm a night freak. I won't even be home till 9:00 PM SL time most likly and won't get done eating babies..I mean dinner and logged in till 9:30 PM SL time

Everyone who makes a RL profit from SL deserves to be spanked.... by me.

Please schedule and report for your 6.5 minute spanking at my land in Gallinas.


Thanks in advance, and all praise Dwellnor!

Siggy.

This sums up exactly what I was thinking. I dabbled once in SL business and frankly, it sucked the joy out of my SL. I applaud those who enjoy making a living here. How many of us get up in the morning and dread the day ahead of us?

Chip said he downplays the earnings he makes here in order to avoid the backlash. And while I understand why he does it, I think it sucks that he HAS to do it. People who resent the success of individuals in SL are plainly jealous. We should be applauding each others efforts, not mouthing off on why it's so unfair. Just MHO...

The internet is just a fad I tell ya!!!

Aimee was talking to me. Oh no, once again someone has confused Chip and I

I tell people all the time, Chip is the one who makes Tringo, I sell hair and sex toys. And for the record, we both have hoo-hoo dillies.