Newbie Camping

Yes, and everything was still there while you were there.. He was there removing the signs of the griefers.. I called LL..

Don't lie. When I flew in there first time there were many camping dance pads, 1 min later you were there with Micheal Linden (in a cool octopus av). Anyways, I came by and saw only one dance pad was left, the one some chick was afking on. Everything else was gone.

Then later on that too was removed.

I was there the whole time and saw it, it was much later than you banned me (when I was on the Linden road talking to you).

The point is I opened up in a dead sim with hardly any people in it.. It had alot of unused space for avatars. The point is I use the most effective business model the current system allows me and do it more ethically than most. I've never allowed a sim to be maxed out and constantly make adjustments to make it the case.. I also create my own content and nearly everything in my place was 100% made by me.

Your land is worth MORE with me there, you may not want to be next to a popular place, but then again, why did you move in? You simply distain camping chairs and decided to use this method to start your crusade...

The point is I predate just about everyone complaining about my presence, you chose to move into a busy neighborhood, you crashed my neighborhood, I didn't crash yours..

The inappropriate signs were removed, everything else remained the same.. There was only one camping pad in use, but they were all still there.. and still are..

I always love to hear a new person so eager to learn Ivory Tower is incredible place to get the basics. I wish thay had it back in my day. Theres also a great one on aprticles (wish I remembered name off top head :/ )

You said you plan to take some classes. I cant stress enuff what a useful resource that is. Even as a expereinced builder I swing in when dont have anything to do and take few them. Honestly I seldom learn something; but there is times I either see a technique never seen or found on my own, or am reminded of something I knew and havent used in awhile. The best part is the class supplies! Between some the freebie balls out there and the class supplies from Teazer classes.... ya in the gold. Couple classes, couple freebie texture kits, lil determination and a new person could go from knowing nothing and being able to build marketable furniture in less then a day.

Where OH where was teazers when I started... if over look the fact that LL seems to have forgoten what made SL great, and certain recent choices make it look like they trying to destroy it.... it is a great time to be here.

You own 1/8th of the sim. The sim can only handle 40 people. 1/8th of 40 is 5 people, that's the max num of people you should have if you are being a nice camping guy. Otherwise go to your own freaking Island.

There are other people liveing in the sim.

You placed camping dance pads which would be used by AFK campers.

Your campers lag out and lock out the sim to those people who actually spent money and bought land in the sim.

Tell me how this is fair?

PS: AFK dinner.

Im allowed 5, yet your land is 1/4th my size and your allowed 3? Sound fair.. To you..

Not argueing with the sentiment behind the post. I totally agree. Camping chairs and such are symptoms of the disease thats destroying the SL I remember and loved.

Im just curious if thats accurate. Does it cost 40 cents a hour in power to run a modern comp?! I thought a computers impact on power was low. <runs to grab powerbill> I havent turned off my comp cept for a reboot in like 4 months

5 camping constantly dude, which part of this don't you understand? A sim can only handle 40 or 30 people depending on how it's configured. And that number is on an ideal system, apparently you feel you can take all 40 slots in the sim.

Sigh. I love how you accuse me of having 40 people in the sim when the sim only holds 30.. You are totally making crap up.. There is at most 12-15 people camping AT PEAK, and only about 5-6 constantly..

Actually the estate tools says it's set to 40. Not to cause any trouble but go to tools-> reigon/estate and look at the agent limit.

Your right, it is 40 now. It was only 30 a few weeks ago. Thats awesome! My god man, there is no way on earth you were locked out of that sim with a 40 avatar limit. The most I've ever seen in that sim was 24 when everyone has people on their land.

Don't sweat it man. I've decided that every time I see camping chairs in your area in use I'm just filing an abuse report complaining that you're launching a denial-of-service attack against the simulator as stated here:



I don't need signs any more. I have a new toy.

Be careful with gratuitous ARs, thay can be ARed as harassment too. Here's how I suggest you proceed.

Is the casino next to a sim border, or better, a corner? Learn your way around the sim stats window, especially the total frame time item. Take measurements, screen grabs anything until you can prove a significant loss of sim performance due to the presence of the camp chairs. File your AR with that.

Communicate with neighbours: if you can't get in and a neighbour is in, get them to take a grab of the mini-map and the sim stats tracker showing the number of Main Agents in the sim.

Linden Labs may find the camp chairs are fine and dandy. If they do, they've just opened up another interesting angle to work with. The camp chair war.

I'm getting the impression that you and your neighbours outnumber the casino owner many to one, and are in communicaiton with one another. Form a group, your power is in numbers. Place camp chairs that pay more than the casino camp chairs. Make it artistic. Maybe even place your own slots that tie into the camp chairs. The point of having campers all over the property is to show up high on the Popular Places in Search. Do this not even 24/7, but three-four days a week in unison with your neighbours in the same sim and the casino will drop off the Popular Places like a rock.

For extra fun, make it a roaming camping experience, set up the chairs in such a way that they will eject the occupant after say, 30-90 minutes. 'To encourage the exploration of the most interesting camp chairs in Second Life.' So, in addition to full chairs, you will have roaming avatars waiting for an empty chair. (Because you pay more than the casino.)

Keep at it until you run the casino out of town or the casino owner whines about his neighbours squeezing them out with too many camp chairs. (In which case the list of delicious things you can say to their face is endless.)

~Kami

ahahaha!

Perfectly stated.

I put this into SL answers:

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Ha! Just 20? Where I'm at it's 30!

The funny/sad thing is, the person who built him his casino is getting stabbed in the back in the process, her mall is lagged all to hell, the textures on the vendors won't load. Further to this, I got asked to take down my physics lab because it was causing lag! Mebbe I should build a functioning roller coaster if a prototype lotto ball scrambler isn't fair to the neighbours.

~Kami, now physics enabled

I couldn't agree more.
I was unable to get onto may land recently, for the first time, due to two clubs in my region which have set up camping chairs. i was furious.
I had to *bang* against the region until someone dropped out and I was able to fly in [ see: http://bloghud.com/id/505/ ]


BTW: where can I find the official post about the removal of dwell? As I am considering (reluctantly) to transfer over to an island and would like to know (and be able to inform others about) the incentives there.

thx

Koz
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