So someone is selling large and illegal prims that they stole from me.

I've always wondered why they limited prim size to 10X10X10? I mean, most 512m2 can handle a 20X20X20 or less. And I'd love to reduce the number of prims in the floor by half, since they won't give us more prims to work with without raising our tiers. This is my entertainment budget and it's not much, so paying more tier is out. *shrug* Oh, well, I'll manage.

I think it has to do with the fact the edges of each simulator have about 10m of "handoff" space. Basically, they use this region to pass items from one sim to the next without noticeable errors.

Ahhhh.. forgot that part. And with them still having problems with border crossings, I can see the problem. Thank you.

I think another reason is simply that, as I understand it, these prims required a client-side hack to make and they want to discourage people from doing that.

(Does this mean that soon the sims will again ring with the dying cries of "Bad Geometry"? )

I remember reading an article about an online game which had the policy that anyone who benefitted from a bug would be allowed to keep their gains from it after reporting it, thus encouraging people to report bugs. Unfortunately what it had let to was a situation where (paraphrased): "the game's administrators, and their bug reporting system, have become the tools of exploiters. They search for bugs, find one, exploit it mercilessly and once they have all they want, they report it thus closing the opportunity for others."

Allowing someone to continue using, or especially to sell, outsize prims is just asking for everyone else who's able to do so to start hacking the newer client releases to bits hoping to be the one who discovers a glitch like this and can profit from it before it's dealt with - same as with the God Mode hack. LL I think are going to have to adopt a firm policy on this soon, in order to deal with the problems it could cause for the SL market: either anyone can do it with the current client as provided by LL, or it's ARable.

These things sound like the perfect way to grief and harass your neighbours!

These large prims came from a libsl hack, because it was discovered that 10x10x10 was a limit on the client side, not the server. Of course, LL fixed that now, but it's only on edit/creation that it's checked, allowing largeprims to still exist.
I think that they're cool and all, but thet can be used to greif, and they could interact with the physics engine and region crossing.

I can think of many good uses for a large prim as such. LL really should increase the prim scale limits to atleast 50 or 100. Also if the prim is over a special limit it shouldn't be possible to enable physics to prevent danger. However Gene, one of my friends handed me a no transfer copy of a 256x256x1 prim that listed you as the creator. i was about to IM you asking how, till i did some research of my own. It's no longer possible to do this but that person on SLX is making a prophet from the leftovers.

Well if my friend got his copy of the prim from that SLX shop, he obvously used a no transfer hack to give it to me... Do you perhaps know my friend Sha? Anyway i can see why LL wants these prims gone, but they do have good uses. FOr instance, arent you tired of using tons of prims to make a dance floor or large on a floating island? I know i would prefer to use a unlimited prim like this instead of wrapping 50 prims. Also this will help keep newbies out of your skybox. make it full alpha and place it about 100m below your skybox.

Wakeup Foolish

Do anything????

Fly a plane uhm not unless you want to lag out on sim lines
Shoot a good, maybe if you don't mind your sims time dilation dropping with each shot
Have a pvp event, only if you limit it to very few people
Watch a film, maybe if your all in sync and half of you don't crash
walk around your own sim that IS below 23ms scrpts and only using 10k of objects (all scripts low lag) Without lagging and stuttering on a P4 3.4mhz with 2gb of ddr2 ram and an ATI 800 256mb card
Ability to ban more than 63 idiots in your estate system..
Sign your sim as mature and do naughty stuff and expect Lindens to keep the under aged out ??
I could go on but you very much should get my point

Huge prims would to me be an amazingly fun tool on my own sim island

I'd love to play with them and make huge robots without needing 500 odd prims

Your right Yiffy, I would love to put up a second level in my sim at 290m as a flat race track even with the lag and a single prim would be amazing for this

Someone rezzed a 1024*1024 flat prim up above my sky house at 700 m.

It felt like I was in "Independence Day".

I actually notified the first seller of these large prims that what they are doing is wrong, and they sent me a snarky IM in-game saying that he and Sha have been selling these for a while now for a good profit. It just disgusts me that people are so greedy.

That strikes me as ALOT of unneeded code. Why not at the point someone clicks return on a prim if they fail permissions check it runs a check for permissions over every plot the prim is over. Instead of doing the bounds check hourly do it at the point someone trys to remove it.

Yup. You're hyper all right.

Lay off the decaf and you should be fine!



As to the rest. may want to re-read my post, and think about my phrasing. I said:



I SAID that the 'do anything' term was a bit off the mark. I just said that his opinion in this case was a mild bit unfair. We then discussed it, and we decided it was a moot point.

Now shoo! You're scaring the children!

I'm so tempted to buy these, just so I'd have them... even if just as a curiosity.

However I'm not going to. Mostly because the seller seems to be a rather annoying person.

I'd like them too, but there's no way I'd pay 500 for something that could get me into trouble and I couldn't use.

Geez I want them too but the fact that it could get me in trouble just by having one rezzed is a big deterrent. Why don't the Lindens just clamp down the source of these illegal prims? Just ban the users selling them and get a list from SLX of the purchasers.

Most people won't know it's "illegal" to use them.

Yeah. There is that part too.

I just wish the "could" was turned into "will", or "won't".

"SLX Sales Rank : #3"

These are not going away!

Well that's one way to make some Linden(s) drop work on whatever they're coding at the moment and waste time on putting prim dimensions check in the rezz code, or whatever o.O;

I'm afraid that everybody misses the point. It is the issue that someone stole another's prims and is selling them, isn't it?
Do Lindens think that it is the fault of the person stolen them? Or are they waitng when the stealing person sends his money to his alt to ban them all and get all money as a sink?

This is sad news. Sha hasn't exactly been the most trustworthy lately. i still like her as a friend, but shes done some bad things like try to break my mate and i up. :/ I found a good use for the prims though. i've been working on a large sky dome with a parallax moving sky that changes from night to day. its a hollowed out sphere.

Inside it is a grassy area with trees and a campfire you can walk inside. it looks so real and much better then the linden sky. Anyway i wish LL would allow these or raise the limit. I respect that you do not wan't to be troubled with the issue of the huge prims. I wouldn't either in that situation. I'm basicly using them as a consumer.

I got mine free from another friend. Also a 20x20x40 sphere can make a nice 1 prim dome house for newbies and fits on a 512 parcel. Also with all do respect and i know i look bad for saying this but i wana thank you for making these. You've created something that could possible HELP us in terms of creative purposes in SL.

Gene, before the prim size sanity checks were added everyone was able to make them. And you claim that they are "illegal" (against the law? what state/country do you live in where big prims are illegal? Is it a misdemeanor or a felony?), but admit to having them and giving them out. Hopefully this thread isn't used against you when the FBI knocks on your door.

People shouldn't be paying for these strange prims though, you can get them for free with full permissions by asking the right people .

No one stole any prims,

Like I said on the 2nd post in this thread, this is an advert. It's his friend selling it. If you IM him to get it he'd ask for oral sex (happend to someone in scripting group).

You guys are aware that these guys are from Satyr sim.