ATTN Furries: The Forest is DEAD

As of this morning all our content got wiped without warning and we found Anshe Chung ejecting members out of Forest Fans & Friends (a group she does not own) for another group of her own creation (Forest Friends). Nothing was returned, it was all deleted. Anshe's responce to the sim wipe was deeding the land to a new group of her own creation (Dreamland Furries) and rebuilding the sim by her own people instead of the original community that resided there. Its speculated the culprit behind the wipe was Anshe herself, but there is no proof she did anything. Regardless we want a formal investigation regarding the matter of our content's deletion because we want to know who, how, and why this happened so they may be prosicuted to fullest degree of the TOS agreement. If you share setiment please fill out the petition below.

http://www.petitiononline.com/FFInvest/petition.html

Trolls can find their place elsewhere thank you.

Thats just so wrong. Regardless of sim ownership your content (at least) should have been returned to you instea dof deleted.

OMG thats lame. Unbelievable, to bind furries into a personal zoo?

Oh man, this thread is going to be awesome.

Anshe has given you guys an entire sim to play in. She paid for the sim and eats tier payments for it every month. One of your own officers crashed the sim and that is why it was deeded to a new group, to avoid the same thing happening again. Before you go accusing your benefactor and biggest supporter, wait for the facts. I have seen her bend over backwards for you guys, to give you a community you could manage and practically own.

The sim was in the process of being "rolled back" to get back all of the objects lost during the malicious attack on the community.

In with popcorn before the lock. Awesome.

man I am so looking forwards to the civil war this'll inevitably lead to

Personally I prefer returning - just out of respect - even if its just something left behind.

But thats just me.

Although I think its a bastard of a thing to do, the bottom line is always going to be 'who owns the land?'

Whoever owns it is pretty much sovereign overlord and what they say goes - no matter how lame that may be.

So unless you all owned the land together - I don't think the TOS is going to help you much.

*sneaks some of Belaya's popcorn*

Its strange that the only items that came back after the rollback were the vendors, the furniture etc that didnt actually belong to any of the admins of the Forest.

That smells to me like it was deleted prior to the sim crash taking place. If the items were going to be deleted, why would it simply delete the structures and not the content? Also, if Anshe had deleted them herself, why ask for a sim rollback?

Stinks of inside job to me.

Really, stinks of overreaction to me. GIVE IT TIME! They may roll back further, they may not. Even if not, you have no real recourse... by the way, the petition gave me a giggle.

You should do like these people, F**k for Forest, they've figured out a good way to save forests.

Master Quatro, with all due respect I stated this is what happened and her responsibility in this situation is speculated. Also if ignoring us for 2 months when we're trying to do business with her constitutes "bending over backwards" I think that term needs redefining.

Samia Perun, buildings are the largest objects in the sim. It makes sence to delete them first since they're the easiest to select. Majority of the buildings weren't owned by the officers at all. Only 1 building was owned by an officer. Only 1 building was owned by a forest ranger. The rest was community donated content.

Regardless how far they roll the sim back and return our missing stuff, the fact remains it was still deleted and those responcable for it should be punished accordingly.

So why didn't she axe it a long time ago? Is it because she's not actually losing money, but just the opposite?

Alazarin Mondrian

That was the person that owned most of the buildings, was this not the same person that last night was helping to raise defamatory slogans across dreamland as well as particle based nuisance devices?

It seems fitting that in order to cause more aggrovation, that someone willing to go to such lengths to cause trouble would remove their own structures in an attempt to sabotage any attempt to salvage anything useable from an already dire situation.

Its strange how you seem to act so confident that it wasnt your fault, and that you have some sort of greivance.

Why argue about it Quatro? Let them investigate and if nothing wrong was done it will show in the server logs. IF it was then it is only right that the perp, whoever it was be disciplined to the fullest extent possible as it sounds as if the plaintifs did nothing to cause this. If you, as an employee of Anshe and if Anshe herself has nothing to hide then I would welcome any investigation that wqould vindicate both myself adn the organization itself.

Personally, thinking about it, you dont have a leg to stand on.

The sim didnt belong to you, you were essentially sitting tenants on it.

To put it bluntly, you failed to bring in the required revenue to make it a worthwhile venture, and like anyone who cant pay their mortgage, its been repossessed.

I love how Anshe and company pretend they did some huge favour for the furry community by "giving" the Forest to the furry community. Point is, that island existed long before Anshe owned it, and was originally created by furs. The original owner put it up for sale, and Anshe just happened to be the one who bought it, and she proceeded to integrate it with her personal continent. It could easily have been purchased by someone else, and Anshe did nothing special for the community.

Actually it apperantly was fullfilling its role as an attraction to bring in customers to her furry resdential sims Bunny Bay and Tiger Creek seeing how they're pretty damn full. On top of that we've trying for the longest time to arrange payments to suppliment the loss of DI & Dwell. But of course, she "bent over backwards for us" by ignoring us and not even acknowlaging questions from the community regarding if we did in fact try to do business with her in this regard.

Also I agree with Dmitri Polonsky, if you got nothing to hide then why argue against an investigation?

Rental does not equate to mortgage. Now if there were arrears involved, in the real world, asset seizing is a common recourse by many, if not most, legal systems.

Now if Anshe set a precedent of deleting assets rather than returning them upon (rightful or wrongful) eviction this may come back and bite her in the ass. I'll be watching and waiting to see how this evolves before I consider A'ksha as a place to indulge my Arabian Nights fascination. Right or wrong eviction asset deletion does make Anshe look vengeful. Not someone I'm comfortable doing business with.

~Kami - Wait and watch to see what's true here and what's fabrication

No we don't own her precous sim, *smirks* but we DO own the content! We have the right to take it back. I was pissed when she started ejecting people. i was busy adding more rooms to the sky villages and got disconnected from SL for over a half hour! i came back to find a blank sim and a couple random furs flying around. Later on after the rollback, i made sure to grab what belonged to me. i also abuse reported the land baron for spamming me with group ejects of every member. Also the group was not founded by her and she was striped of officer rank. Somehow she kept finding a way back in to continue ejecting.. Possibly a Linden was behind this but i do not know.

If thats true that there are some very currupted lindens. I refuse to have MY content (which is owned by ME), placed in a sim owned by that horrid monster after this tragic event today! Rather then to salve the problem she just booted out the entire community and replaced us all with blind followers. I was cheated out of land in the past by anshechung.com but i was willing to ignore that because i was offered to help a furry community. Now the land baron destroyed that community, and expects US to take the blame for it. So yea i have every right to take whats mine. I don't care how rich she might be... I am a paying resident too. Removing MY content from the sim was within the TOS. It was MINE! *plays the nemo seagull gestures*

I'm by no stretch of the imagination a fan of Anshe - quite the opposite...

That being said - I think your conclusion may be offbase.. I think she did do a huge favor - by allowing folks to keep content there after purchase.

Consider - someone else may have bought it, yes, and on the day of takeover turned up and deleted everything and pancaked it to sea level, without a word of warning, and be absolutely and utterly in the right.

Her favor was integrating at that point into her existing lands - not wiping it clean and leveling it WAS something special for the community, irrespective of her own motives.

All that being said - I stand by my original statement too - deleting the content was a bastard of an act, and simply one more reasons upon many over the years why I don't particularly like this person.

Unfortunately she owns the sim and can do as she please, and there is very little anyone can do about it.

Consider - someone decides to build on my land, I decide I dont want thier stuff there - so I delete it... I may be a bastard for doing so - but it is within my rights.

That's a lovely disproportionate sense of entitlement you have there. I find your views interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have an overwhelming desire to say 'All your forest are belong to us......for great justice!'