Predictions, Please: Is it Gonna Take Some Suits to Stop the *hats?

Ok i read your thumbnail. Not impressed. It appears someone is asking or telling him he should apologise. Sounds like some fake scripting of words and that you all are trying to do a quick cover your ass.

We aint buying it. Insert tube, use warm soapy water, cleanse yourself.

Seconded.

Hush.

Stop using bold fonts.

Stop trying to explain what you think we don't understand. You think that being understood will absolve you of responsibility. It doesn't. You are responsible whether intent was there or not. It's part of being of legal age. The days of apologizing for "not meaning to" are over. Being aware of the potential effect of your actions is part of your responsibilty. Not knowing doesn't excuse you; it just makes you stupid.

It doesn't matter that you did not do it, you are still responsible. You repeatedly choose to associate with people who amuse you with their antics and their willingness to take it to the edge. You support and encourage them and provide them with their toys to play with.

It is your understanding which is required today, not ours. Understand this; there is a line that is crossed which takes you from being someone who acts like an asshole and who genuinely fucks up to simply being an asshole and a genuine fuckup.

So just hush.

Adohan: I'm truly sorry! I did not mean to use personal attacks, really! This post of mine is a mistake. I actually was typing a novella about a difformed bee being persecuted by other bees about how she looked... I really don't know how this could have happened, I'mreally a good guy.

Get a brain, will ya?

I'm not a w-hat but I think a lot of you are behaving like a lynch mob. Maybe you guys need to go out and enjoy the sunshine a bit before winter totally takes hold, you'll feel better and care less about this little incident

Right on schedule.

I LIKE TO SNOWBOARD. IT IS EXTREME.

At most, the griefer in question will be permabanned.

W-hat will continue to exist (you can't disband a group, they simply form another group, indeed, they already have), the grid will continue to be vulnurable to assholes, and life goes on.

No, you can't be a terrorist for knocking out an entertainment grid.

No, you didn't lose any money by not playing Tringo.

Yes, the kids involved are morons.

No, you won't get any money from them.

LF

Life is good, go out and enjoy it.

PS, the poster above me is a goon.

Goon, in this sense, meaning I paid my 10 dollar lifetime membership to the SA forums about a year and a half ago.

OH NOEZ HE IS TEH HAXX

LF

Adohan, from what I understand at this point (according to another forum post)... they have identified the person who set off the devices. That person has no excuse. He has a history of highly insulting and abusive behavior that he calls "performance art" that has gotten him banned from many sims and lands. This was no "newbie mistake".

While I agree with you that the courts often muck things up... freedom without boundaries is anarchy-- and is in reality counter freedom. Why?

Because when people are not safe to exercise their lives without someone else attacking them-- their freedoms are restricted.

Laws exist to protect people from such attacks. Those laws include acts of computer harassment and vandalism.

I'm all for freedom on Second Life. I am NOT for freedom that allows someone to script a gun strong enough to blow users offline. (Is there ANY reason LL scripting should allow someone to set a push parameter of 9 bigagillion?).

A consistent complaint that has been heard about SL is not instituting common-sense limitations on scripting. And one question I have in all this-- WHY was this user still able to do this, when (if I remember correctly) it was a similar concept that was used to take out Ahern Welcome. Why wasn't an end put to this at that time, by putting logical limits on associated scripting functions?

So yes, let's all stand up for freedom... the freedom and RIGHT of the individual to play this game without being attacked by other users.

Biscuit... Lordfly constantly posts stuff like this whenever he gets the chance. I'm not sure whether he does so because he actually believes this nonsense, or just to get a rise out of people. I haven't seen him make a valid point in these forums since I've been here. He just messes with people for the chuckles of it, I think.

Noone will ever get sued about anything related to SL. I guarantee it.

Adohan, even on the *off chance* this might have been an accident (which I don't buy for one second considering who is involved)... the W-Hats and associates have harassed enough people that no one cares at this point. You are defending something that's indefensible, as you can see from some of the (admittedly excitable) posts here in this thread.

Don't defend criminal activity.

hai guyz wots goin on n ths thred



Just because I refuse to nod my head along with you in your baseless accusations against the lindens for not dropping everything to fix your imaginary private sim lag problem (hint: it's content) doesn't mean I'm a bloody fucktwit.

You win the innernets this time, thoguh.

LF

But it was an accident made while you were trying to grief people next door to you. You were trying to take down a sim. We saw you. So lets not play the innocent here. There was nothing innocent about your actions. Where you screwed up was in taking down the entire grid when you were trying to target a specific group of people. I'm not sure what we did to piss you off but you are most definitely not the innocent here.

What proof do you have to back this up? Or is this just another baseless accusation in hopes of getting innocent people who happen to be in the same group as someone banned?

Shhh, you're ruining his Chewbacca Defense.

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Wow, this sounds serious! 500 thousand bucks?!
Anyway, are you trying to say that blowing the whole server rig was an "accident"? Even if it was, the attempt, as I see from the posts here, was to bring down a sim, which is clearly against the ToS anyway.
Interrupting the functioning of service which SL clearly is on the global level (causing the server rig to crash) may, and I guess it will, cause SL to set a lawsuit against Ol Fitz and demand compensation for the damage he made. This is where the fun ends and real-life trouble begins. I think he should pay for it - even if that does mean going to jail.

Well we saw Ol Fitzcaralldo on our sim moments before this happened and this group has been griefing us for quite some time. As for proof, no I can't offer any. These aren't innocent people, however.

What about the facts that the offending device was called Griefsphere ? And that private islands got hit as well as mainland, which means it was purposefully brought there ? This flies right in the face of the "just an accident" thesis, which I have yet to see backed up by a single fact.

Ok, so the fact that someone flew through the same sim as you before the accident makes them a greifer? Does this mean that the dozens of people who were in Island Sandbox yesterday when it went down were also griefers? Does this mean that YOU are a griefer because you were in the sim before it went down? No. Saying someone is a griefer simply because they were in a certain place at a certain time is equal to saying that walked through a room that a murder was committed in later makes them the murderer.

Also, i have never actually seen you in game before, yet i am a member of w-hat. Does this mean that i am guilty? Have i been griefing you? Please THINK before speaking.



Linden Labs themselves said the balls took down the space server, which keeps the entire grid, including island sims, working. Therefore, it did not even have to be in a quarter of the sims on the grid to take the entire thing down, let alone one in every sim in-game. Also, does having a vehicle named "Grief Car" that you're driving then accidently hit someone with make it designed for griefing and you a griefer? No. Likewise does that mean having a pushgun titled "NOT A GRIEFING TOOL" yet used against random people in sandboxes make it not a tool of griefing? The name was a joke but the item got out of hand. The landmines i sell in my store were origionally called "Griefmines" as a joke, does that make them a tool of griefing, even if they were never used as one? Don't judge a book by its cover. He just forgot to put safeguards in his script.