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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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11-22-2005 16:53
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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11-22-2005 16:53
So does this mean I would be able to port into anyones home just by double clicking it on the map? I'm sure there are a lot of folks that will have a blast with that ability.  That's doubtful. I'm sure there will be a parcel control to disallow direct teleportation. |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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11-22-2005 16:55
Who gives a crap about telehubs if we can p2p teleport. And NO we don't need to be charged for it. That I disagree with. Direct teleport privileges should come with premium accounts only. No need to give away the farm. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,422
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11-22-2005 16:56
This will be great for business. We can set up shop anywhere now. I was thinking a good business plan would be to buy up lots of tiny plots in every neighborhood to sell things. I used to keep a store about 200m from a hub, but now I can have many all over SL with the same tier fee and no concern for location at all. I haven't tried tringo or a casino as a business yet.. hmmmm .... YeeeeHaaww... this might be fun
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Creami Cannoli
Please don't eat me....
Join date: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 414
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11-22-2005 16:57
That I disagree with. Direct teleport privileges should come with premium accounts only. No need to give away the farm. This is one of the things that There definately does better than SL. They do charge for a thing called the explorer pack so you can do it, so I don't care if it's made for premium accounts. I meant (and should have clarified) that we don't need to pay per teleport. |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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11-22-2005 16:58
I meant (and should have clarified) that we don't need to pay per teleport. Ah, yes, a per-teleport fee would kind of suck. |
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Satchmo Prototype
eSheep
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,323
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11-22-2005 17:01
Satchmo, when you invest in SL, not just provide services, and have a change cost you thousands in time and money, I suspect your tune will change. blaze I understand this hurts a few people deep in the pockets... but weren't you preaching something about smart investments all week? From the minute I logged in I realized land was a risky investment I wanted to stay far away from. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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11-22-2005 17:03
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Eugene Pomeray
Neualtenburger
Join date: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 186
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11-22-2005 17:03
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Satchmo Prototype
eSheep
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,323
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11-22-2005 17:03
Ah, yes, a per-teleport fee would kind of suck. Then p2p becomes almost like a status symbol, creating a real social wealth gap. On the other hand, it's a great sink and perhaps a happy compromise. edit: well so much for the compromise. Even more excited about p2p now. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,492
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Allelujah
11-22-2005 17:05
In the dark? I think I see the light.
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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11-22-2005 17:05
blaze I understand this hurts a few people deep in the pockets... but weren't you preaching something about smart investments all week? From the minute I logged in I realized land was a risky investment I wanted to stay far away from. Absolutely. This change doesn't effect me one iota (in fact, it helps me greatly). However, I appreciate the damage than an unstable business environment can do to everyone. There are ways to introduce these changes, they're called: roadmaps _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Cadroe Murphy
Assistant to Mr. Shatner
Join date: 31 Jul 2003
Posts: 689
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11-22-2005 17:09
I'm looking forward to checking out a lot more stuff around the grid.
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Kazuo Murakami
Sofa King
Join date: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 359
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11-22-2005 17:30
Direct teleport privileges should come with premium accounts only. No need to give away the farm. That sounds super. In fact, how about every upgrade from this point forward is only available for premium members. Different builds for different "classes." Oh, and basic members have to wear a scarlet B prim attachment. |
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Travis Lambert
White dog, red collar
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,819
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11-22-2005 17:33
While of course - I'm way concerned about the $12/sqm I had to pay for all the land I own in Isabel - Its not like I ever planned on selling either. So that's trivial.
Zoning? Jesus. I really hope I'm wrong that P2P will make our cluttered world worse. If I am wrong, a year from now I'll graciously take a healthy "I told you so" from Khamon.  Problem is, we wont know whether I'm right or wrong about this concern till its too late. Its here though. Not gonna bitch about it too much & just deal. Change is just a challenge _____________________
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Katt Kongo
M2 Publisher
Join date: 9 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,020
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11-22-2005 17:40
The issue with p2p teleporting and telehub land is a legitimate concern. But instead of whining about how p2p teleporting is so unfair, a smart business person will look for the opportunies this change may present.
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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11-22-2005 17:46
The thing is changes can happen, but they don't have to be jarring about faces which screw everyone concerned.
Roadmaps with 3 month lag time should be introduced to give people an opportunity to adjust and adapt. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Soleil Mirabeau
eh?
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 995
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11-22-2005 17:52
Do you have any idea of the massive disruption that telehubs will cause? This is so immensely unfair to people who have invested so much to leave them in the dark like this. I'm shedding a single tear for you....right now. |
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Soleil Mirabeau
eh?
Join date: 6 Oct 2005
Posts: 995
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11-22-2005 17:52
Oh, and YAY!
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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11-22-2005 17:56
*does the old school shift f11 dance*
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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11-22-2005 18:02
The thing is changes can happen, but they don't have to be jarring about faces which screw everyone concerned. Roadmaps with 3 month lag time should be introduced to give people an opportunity to adjust and adapt. That I agree with. _____________________
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
Join date: 20 May 2003
Posts: 2,716
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11-22-2005 18:06
<-----Doing a happy dance.
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Magnum Serpentine
Registered User
Join date: 20 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,811
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11-22-2005 18:24
wow one of my proposals might become law. Thank you all who voted. Pinpoint teleporting will make our lives easier. |
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Jamie Bergman
SL's Largest Distributor
Join date: 17 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,752
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11-22-2005 18:27
That is true, but the fact that it has moved forward to the acknowledged stage is a good thing. I do hope they will implement this feature - it would benefit so many users and make SL a lot more enjoyable to travel in, especially as it continues to get larger. A handful of landowners should not hold up such an important improvement of SL for all of us. Hear hear!! Let SL freedom (of movement) ring! |
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Magnum Serpentine
Registered User
Join date: 20 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,811
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11-22-2005 18:29
That I disagree with. Direct teleport privileges should come with premium accounts only. No need to give away the farm. As the author of this proposal, I say absolutly NO to a fee or to make it useable by an elite few. |
