In loving memory and 9K wasted
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Tere Karuna
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Join date: 4 Jul 2004
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07-13-2006 18:17
Im sorry to hear about the way ya was /sacmed/treated/ripped/other. It was horrible on many different levels. But what I find most disturbing is how a few people is acting over the post.
Wether you agree with thier feelings or not; every person has right to feel emotional over whatever they please. Instead feeling compassion for someone that was hurt, lets instead make fun of them? Funny thing is... how many of ya that are being plain ass rude; saying how weird they are for emotional feelings concerning prim babies....get off by watching your prim "attachment" sliding in and out a prim hole? I fail to see the difference between yanking ya monkey while watching two avatars slapping skin together, is so different from a couple (that just may have RL emotinal feelings for one another) feeling a emotional attachment to a RPing experience.
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Mustelid Carnot
Made from quality ferrets
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 106
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07-14-2006 05:30
From: Luciftias Neurocam What's "emotional" about buying a bunch of prims shaped like a baby? Than, say, buying some prim shoes? Well, the item itself is not so much the point, but the emotion of being able to share a warm event like a pregnancy and birth with someone you cannot currently do so with in RL is certainly. To me, it seems no stupider than getting a nice "place" to spend time with your "friends" around a "hottub" or going "dancing". None of these things are real, but they reflect real pleasurable things and make people happy.
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Genvieve Pontoppidan
Runs with scissors
Join date: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 63
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07-14-2006 05:47
From: Magnum Serpentine Why? I want to be informed on currupted businesses and the forums are the best place to report bad businesses. I second that notion. Perhaps I'm third or fourth... I haven't read through the rest of the posts.. Anyway. Your damn right, I want to know of sketchy businesses. Same reason I'd contact the better business bureau in RL. When I'm about to spend money, and 9000 L is nothing to sneeze at, I want to know I'm not just pissing it away. This isn't the same thing as "so and so" stole my whatever. In fact, I propose a forum dedicated solely to discuss business practices among SL. If Company X is screwing people left and right, I want to know about it before I wander over there and toss a few bucks in their grimy hands. Knowledge is power.
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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07-14-2006 06:01
a prim pregnacy/baby costs 9,000L ??!!
Seems an industry due for new competition to me.
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Persephone Milk
Very Persenickety!
Join date: 7 Oct 2004
Posts: 870
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07-14-2006 06:35
From: Kyrah Abattoir it's up to you to solve your case with these business peoples not the forums or LL I completely disagree. This is not a personal attack against an individual, it is a legitimate public complaint against a public company who is allegedly not living up to their agreements. This is something that I want to know about before I choose to do business with a company - and I like to hear praise as well. In fact, I would really like to see eBay style ratings with comments available for individuals and businesses so that we can make more informed decisions about whom we should place our trust. That being said, it is always a good idea to attempt to work out your differences with a business before you protest publicly. Behind every SL business is a real person with a real life to deal with. It is entirely possible that when somebody is unresponsive or seems to be in a bad mood, there may be more going on that you are aware of. In this case it appears that reasonable attempts were made to request help from the business. Bravo to the original poster and thank you for warning us. The only people who are afraid of their reputation are those that do not invest in it.
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Selador Cellardoor
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Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
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07-14-2006 06:58
From: Tere Karuna Instead feeling compassion for someone that was hurt, lets instead make fun of them? Funny thing is... how many of ya that are being plain ass rude; saying how weird they are for emotional feelings concerning prim babies....get off by watching your prim "attachment" sliding in and out a prim hole? I fail to see the difference between yanking ya monkey while watching two avatars slapping skin together, is so different from a couple (that just may have RL emotinal feelings for one another) feeling a emotional attachment to a RPing experience. Very good point, Tere, which is why I have emboldened it. Funnily enough, on another forum far removed from this one, I have just posted in response to a person who suffered the loss of a person very close to her, who posted about her feelings, and who was the recipient of similar insensitivity. I really do wonder sometimes whether human beings have a basic flaw and should be recalled by the manufacturer.
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Lupus Delacroix
Wyrm Raider
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 695
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07-14-2006 07:28
From: Nala Sterling Sure, it is a prim, but Second Life is just that, your Second Life, and what would you do? I honestly wouldn't have a prim baby, it creeps me out. But I've always said to each their own. Onto the customer service aspect that really sucks. You deserve a refund, and quite frankly I'd stomp on that store owner till I got one. Again thats just imho though.
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,328
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07-14-2006 08:13
From: Magnum Serpentine Why? I want to be informed on currupted businesses and the forums are the best place to report bad businesses. But is there anyone at this point who DOESN'T realize that Company A in this thread is corrupt? As another poster said, I'm amazed they are still around.
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Showdog Tiger
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Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 404
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Still Here
07-16-2006 13:55
From: Reitsuki Kojima But is there anyone at this point who DOESN'T realize that Company A in this thread is corrupt? As another poster said, I'm amazed they are still around. Dearly Darling, That headless baby picture was twisted! How a company could let that get past quality control is beyond me. To not stand behind your product in the baby industry is not acceptable in any universe. I am so sorry that this happened to you...However you have learned a very valuable lesson...the next time you have another baby you will check references before you spend another Linden. The company is still in business by the way. I wish you well with your surviving twin. Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Minx Heart
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Join date: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 69
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07-16-2006 21:52
You both have my heartfelt sympathies.
As for the place who did that to you , and probably countless others , I hope LL or someone puts them in their place and if it does not. I hope Karma jumps up and bites them right on their hiney !!
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katykiwi Moonflower
Esquirette
Join date: 5 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,489
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07-16-2006 23:48
From: Cannae Brentano What we got a headless baby with broken scripts. It was sent back noting that time was of the essence. I am sorry but this is really incredibly funny to ponder. You know its all a game, dont you?
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Showdog Tiger
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Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 404
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Game: Of Course!
07-17-2006 03:59
From: katykiwi Moonflower I am sorry but this is really incredibly funny to ponder. You know its all a game, dont you? Dearly Darling, Of couse this is a game! A very expensive game. However I don't think headless babies would be nice for a round of "Go Fish" or "Chess" either. Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
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07-17-2006 04:07
From: Showdog Tiger Dearly Darling,
Of couse this is a game! A very expensive game. However I don't think headless babies would be nice for a round of "Go Fish" or "Chess" either.
Ever Yours,
Mrs. Showdog Tiger You play Go Fish and Chess with babies? Well, thats new!
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Cannae Brentano
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Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 368
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07-17-2006 05:11
From: Kyrah Abattoir it's up to you to solve your case with these business peoples not the forums or LL I missed this the first time around. Just to be clear, the company filed an abuse report against me. My report went in after I was told of this by the owner.
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Cannae Brentano
NeoTermite
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 368
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07-17-2006 05:35
From: Showdog Tiger Dearly Darling,
Of couse this is a game! A very expensive game. However I don't think headless babies would be nice for a round of "Go Fish" or "Chess" either.
Ever Yours,
Mrs. Showdog Tiger No, but we are considering selling the movie rights to a SL movie company. They said a horror story about a prim baby with a floating head that projectile vomits script errors could be a hit.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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07-17-2006 08:26
From: katykiwi Moonflower I am sorry but this is really incredibly funny to ponder. You know its all a game, dont you? It is "just a game" ... however many people do roleplay in this game, and take it quite seriously. Including relationships, and children. Whilst it's easy to just dismiss something like this as 'silly', which it is to you, why not take a moment and consider how you would have felt if this was an important thing to you and your partner in game or real life? Lewis
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Cannae Brentano
NeoTermite
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 368
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07-17-2006 09:22
From: katykiwi Moonflower I am sorry but this is really incredibly funny to ponder. You know its all a game, dont you? Its not like anybody is losing RL sleep over this, but we're still out 30 USD. I'd feel the same way as if I hired a DJ six weeks in advance for a party who failed to show, then arrived a week late without songs despite being fully paid in advance, only to claim to file an abuse report against me following my request for a refund. But I will agree, this has certainly been one of the more surreal experiences I've had in second life. And perhaps the most important lesson I've learned is make sure the phantom-flexi-head option is turned off on those prim babies. 
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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 478
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07-17-2006 12:17
Sorry to hear about the loss.
Booo to bad business.
and at which point do prim babies become grim babies?
Did you put your baby inside a coffin or chamber if not, people can access her even tho you put her under the surface patch--- remember it can be turned off through the Debug pulldown.
Hang in there, and adopt a furry. They're much in need of care these days.
*hugs*
Troy
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Io Zeno
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Join date: 1 Jun 2006
Posts: 940
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07-17-2006 12:21
From: Cannae Brentano No, but we are considering selling the movie rights to a SL movie company. They said a horror story about a prim baby with a floating head that projectile vomits script errors could be a hit. I would pay good linden to see this, myself.
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Vivianne Draper
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Join date: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,157
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07-17-2006 12:31
you really shouldn't be enabling physics on baby heads. i'm just sayin...... (your object "baby head" went offworld at location xyz and is being returned to your inventory"
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Cannae Brentano
NeoTermite
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 368
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07-17-2006 12:43
From: Vivianne Draper you really shouldn't be enabling physics on baby heads. i'm just sayin...... (your object "baby head" went offworld at location xyz and is being returned to your inventory" Actually, many of the others i've spoken to with prim babies from the same company have this problem for the entire object. When its placed in the crib, it TPs to a location in a random direction, including down. And virtually everyone I spoke to thought their problems were an isolated case and not part of the normal level of service provided.
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Nala Sterling
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Join date: 1 Jun 2006
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In Memory of..
07-17-2006 13:55
I would like to thank all of you who have stood behind us in this ordeal, and to those who have stopped by ingame to pay your condolences.
For those who think this is all stupid because it is prims, imagine your emotions/feelings at buying something, going to your prim house, trying it out to find out that it is broken or bugged. And no refunds. It isnt the money as much as the principle.
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You"
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Showdog Tiger
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Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 404
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07-17-2006 14:39
From: Nala Sterling I would like to thank all of you who have stood behind us in this ordeal, and to those who have stopped by ingame to pay your condolences.
For those who think this is all stupid because it is prims, imagine your emotions/feelings at buying something, going to your prim house, trying it out to find out that it is broken or bugged. And no refunds. It isnt the money as much as the principle.
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" Dearly Darling, And I'm sure you would bbe in big trouble for beheading the owner's extended family here in SL. I agree the principle of good sportsmanship is not in their corner. Obviously not a Princeton graduate. As for my skill with "go fish" or "chess" to the other respondant: I'm not that good at either game. I'm sure there are many folks....even young children that can beat me. It okay to not be good at some things. I do very well in other areas. Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,940
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07-18-2006 14:43
From: Nala Sterling For those who think this is all stupid because it is prims, imagine your emotions/feelings at buying something, going to your prim house, trying it out to find out that it is broken or bugged. And no refunds. It isnt the money as much as the principle. Well, that's just it. If I buy a $30 watch that never worked, yes, I'd try to get a refund. If I couldn't get a refund, yes, I might make a complaint to the BBB or even the attorney general's office if fraud was involved. I would not, however, dig a hole in the back yard, set up a tombstone and start accepting condolences. If I paid for something in SL and didn't get it, I would not compare it to a funeral, either. You want to talk about imagining feelings? Imagine being told that you'll never be able to have a child in RL, and coming to terms that the life you had hoped to have will never come to be. And if you want to talk expense, imagine the cost of medications and treatments. Compare that to 9000L and a broken prim and maybe you'll understand why, although I feel bad you got ripped off for about $30, my sympathy is certainly limited.
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Cannae Brentano
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Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 368
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07-18-2006 17:11
From: Lorelei Patel Well, that's just it. If I buy a $30 watch that never worked, yes, I'd try to get a refund. If I couldn't get a refund, yes, I might make a complaint to the BBB or even the attorney general's office if fraud was involved. I would not, however, dig a hole in the back yard, set up a tombstone and start accepting condolences.
If I paid for something in SL and didn't get it, I would not compare it to a funeral, either.
You want to talk about imagining feelings? Imagine being told that you'll never be able to have a child in RL, and coming to terms that the life you had hoped to have will never come to be. And if you want to talk expense, imagine the cost of medications and treatments.
Compare that to 9000L and a broken prim and maybe you'll understand why, although I feel bad you got ripped off for about $30, my sympathy is certainly limited. I've met a few people in SL who had prim babies here for exactly that reason.
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