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Gor? Ageplay? Miniscule crap. THIS group needs to go.

Corvus Drake
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08-29-2006 17:33
From: Nauv DeFarge
"Beastiality" is just the title. Go ahead and search it up.

Here's the lovely group description, complete with a REAL dogfucking picture as the group icon!


What the hell? At least with Gor those fat nerds will never leave their basements and go get a harlem of slave girls IRL. UGHHHHHH WTC.



By all means, go to Harlem and ask for slave girls. PLEASE. I'll make a killing on the tickets....
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Chronic Skronski
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08-29-2006 17:37
From: Corvus Drake
By all means, go to Harlem and ask for slave girls. PLEASE. I'll make a killing on the tickets....

Oh jebus. hahahahaha
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Abby Schnook
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08-29-2006 17:39
From: Linnian Sugar
well wile every one was puking and and in shock I IM'ed Adem Linden personally and he has removed that group. you guys should all send me L$10 as a thank you.. please? :)

Trust me...by the time you talked to Adam it was a done deal.
Selador Cellardoor
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08-29-2006 17:42
Oops - as usual I contribute to a thread without reading all of it.
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08-29-2006 17:43
From: Abby Schnook
Trust me...by the time you talked to Adam it was a done deal.


Imagine a world without official forums...
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Briana Dawson
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08-29-2006 18:00
From: Nauv DeFarge

At least with Gor those fat nerds will never leave their basements and go get a harlem of slave girls IRL. UGHHHHHH WTC.


So are we to assume that you are not a fat nerd?

Briana Dawson
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Cocoanut Koala
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08-29-2006 18:19
From: Fa nyak

Why didn't I think of that? I saved that photo last time I saw it for just the right occasion, and this was it! Perfect!

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Cocoanut Koala
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08-29-2006 18:28
OK, now, just for philosophical fun, let's think about this.

What about the group was wrong? Agreed, the picture was wrong. But what was wrong about a group who believe in bestiality? I mean, of course, as opposed to everything else which is apparently okay.

Is there a real-world law against it or something?

Peter Singer, Princeton professor of ethics, believes, among other things - such as it's okay to kill defective babies up to, oh, say four months or so after birth, since they aren't people yet (I know this because I corresponded with him to determine, among other things, what the exact cut-off date was, and it was "oh, maybe three or four months" as I recall), and also to put elderly or handicapped people out of our misery - that bestiality is a perfectly okay thing.

My own position on it is that it isn't okay, because it is not with the full - i.e., knowledgable - permission of the animal involved. Sometimes the animals are taken against their will. Other times, the animal may not realize what indignity he is partaking of, much as denuding a senile old woman and posing her for porn pictures takes away her innate dignity many civilized people tend to think every person (sentient or not) should be allowed to maintain.

OK, so we have ethics professor Peter Singer advocating for the right to engage in bestiality.

Now, why did the group itself get rubbed out? Is just role-playing bestiality, or talking about bestiality, against some real-world law?

Or is this - like antisemitic Nazi role-playing - just something up with which the Lindens will not put?

I agree with the refusal to allow the Nazi stuff. But . . . what's so much worse about role-playing bestiality than, say, role-playing slavery, age playing, and all of that?

I can understand refusing to allow builds and so forth that portray intolerance (toward Jews, for example). But why delete a group that professes to like doing it with dogs?

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Miles Edgeworth
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08-29-2006 19:03
From: Cocoanut Koala
stuff


One guy says something's okay, so it must be!
King Frederick
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08-29-2006 19:08
I think all decent people should be against the eroticization of children and animals because both are an affront to human dignity.

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Aires Pierterson
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08-29-2006 19:15
From: Cocoanut Koala
OK, now, just for philosophical fun, let's think about this.

What about the group was wrong? Agreed, the picture was wrong. But what was wrong about a group who believe in bestiality? I mean, of course, as opposed to everything else which is apparently okay.

Is there a real-world law against it or something?

Peter Singer, Princeton professor of ethics, believes, among other things - such as it's okay to kill defective babies up to, oh, say four months or so after birth, since they aren't people yet (I know this because I corresponded with him to determine, among other things, what the exact cut-off date was, and it was "oh, maybe three or four months" as I recall), and also to put elderly or handicapped people out of our misery - that bestiality is a perfectly okay thing.

My own position on it is that it isn't okay, because it is not with the full - i.e., knowledgable - permission of the animal involved. Sometimes the animals are taken against their will. Other times, the animal may not realize what indignity he is partaking of, much as denuding a senile old woman and posing her for porn pictures takes away her innate dignity many civilized people tend to think every person (sentient or not) should be allowed to maintain.

OK, so we have ethics professor Peter Singer advocating for the right to engage in bestiality.

Now, why did the group itself get rubbed out? Is just role-playing bestiality, or talking about bestiality, against some real-world law?

Or is this - like antisemitic Nazi role-playing - just something up with which the Lindens will not put?

I agree with the refusal to allow the Nazi stuff. But . . . what's so much worse about role-playing bestiality than, say, role-playing slavery, age playing, and all of that?

I can understand refusing to allow builds and so forth that portray intolerance (toward Jews, for example). But why delete a group that professes to like doing it with dogs?

coco


"Whilst zoosexual acts are legal in some countries, such as Sweden and the Netherlands, it is illegal in Great Britain (for penetrative acts), Canada, and much of the United States and Australia amongst others."

From collecting what's being said here, the group actually took part in bestial acts in RL, which would justify why LL got rid of it. I mean, who wants to harbor a criminal under their roof? (call me a hypocrite if you want, I'm sure I've broken some sort of law in my life)

As far as the ethics discussion, it's no straight line between right and wrong. You can consider many factors. Sure, it's not bad if you're hurting the animal. But as Coco said the animal isn't fully aware of what he/she is doing, so that could make it wrong. Roleplaying, sure. You won't find me near that group, but it's human nature to fantasize, and I try to respect other people's opinions like I do my own. However, if you like sneaking out at night to 'hang out' in barns, be my guest, just don't get upset if you're hauled away in cuffs.
Nauv DeFarge
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08-29-2006 19:20
From: someone
Is there a real-world law against it or something?

Uh, considering the group is about fucking dogs IRL (In real life, just for clarification), yes?

From: someone
blah blah Peter Singer

He sounds like a blast at parties.

From: someone
I agree with the refusal to allow the Nazi stuff. But . . . what's so much worse about role-playing bestiality than, say, role-playing slavery, age playing, and all of that?

Oh sorry I forgot that when someone says "All in RL" in your group description it must mean you're JUST role-playing in an online game.




From: Corvus Drake
By all means, go to Harlem and ask for slave girls. PLEASE. I'll make a killing on the tickets....


Trust me I've been to the hood yo.
Cocoanut Koala
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08-29-2006 19:31
Just did a brief perusal on Google regarding this, and several sources said that bestiality is a misdemeanor under California law, which would make it illegal.

I think y'all are right, that it is the "in real life" component of the group that made them get banished.

Which makes me think if a bestiality group who DIDN'T claim to do this in real life, but only role-play it, would be allowed.

Kind of the difference between role-playing killing (war is a common example) and being a group claiming to be dedicated to killing in real life.

As for Peter Singer, I disagree with all of his views. I thought maybe that he didn't have kids, but he did - three or four, I think. I guess he just didn't consider them human (!) at an early age. I disagreed with that completely, as I believe all infants lack is experience, language, and biological maturation.

He didn't euthanize his own mother, either, I learned later, but put her in a home. So I doubt that if push came to shove, he would actually put these beliefs into practice. (At least not for his own family.)

Anyway, your answers have satisfied me. I think "promoting a real-life crime (in California, though not in all states)" is a good enough reason to off the group.

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08-29-2006 19:32
From: Got Wood
If they have an offensive picture as their icon and offensive language in their description, AR the hell out of them!!


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Nauv DeFarge
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08-29-2006 19:39
The group known as "Beastiality" is now gone. All 49 members, as Coco said earlier, removed from the group. Right?

Wrong.

Search for "Beast Masters!" in Groups. Same dogfucking icon, same founder, same 49 members. Just the group title changed within a few minutes.


I didn't know LL advocates this stuff in real life.
Lost Newcomb
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08-29-2006 19:42
From: Nauv DeFarge
The group known as "Beastiality" is now gone. All 49 members, as Coco said earlier, removed from the group. Right?

Wrong.

Search for "Beast Masters!" in Groups. Same dogfucking icon, same founder, same 49 members. Just the group title changed within a few minutes.


I didn't know LL advocates this stuff in real life.


They hid the group just now. :eek:

Personally I feel the person who is making this group (sick girl you bad bad) should be suspended.
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Gabe Lippmann
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08-29-2006 19:42
From: Nauv DeFarge
I didn't know LL advocates this stuff in real life.


It's so obvious.
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08-29-2006 19:43
The group may be hidden but I'm having fun looking at the descriptions for other groups with "Beast" in the name.
Gabe Lippmann
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08-29-2006 19:45
From: Huns Valen
The group may be hidden but I'm having fun looking at the descriptions for other groups with "Beast" in the name.


Don't hold out on us.
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08-29-2006 19:53
From: Gabe Lippmann
Don't hold out on us.

Just search for "Beast", you won't be disappointed.
Nauv DeFarge
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08-29-2006 19:55


Exact same founder, number of members, description, and (disgusting) group icon. Totally different name.

I'm sure they just reformed within half an hour, though. Totally plausible.
Cocoanut Koala
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08-29-2006 19:58
I was going by someone else saying the group was removed by a Linden. Not so, huh?

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Yiffy Yaffle
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08-29-2006 19:59
You know the worst group of people in SL? It's those F'n Stinkin Forum Trolls. I say they gota go. Their Sick Sick SICK!!! A bunch of bastards those bunch be... :D
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Lost Newcomb
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08-29-2006 20:01
Well my question is.

IRL. (Since this involves a real life photo of a dog having sex with a human bitch, and a group that states they are doing it RL).

In California, is it illegal to take, carry and distribute pictures of zoophilia?

In California, is it illegal to take part in such activities?
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Miles Edgeworth
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08-29-2006 20:02
From: Yiffy Yaffle
You know the worst group of people in SL? It's those F'n Stinkin Forum Trolls. I say they gota go. Their Sick Sick SICK!!! A bunch of bastards those bunch be... :D

Yes, let's derail this thread with accusations of fursecution!

(except for the fact that Nauv is a furry)
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