The Chosen Ones Have Been Announced

I find it highly amusing that the usual cavalcade of smacktards is squawking up the FIC storm again. I mean did they ever thing that maybe If they weren't such malodious cantankerous imbecilic loudmouths so high on the stench of their own defecation that maybe just maybe people would like them and respect their opinions? and they too could be invited to such kewl events.

As others have noted, sounds like sour grapes

Yes, a "permanent" Feted Inner Core... until the second meeting, already being planned, which will have different attendees.

There is no permanent heirarchy being hand-chosen by LL to lord it over the rest of the unwashed massed until kingdom come. It's a group of 8 people invited to chat with some Lindens. They aren't being Knighted, or placed as the official SL Resident Council til the end of time, or authorized to take your lunch money.

In a couple months, it will be a whole new 8 "permanent" FIC for everyone to cry about, and I certainly hope those getting their panties in a wad right now have the decency to decline should they be invited next time.

I am beginning to think it apros pos that the new SL theme song should be "We hate it when our friends get successful" by Morrisey.

Yah somehow that point keeps getting glossed over and this is about the 5th or 6th time someone has pointed it out in this thread.

Methinks some people need here a refreshed in reading comprehension among other things.

I'm of the opinion that it wouldn't matter who was picked for this - there would be someone jumping up and down that it was rigged, not fair, playing favorites.

But everything has to start somewhere - I hardly know the people who were picked, but it looks like a fairly wide crossection of users - so they're bound to get some constructive input.

Next time, if there is a next time, different people will be picked and we'll go though this all over again. There will be no pleasing all the people all the time.

The important thing is that SOMEONE is going.

Because it IS, Jennyfur. You like it; you were chosen, as we knew you or Flipper would be.

Now if THAT doesn't prove there is a feted inner core, I don't know what does.

Or maybe the fact that they are OUT AND OUT CREATING ONE - which could actually be honestly titled "Feted Inner Core" - by choosing the residents and giving them greater say than other residents for the entire future of SL.

This is nothing other than an official feted inner core; it's rotten, it's wrong; it is the wrong way to do business, and the wrong way to garner customer good will.

And I don't have to call you names to make my point.

I don't have to call you a smacktard, as you have called me, or a malodious cantankerous imbecilic loudmouth high on the stench of your own defecation, or tell you no one likes you and respects you, in order to make my points.

If that is the best of your arguments, it isn't very good.

And I find it telling and very disturbing that the people they choose to attend this are just the sort of people who DO call paying customers such names, and attempt to marginalize others' opinions, such as mine.

coco

That is the plan. Just keep harping until the sane people just don't care to argue anymore.

BTW, when does the No Avie Left Behind program start up? I hate to see so much inequity. It's truly a shame

edit/ eh, why bother.

*bans himself from the forums

There is talk of one going on during the SLCC in August which would make sense since there will be hundreds of SLers in town already. I hope it works out.

Of course we will. Because the important thing is NO ONE should be going.

coco

I don't think I'm generally considered some sort of conspiracy theorist or FIC-obsessive, but I think this is a really pointless move.

It's not resident consultation. That should be really obvious. For a start, there's only eight people anyway - no matter how informed those people are about the world, it's not going to be useful information.

Those people are deliberately chosen (apart from the random eighth member, it seems). That makes it even less likely that there's going to be any sort of useful sample from this. You can't choose a good set of people to do this by definition. The whole procedure is pointless as a method of "empowering residents" or any of that nonsense, because if you pick people and ask them stuff, you are inherently going to bias your sample and make it meaningless.

It's not that they've picked the wrong people (I'm sure that the people picked are terrific and will do their utmost to help everyone else, and no, not a word of sarcasm, I actually do) it's that you cannot pick the right people, because by picking you make your picks unrepresentative.

At best it's pointless, in the middle it's self-deluding and at worst it's some sort of Machiavellian social engineering plan. Okay, I don't actually think that latter one is the case, if it is one it's a pretty rubbish plan, but it won't get any better than pointless.

Can I ask a question? Is this more or less of an !!outrageous and unfair designation of power by LL passed out to a favored elite group!! than the resmod issue? Not sure if I just need a torch or if I should bring extra lighter fluid and a bag lunch.

some people are more popular than others for a variety of reasons deal with it. I know I do. Am I as popular as every designer out there? nope. Do I piss and moan about not being as popular as people like Munchflower, Torrid or Nephilaine? Nope. Do I deliberately speak out against them because they are more popular than me? Nope again. Do you see my point? Popularity is the natural order of things in social hierarchies and your know what. IT SUCKS on both ends. It SUCKS as much to be popular as it does to be unpopular.

I call people smacktards or whatever if they have consistently demonstrated qualities to be labelled as such. I wasn't specifically referencing you and only you in particular. If my calling some people smacktards is so horrible, Then same thing could be said for you calling me or anyone FIC. It obviously isn't a compliment and its meant in a derrogatory nature.

Yes they should live in vacccum with no input.

This is nothing new under the sun - when 1.1 was coming out they selected a bunch of people to hold a telephone conference with them...

They got a bunch of real info from real users of the system, and things went ahead better because of it.

And of course there was the exact self same animosity about it that I see here - the same accusations only under a different name.

I think its a good thing. And the fact that none of them as far as I know are raving psycho's is a better thing.

LL needs to get to setting up a defined and permanent favored avies group already. They need some help and it's cheaper than hiring real employees.

And for those attending this CJ, can you please bring back some cake or free pens or something?

Then you must have a problem with reading comprehension, among other things, because they have said this will be a permanent advisory committee, to which they will add new members, as time goes along, and also invite them to San Francisco.

The committee will GROW, not change. Once on it, you are on it for life, and part of the permanent advisory committee.

coco

Jealousy is such an UGLY emotion

Sometimes you can gain way more knowledge and insight from a calm cool collected group of say eight people than you can from 500 people all clammering for their turn on the soapbox, talking out of turn and over each other.

Exactly! LL gets no input and there is no way to get it without ferrying in some pals for a cozy meeting at the home office.

Funny how legitimate, valid objections just get ignored and dismissed as 'sour grapes' because "you didn't get picked".

Why would we want to get picked for something we disagree with?

Lewis

"Some people are more popular than others - deal with it?"

Have we sunk to this?

You are telling me now that you are popular than others?

I think I should give up on SL and find some place inhabited by adults.

coco

I've been arguing against this from the moment that it was announced and I've yet to see a reply of any sort of at all to be honest.

As with all things I am sure that it will change and evolve. So, if the next SL Views is during the SLCC and none of the original 8 can make a second trip out to SF this summer and an entirely new group of people is represented - even if those original 8 are still considered a permanent member - that may be considered growth, but it is also an entirely different group of people. Either way, whether it changes completely or grows out of that original 8, the point I was making was that those 8 and those 8 alone were not the only ones chosen and that ever will be chosen as it seemed that some people were going on about.

Actually I have a question....of all the folks mentioned, I am interested in knowing what, if any, types of interests, accomplishments, talents each person brings to the table.

I have heard of some of the folks in question, but am really much to lazy to research this on my own, so if there's anyone in the know, I'd love to get the lowdown on the chosen

And I'm looking for straight facts not mudslinging