Have the sweatshops found us?

I agree completely, though he neglected to stress a couple of things:

the reward in SL isn't worth the time for sweatshops. There is much lower hanging fruit given the expertise required. It requires a pretty smart person to work in this environment, and if you're that bright you simply are going to find a much jucier target.

I also think impervious is a bit optimistic. I'd rather say improbable.

there maybe lower, but the threshhold maybe be is sl's fruit low enough to be profitable.

If they were clever enough to make it here, they'd be clever enough not to waste their time.

It all works in WoW or EQ or whatever, because you don't need any real skills, verbal or technical. You just need the mental ability to figure out click patterns.

It does not in SL.

And I hate to pull this, but for those who vaguely care, I own a company which hires offshore engineers and graphic people to do development.

I have never once thought of getting them to do anything in here. It's just too complicated to retrain people in such a small environment where the payoff is too small.

I can tell people to clone VB apps or even write c++ routines if I spec it out very clearly. But to learn how to build with prims and code in LSL?

Anyone with the slightest ability in that area wouldn't take the job. How are LSL skills transferrable?

It's all just so improbable and completely unworkable.

i would like to point out that for no effort i make more than us$40/month just by having a few alts.

ramping that up to $400/month or $4000/month wouldn't take much effort on my part; but i get paid more for doing other things.

so the argument that ll farming isn't low enough fruit to harvest is empirically false.

the real hurdle to farming might be that the l$ to us$ exchanges might not be able to handle a large influx of l$ for sale.

Yes, I'm aware of that dupe bug. (Oh, we don't have dupe bugs! Says Philip)

Unfortunately, it is an exploit but I also believe it's a very carefully monitored one by Philip and crew.

You may make the investment and then easily lose it all because SL catches on. What then?

I'd have to agree with that.Games like Lineage2,Starwars Galaxies etc offer much better targets for the oriental sweatshops,games where you can be making millions in game money in a relatively short space of time.

After experiencing these 'sweatshops' in Lineage2 I can tell you that the spirit of co-operation and community just is not in them which pretty much dooms them to failure here.

Nope, just hope that, for some reason and in spite of all evidence, their shareholders might have half a conscience between them!

I'm opening a sweatshop.

no bug involved. you get a stipend for having an account.

Hi peeps -)
I purchased an Island from Anshe, last week...I had a security system installed which bled over into my neighbours land as far as the 15 second warning were concerned, thustly & quite rightly so annoying my neighbours... I Immediatley turned the system off, But at that point i realised just what power Anshe has over me as far as her rules & regulations are concerned...so i decided to sell the island & move on, when i tried to right click the land to add for sale there i found i could not do this Apparantley if i sell the island it all has to go via Anshe, Also the group that i was told to form for the land i also find there is a name in there as an officer a japanese or chinese name which is someone i have never heard of, & i am not allowed to remove this person from my group, so this person has the right to sell my land just as much as i do.. Rather than being able to place a sign on my land (or i assume it`s my land or at least i thought once i had paid Anshe 60K for it it would be my land) so that anyone can right click the land & simply buy it, i now find that everything concerning the land i`m supposed to own has to go through Anshe!!! it seems to me that i have the land on loan & i do not actually own it at all if i`m mistaken then i apologise... I do not intend paying the tier fees to Anshe until such time as this can be resolved... after all whats the point in paying for something that doesnt appear to be mine... or am i wrong ? is this normal practice ? when i have purchased linden land when i have wanted to move on i`ve set the land for sale placed an add in the land for sale section & it has beenn sold quite quickly, but in this case it seems i do not have the power to do this... as a side not Anshe was away when i purchased the land & Master Quatro was dealing with my purchase i paid him the monies for the land & as such did not receive one of Anshe`s cards explaining anything about her zoned propperty, so all this has come as a big shock to me... also i`m not sure if i`m posting this in the right place as i have never posted in this forum before so again my apologies if this post should have been placed elswhere
i would appreciate any feed back regarding this matter as Anshe seems to be permanantley unavailable to answer any im`s i have sent her even though she shows as being on line

thank you for listening to my witterings smiles
Kismet Gupte

First, paragraphs.

Second, why did you necropost a 6 month old thread instead of making a new one? o.0

LF

as i explained in my post i have never posted in a forum before & i did apolagise in my post if i had put it in the wrong section maybe you should read it again ?

Shame on you Kismet! You angered one of the Forum Gods!

Don't worry about it. Maybe just make a new thread. I wish i could help you with your questions.

Kismet, since no one really answered your question here...

You bought land on one of Anshe's private "Dreamland" sims, not on the Second Life "mainland." She is selling you a deed to the land, and because of private sim mechanics, the Lindens, not Anshe, required you to create that group to buy the land. You could probably sell it, but the sell would have to be facilitated through Anshe, since its a private, deed-restricted island that she owns.

It's a LOT like buying into many of the homeowners associations out there. You can sell, IF you go through them first. Buddy of mine had to wait two months before being "allowed" to put his REAL house up for sale because the homeowner's association said too many houses were for sale in the neighborhood and it looked like people were deserting.

Contact Anshe and tell her you'd like to put the land up for sale, since you bought it. She should be professional enough to allow you to do so.

Aaron

hehehe that is something i tend to be good at doing smiles innocently lol

Kismet I've had good luck getting a hold of Ansche through her website: http://www.anshechung.com/

There are forums there and also a place to buy and sell land -- but I'd try the forums first.

For whatever its worth, this is the way Ansche has to do biz because she's a reseller of land. Its not that she's trying to screw you over. In a way, you didn't actually *buy* land but, rather, leased it. There's a really good post about this here:

/130/db/64552/1.html#post676337

I was going to "buy" land from a third party on a private island but due to reading this post, I didn't. Really this sort of thing should be available on the site under land use. You shouldn't have to come searching in the forums to find this out.

Anyway from what I know about Ansche, she's an honorable businesswoman and will not do you wrong. I know some folks dislike her because she owns a lot of land but I tend to think she's running a valid business and that's a weird reason to dislike someone over. Try her forums.

Just for the record, I have never worked in a sweatshop. Sorry Just felt that this thred needed a lighter note. Honestly I dont see anything wrong with a preformace based job. "Peform or leave" This is whats wrong with America today. Cant fire anyone without being sued. I work sales IRL by choice, and with my job if I dont "Produce" I dont earn. Its the american way, or use to be.

Forgive me if this sounds stupid. But does it really make sense to force someone to make play a game so they can make pretend money to be sold for real money, but not really a lot of real money, when they could be making a pair of shoes in far less time for far more profit? Maybe somebody just doused my bleeding heart with syptic powder, but I have a really hard time believing that this type of thing would actually be going on. The monetary rewards just doesnt seem to be great enough for the effort, even if it is the effort of someone else.

You are forgiven.

This does happen. Here's a recent article. There are plenty more online if you google.
http://www.gameguidesonline.com/guides/articles/ggoarticleoctober05_01.asp

Not everybody wants to run a shoe factory. And the margins on reselling virtual currency can be significant. Particularly when compared with typical wages in a developing nation.