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Brenda Connolly
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07-18-2007 07:21
From: Kidd Krasner

and this week's winner:

OMG youve got to see this

Which is pretty much the reason I haven't looked at that thread. Just like "Must see TV'. I never watched any of those shows. Or "The feel good movie of the summer". Guess what? I don't feel like wasting my money on it.
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bilbo99 Emu
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07-18-2007 07:30
From: Kidd Krasner
My pet peeve about forums: Totally useless titles, such as:

sea

Awww, I thought this was quite succinct and to the point.

OK ... mebbe a little vague ... but it kinda pointed to the subject? ... loosely ... huh? ;)
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Brenda Connolly
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07-18-2007 07:32
From: Lucrezia Lamont
This is a curiosity of mine. Most of the people I've met seem to have it together enough in RL that they, like me, use SL as a form of entertainment/therapy/whatever but they recognize real people are behind the avatars, so generally respect others. It's almost like SL life is the double-life. Straying outside of SL context is a little off-putting.

i.e. One can be happily married in RL and both you and your spouse have SL personas that run around and play/date/meet and have fun with other SL persons. It's all cool.

BUT, what happens when you get someone who uses SL to replicate RL desires for a RL relationship etc. Enter the long distance relationship scenario and a whole host of other potentially unnerving scenarios. Mind, I know that some VR relationships that spread into RL DO work... I'm not saying they don't. But it's a tricky situation when someone like me keeps RL and SL separate -- with the exception that my personality is the same.

I'm just rambling aren't I? I'll shut up now and have some coffee. LOL

I agree with you 100%. Some Online affairs do work, but I'd wager most don't, and a good amount of those are probably messy. I make a point to let people know I have NO desire for any Real World Contact from SL. I never initiate a personal conversation with someone, and don't hesitate to inform someone that their question is not going to be answered. I've amended my profile to also reflect the seperation of spheres. my 1st ife tabshows my age and what state I live in, that should be sufficient. Any other details will be given as needed in the course of the relationship. I don't know if it is because of the influx of newbies or what, but it is a more common thing for me to have personal info become an early topic of conversation.
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07-18-2007 07:34
From: Lucrezia Lamont
I'm just rambling aren't I? I'll shut up now and have some coffee. LOL

Not rambling Lucrezia ... just I think this might have been better in the 'Taking SL too seriously' thread?

Not so much a peeve ... as a pitfall due to the comprehensive nature of SL? ... *and* I didn't need the dictionary just then!
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Colette Meiji
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07-18-2007 08:15
From: Lucrezia Lamont

BUT, what happens when you get someone who uses SL to replicate RL desires for a RL relationship etc. Enter the long distance relationship scenario and a whole host of other potentially unnerving scenarios. Mind, I know that some VR relationships that spread into RL DO work... I'm not saying they don't. But it's a tricky situation when someone like me keeps RL and SL separate -- with the exception that my personality is the same.


I have no problem with an individual wanting Second Life to be a 3d Eharmony.

I have a problem with when they expect others to use it as such, JUST becuase they do.

It doesnt matter whether or not Online can blossom into offline love or not -

Its simple respect - If you tell people up front you dont want Offline love from people you meet in SL - and thats what they are after they should try to meet someone else and not pester you.


I personally tell people I am married and not availble in Real Life right off the bat - I STILL get pestered by the SLeharmonies.
Bree Giffen
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07-18-2007 08:47
My pet peeves are:

1. Getting ruthed. I usually try to unruth myself or log out. I can't just play looking like that.

2. Seeing yourself as perfect and having someone come up to you and say, "Hey your face is white and says missing texture."

3. Friends who 'go bad' and start being really annoying to the point that you must keep yourself hidden from them and think about removing them once they log off.

4. Dragging an item from inventory to the ground and not having it appear.
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07-18-2007 09:44
1) Having to pull all my attachments out of my arse. This usually lands me in some hot water as my collar tattles on me for removing it :P

2) Blingtards

3) Gangstas, Thugz, Hoodz - often a subclass of #2

4) I don't mind helping folks figure out how to use our products, it's part of why I work there, but honestly, don't say you've read the manual several times and claim it doesn't mention x and that doing xy doesn't work, yet mysteriously after I c-n-p the directions, it magically starts working!

5) One of our items says in the manual DO NOT WEAR, I've told you 5 times not to wer it, you claim to understand, then why in Bast's name are you wearing it AGAIN!!?!?! ARRRGGGHHH!!!!

6) Business in a Box - a great idea that quickly got corrupted. Now they are everywhere, from freebies to "designer shoppes" asking 300L for a item out of the Sarabi hair collection.

7) Manners - actually the lack thereof. I greet everyone who comes to shop. Most say a quick hi and off to browse, I don't mind that :). It's the ones who don't answer and wait until you are helping someone else with a technical issue to come and rub against you and scream "omg need hepl plz, hey help, now" etc.

Granted most of the people I deal with do not fall into any of those catagories, but it's the ones who do that stick in your mind, no matter how much bleach or head2desk you use...
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07-19-2007 03:26
My pet peeves here are cliques who act like they are some elite group of people and pride themselves ......in themselves and what they have accomplished in SL. I can understand not liking something someone made, but just because you think your items are better does not give you some type of permit to treat others bad and parade around like some star. Ive just seen this here so much and its disgusting. I think there is a beauty to everyones creations, and Sl is a place we can have fun and build with not many limits, everyone is at different stages in their ability and should be left alone.

I also really hate people who try to act like some "big man" online. I may seem like im guilty of that myself with this next sentece, but I always try to make it clear that if someone wants to harrass me and act tough then they need to make sure they are in my state. I am not into internet bickering, if someone really has a problem with me and they have no problem signing in and bothering me, then they can do so as long as they live in my state and are willing to disclose to me their RL name and resident address. This isnt any type of threat on the verge of assault, but people need to remember im a human, not a computer, and I am beyond willing to show my face in real life, and if they still want to be big man then, props to them. But i`d say 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the time they wont. Im a friendly easy going person, but some people just really need to be put in their place via RL or go bother someone else. ....... Especially if LL is not going to actually "resolve" Abuse reports.

Oh, spammers bother me too.
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Brenda Connolly
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07-19-2007 04:20
Wow I didn't think someone living in Hawaii would have any peeves. I agree with you on the Creator and business Owner elitism that pops up from time to time, but that's an unfortunate growing pain. As SL gets more popular more of us 'Common" folk are going to show up. As far as your other point, I'm not sure i agree. I don't think even the most heated Forum argument is worth any type of Real Life confrontation. We don't discuss life or death here. Even the most vile personal attacks can be difused by simply walking away and ignoring the person.
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Maggie McArdle
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07-19-2007 06:38
1) people/avas..who don't respect boundaries
2) group spam..has left several groups due to this( i know many usethem to announce sales and events nd the like, but with the group spam bug still rearing its head every now and again its hard to host or DJ an event when You are responding to the chat spam instead of your guests in world)
3) clothes/shoes that look awesome in the pic, but look crappy or dont fit right when you get them home.
4)Guys who think " Hi" means "lets have Slex(sl sex)

just my 2.5 cents :)
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07-19-2007 08:20
okay, these really get to me:


1: people who come to a group venue and diss the venue, or people in it.

for example, coming to a show and tell and putting down everyone's work and insinuating you could do better with a bag tied over your head. or coming to a game and saying how lame the game is compared to the game you run, which is so much cooler.
it's just bloody rude.


2: guys reading lines out of the "newb handbook of how to have cyber sex" manual.

'wow, (insert name of female-looking-avatar-here), you look hot!' how many times have you heard this?



3: texture artists who want very much to protect their intellectual property rights, and then don't do anything to help with that.

i just got a pack of free textures, and a note with them telling me not to re-distribute them as if they are free textures. now, i'm cool with that. however, once i have these textures sorted into my texture folders with the 1200 full-perms textures, how am i going to remember which ones i can't distribute? hm?
i open one of the images, and what does the description say? '(no description)' am i surprised? sadly, not. fortunately, there weren't many, so i opened them all up and put in a non-distribution note in there!

A: put your mark on the name! some artists do that, they have their initials as the first 2 or 3 letters of each texture name.

B: put a copyright notice/non-redistribution notice in the description! dont leave it blank. don't leave it as a long directory of your local hard drive where you uploaded the texture from. put some INFORMATION in there.


4: wearable objects that are no-modify.

i can't even scale the bloody things up to fit me!


5: seventeen different outfits... that are all the same outfit, but with a different base colour.

come on, i coulda done that myself. (of course, they're all no-mod so you can't, you have to buy them all!) or at least put them all in one pack, hm?


6: the fact that i open the 'buy blah blah contents' window to look at the permissions of the included items, and even though i stretch this window the entire width of my widescreen screen.... the bloody information is cut off!

come to think of it, this needs jira attention!


7: no copy and no mod avatars.

i wanted to add claws to a certain avatar i had. well, i had to make the claws attachments for another part of the body besides where the prim paws were attached. and then when i want to make gloves, i have to make gloves w/ claws. and shirt sleeves, i have to add claws. and holdable items, i have to add claws. it really woulda been easier to just add the claws to the original paw and be done with it.


8: combat systems with bright bold text. and lots of it.

i was at an rp storytelling event.... and i swear, i could barely see the nice fantasy medieval outfits everybody was wearing through the sea of bright green text overwriting everything.



9: things that talk. that really shouldnt. REALLY!

things like food. like unborn fetuses. like sexual organs. like that thing that comes up and says its name and creator's name every bloody time someone activates their hud. i REALLY want to contact people and introduce them to the wonder and majesty that is llOwnerSay!
any why on earth do your naughty bits decide what you are doing and feeling? i mean... if you're going to cyber, shouldn't you be an active participant in this, here? instead of a doll someone clicks on five times and whoopee? uh...!??!?!?!? right, i do NOT want to know! but sheesh!
(and for crying out loud, turn those things off when you go out in public!!!)
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07-19-2007 08:23
You could really couple #2: Guys asking for Sex with #9: Things that talk that shouldn't.
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07-19-2007 08:29
From: Brenda Connolly
You could really couple #2: Guys asking for Sex with #9: Things that talk that shouldn't.

you *really* know how to hurt a guy!
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Brenda Connolly
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07-19-2007 09:08
From: bilbo99 Emu
you *really* know how to hurt a guy!

Only those that ask for it. :p

Word of advice. Guys, Women are Psychic. We know if you are going to get laid tonight.
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07-19-2007 09:32
1) Hair vendors that don't offer demos

2) Someone else said this, and I totally agree: Business in a Box

3) Camping
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07-19-2007 09:44
Newbie looking avatars who cam through closed doors and windows and then tp into your private home! Hello! If I'd wanted to give you a show while I changed, I wouldn't have closed the blinds. If I wanted you in my house, I wouldn't have locked the door. How can people be so nervy? I know that there is no real expectation of privacy in SL, but there are still areas considered private, so don't go into them. And whine about "why?" when you're ejected and banned. You already know why.
Lindal Kidd
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07-19-2007 10:18
I understand why "camping" is high on folks' lists of peeves, but there is something to be said in its favor...

I've found the outdoor gazebo at Calla's to be a very pleasant place to meet people and strike up a conversation. The Trivia Quiz is a relaxed one (unlike, say, the wild free-for-all trivia contests at Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong).

It's just a pleasant place to unwind, meet new friends, and make a few $L...plus, if the viewer doesn't crash, you might get some free hair.

Plus, the NON-camping chairs at Calla's have some very sexy sit animations built in.

Now, MY pet peeves are

1) ban lines and
2) ad farms and
3) blocked access to live water

And, oh yes...disappearing inventory and/or nondelivered items.
Lucrezia Lamont
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07-19-2007 10:24
From: Lindal Kidd
I understand why "camping" is high on folks' lists of peeves, but there is something to be said in its favor...

I've found the outdoor gazebo at Calla's to be a very pleasant place to meet people and strike up a conversation. The Trivia Quiz is a relaxed one (unlike, say, the wild free-for-all trivia contests at Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong).

It's just a pleasant place to unwind, meet new friends, and make a few $L...plus, if the viewer doesn't crash, you might get some free hair.


Exactly. I've been putting together a Newbie Kit (now working on it in earnest), and this morning I went to a couple places that had "freebie" items for newbies less than 30 days old. Well, some of them weren't free, but were L$1. I thought, "how is a newbie going to acquire a few Lindens for these "freebies"?" So for the first time I found myself writing a little missive in support of camping (in the notecard) although with the understanding that camping is no way to make serious money.
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07-19-2007 13:27
Well I have to agree with several of the posters here... I will give mine in order..

1. Rude people that seem to think my private home is an exibition peep show... I actually had someone do the "sit trick" to enter my bedroom while my love and I were.. Well enjoying each others company.. He became very rude when I ejected him and banned him.. "I just want to watch! What is YOUR problem" was what he said! Where do these people come from?

2. Rude people that seem to think my private home is some sort of public sex park.. I have come home and found them in my bed having fun.. Again very rude when I asked them to leave... "This is my home, how dare you come in here!"... To which I was told... "Everything is free here, what is your problem?" (ejected and banned)

I now have a pretty heavy security system in place.. Which is a pain and very unfriendly on my part.. But I have no choice..

3. Male Newbies walking around naked with their "parts" showing, bumping into me, and saying "U r hot! Wanna F***?" Get real guys... And does that ever work?

4.Tp'ing into a club and getting a half dozen "friend" offers from a bunch of guys that never even said "hello". Then they get mad and curse me when I decline..

I think that will do for now.. But you can see a theme here.. Rudeness.... People doing things they would never do in RL, and most acting like I am some NPC placed here for there personal pleasure...
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07-19-2007 13:36
From: Lizz Silverstar
Well I have to agree with several of the posters here... I will give mine in order..

1. Rude people that seem to think my private home is an exibition peep show... I actually had someone do the "sit trick" to enter my bedroom while my love and I were.. Well enjoying each others company.. He became very rude when I ejected him and banned him.. "I just want to watch! What is YOUR problem" was what he said! Where do these people come from?

2. Rude people that seem to think my private home is some sort of public sex park.. I have come home and found them in my bed having fun.. Again very rude when I asked them to leave... "This is my home, how dare you come in here!"... To which I was told... "Everything is free here, what is your problem?" (ejected and banned)

I now have a pretty heavy security system in place.. Which is a pain and very unfriendly on my part.. But I have no choice..

3. Male Newbies walking around naked with their "parts" showing, bumping into me, and saying "U r hot! Wanna F***?" Get real guys... And does that ever work?

4.Tp'ing into a club and getting a half dozen "friend" offers from a bunch of guys that never even said "hello". Then they get mad and curse me when I decline..

I think that will do for now.. But you can see a theme here.. Rudeness.... People doing things they would never do in RL, and most acting like I am some NPC placed here for there personal pleasure...



I think that's the plight of every female
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07-19-2007 18:25
My pet peeves...

On the forums:
1) People who respond to legitimate question topics with absolutely no useful information or anything along the lines of "I don't know."Arrg... then don't post!

2) Forum-goers who play what I like to call the posting game. That is, responding to a lengthy post by quoting it, breaking it up into many sections and critiquing each and every little piece - no matter how inane. The only thing that's worse is when people play the posting game recursively.

In world:
1) Those who don't understand what "it's not for sale" means. Over the years this has become maddening. I like to make most (if not all) of my own things in SL, which I rarely want to sell or give out. So when I'm working on something and am asked if it's for sale, I usually respond politely with a "sorry, it isn't." At least half of the time that won't be enough, as the person will continually badger me with pleas for a copy. In the past I've been caged, orbited, had my building site spammed with all manner of annoying newbie litter and the like - all because they couldn't get it through their heads that something in SL wasn't for sale.

2) People who intentionally misspell words or replace them with stupid variants. Such as substituting "this" with "dis" or replacing "with" with "wit." It's one thing if English isn't your first language, but if it is... come on folks...

3) The 300+ people who name themselves Sephiroth, Naruto, and other annoyingly popular game/anime/whatever characters. Just for the record, my name is derived from a slightly more obscure reference: the mistranslation of an item's name in an old Super Nintendo game. Two points to whoever guesses it. :D
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07-19-2007 19:07
From: Fenix Eldritch
My pet peeves...

On the forums:
1) People who respond to legitimate question topics with absolutely no useful information or anything along the lines of "I don't know."Arrg... then don't post!

2) Forum-goers who play what I like to call the posting game. That is, responding to a lengthy post by quoting it, breaking it up into many sections and critiquing each and every little piece - no matter how inane. The only thing that's worse is when people play the posting game recursively.

In world:
1) Those who don't understand what "it's not for sale" means. Over the years this has become maddening. I like to make most (if not all) of my own things in SL, which I rarely want to sell or give out. So when I'm working on something and am asked if it's for sale, I usually respond politely with a "sorry, it isn't." At least half of the time that won't be enough, as the person will continually badger me with pleas for a copy. In the past I've been caged, orbited, had my building site spammed with all manner of annoying newbie litter and the like - all because they couldn't get it through their heads that something in SL wasn't for sale.

2) People who intentionally misspell words or replace them with stupid variants. Such as substituting "this" with "dis" or replacing "with" with "wit." It's one thing if English isn't your first language, but if it is... come on folks...

3) The 300+ people who name themselves Sephiroth, Naruto, and other annoyingly popular game/anime/whatever characters. Just for the record, my name is derived from a slightly more obscure reference: the mistranslation of an item's name in an old Super Nintendo game. Two points to whoever guesses it. :D



your forum Av is scary
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07-19-2007 19:10
From: Colette Meiji
your forum Av is scary



Looks like the Burger King to me..
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07-19-2007 19:31
From: Oryx Tempel
Looks like the Burger King to me..



The Burger King is scary.
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07-19-2007 19:47
From: Colette Meiji
The Burger King is scary.
OMG yes ! Dat stoopid grin of his creeps me out. Was up wid dat?
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