*scratches her head a little* Why does everyone care all of a sudden?

Now that I's read all of dis thread up to dis point, I tink I'll pick up my dolly and go play at the playground. MOMMYYYYYYYYYY.

oh good another really sick mind. Thank you Voodoo for owning up to it. Anyone else?

Wait just a minute, are you now saying thoughts, even if not acted upon should be made illegal? You use the word "could" for the status of the victim, that means the crime has not been committed yet.

If you want to say that people who harm children should face horrible punishment, I will agree, but thoughts should never be the subject of courts beyond being used to prove motive.

Umm I think your confused, lol. I was backing what you said. Just because these sick minds do this crap in SL does not mean they won't end up doing it in real life. They need mental help.

Damn this is getting nuts on here. This entire forum is now about this crap.

Where's Dr Phil when I need him? LOL

Dr. Phil hell, lol This stuff reminds me of something you would see on Jerry Springer.

It's clear that a number of posters here have not read or not learned from the earlier thread on this subject I referenced way back at page one. All of this stuff has been written before, including the name-calling. All of it. There is virtually nothing new here except Sohpia's original defense of rationality and topical references to things that happened after that thread. And frankly, those posters were generally better than the ones here.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Please look at that thread before posting here, so you won't think you were the first one to think of accusing the opposite side of being pathologically disturbed, or some other such gambit. Believe me, it is all old news. Really old.

http://uncensored.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9741

"And you're just the one to give me that help? "

oh GOD NO . . i have alot better things to do with my time then offer help to someone who is condescending judgemental and paranoid



"Actually, I'm fine, thank you"

yah first step is admitting you have a problem



"If you can't project the possibilities of such a scenario then I believe you have a much bigger problem than I"

Oh you think so huh? i have a problem because i dont sit and contemplate all the different evil scenerios that could play out as a result of what thoughts other grown adults (people i dont even know) are projecting into their own private environments within Second Life? I have a really big problem because i dont sit and sceme, invent and obsess over the pixel sex live of complete strangers? Should i apologize for not have the proper mentality to come up with anything as sick as what you have? I think im a little more concerned with you and your obsessive nasty little thoughts about what neighbors are doing then i am by anything else.

wow just wow

I find it amazing how so many people automatically equate ageplay with pedophilia. Ageplay is the SL equivalently of a husband having his wife dress up as a cheerleader. Pedophilia is violence against helpless children. There is a huge difference between the two.

No, actually, I'm not...........Mr Counselor. I'm saying that SL should not be a platform for any criminal to congrigate, converse, compare notes, get ideas, plan or otherwise develop strategies or ways to further a criminal act. Childsex, is a crime. Allow an unchecked place for such activities is complicity. And, if you think for one minute that pedophiles will not use such an unchecked platform for their sick ambitions you are even more stupid than I think your argument is.

Quit with the psycho, legal crap..............you are showing your ignorance. It's not about that. It's about "safe harbor" for freaks, and really nasty people.

You can think and plan anything you want.......but not in Second Life. At least not if they follow through with their plans. Which I applaud. But if you are planning or talking about a crime and I hear it, I WILL report it.......especially if it's about a child.

"It's about "safe harbor" for freaks, and really nasty people."

wow . .

Well, yeah it is. What other reason for Linden Labs to put it put for possible termination of accounts?

You are smiling again in a condescending manner Peggy. Its really unattractive.

How do you know it's condenscending?

I was actually amused.

Are we now the emotion police? LOL

I'm done..............this is getting really stupid.

"Are we now the emotion police? LOL"

why not. we already have thought police telling us what to think

why shouldnt we have emotion police telling us how to feel too?

And this will stop people from talking in IM exactly how?
You do know that planning and talking are not illegal until one step of the plan has been acted upon.

You are the one who used the word "could" in relation to a victim. Peggy words mean things. Could means that the crime still has not been committed.

You get no arguement from me about child molesters being scum. But in the absence of a crime thoughts are just that thoughts.

So far, it seems to me the reasons people give who are so opposed to others "participating in pseudophilic acts" in SL (the OP's original question) in this and other threads come down to the following, in no particular order, and without considering their relative validity just yet:

1. It is harmful to children in SL.
2. Performing, advertising, or soliciting it is deeply offensive to the overwhelming majority of the SL population.
3. It might inspire RL crimes against children.
4. It is illegal to some extent in some or many jurisdictions.
5. It harms RL children (through being photographed or otherwise victimized to create visual images used in SL).
6. It is "sick." (Quotes added only to signal that this term appears to need further definition, not to indicate any judgment of it.)
7. Its existence in SL validates or supports pedophiles, at least in their own minds.
8. Its existence poses a RL threat to SL.
9. It provides an opportunity for pedophiles to associate with each other, with concomitant opportunities for mutual encouragement, exchange of ideas and pedophilic materials, and possibly even planning.

And one last one, from personal observation, that is far from least:

10. Simply a fundamental, deep revulsion that springs from the "gut" and emotion rather than the mind and intellect. (Again, no judgment is intended here, at least not yet; emotions are valid too, and both reason and emotion can be correct or incorrect.)

Have I missed any? If so, please add them.

It matters because many people like to get on their soapboxes and preach to others about how morally superior they are to others.

Or about how many are morally defiecent to others. Morals count despite your best effort to discount them. The human race would not exist without some morals.....we would devour each other.

My morals are mine and yours are yours. This is a subject that could go on forever but all I am asking is that people respect one anothers morals and don't try to regulate them with LL and government. Ones personal morals are not the same as ones actions. If someone does somthing illegal it is not a question of morals.

You must not have seen many age play photo's or GothLoli fashion. It is as close as you can get and some go to the point of getting cosmatic surgery done to press the limits even father. And isn't the whole point of Sl that you can look how ever you want to Look. Be it Human, Furry, Big, Little, Thin, Fat. Our world our imagination.

The web has never lost any steam dispite all the various fringe sex that happens. It is a Moment in time and sooner or later people should go yea so what, why did we even bother it is not all of what the SL is.

Then lets Dispand the cathlioc church, and while we are at it Schools, Other organised Relgion, and lets put every child that is born into foster care where there will be at least 3 people watching them 24/7.

Shit Happens there is nothing in the world that can be done to stop it. Life is a chance and if you ever stop takeing chances you stop liveing.

And we all should agree that SL is for those who are over 18 and if they are not it is the consern of the parents who are not watching there children, not linden labs.

You must be jokeing, rich, not been in SL that long, or just lacking in imagination. The vast majority of people Text 90+% in SL. Pose Balls are so limited, and nothing can compare to a good typed dectiption of what is happening. That is how almost All role play in SL is. It is some minor props the the Mud, Muck, Mush, IRC rooms that people have been in for ages.