Sex Gen Removed!

I didn't buy anything called sexgen but unfortunately the creator was Eva Capelini. I now have to replace 50+ beds.

For now.... but what if someone uses the scripts in a product they call "sexgen" that have Miffy as the creator? Will LL zap all his scripts too?

/me is currently cutting and pasting her MLP and MLP2 scripts into new scripts so she is the "creator".

Oh even better, what if i sell a MLP object, I leave the scripts full perm to keep with the sperit of the MLP scripts, and somebody uses then to make a "sexgen" will LL destroy all my scripts????????

50 beds or 50 copies of a bed?
i know most of mine i can copy but not transfer..wow i need to really just look in my inventory and see if those scripts are in there..there is no way to see what items are using these scripts in an inventory search is there?? i have to drop every item to see the scripts?

By the way...

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1278

is a JIRA issue basically saying "please tell us what the hell is going on". I would advise people to vote for it.

Well, at least for now, you're probably okay, because you probably did what I did: track down Miffy Fluffy's shop from Profile Picks and "buy" a free copy from there. (Not sure it's still there; I think XPOSE is the replacement or something like that.) Anyway, mine still rez and work, with Miffy Fluffy as creator. But Johnnie's point is well taken: if LL discovers tomorrow that somebody stamped "SexGen" on something with those versions inside, we could all be screwed. And she's quite correct also in recommending that in future we defeat such blacklisting of open source scripts by always copying it into new scripts with ourselves as creator. And never re-using anybody's prims or embedded script-rezzed objects.

This won't work for textures (e.g., sculptmaps), but that fiasco has its own current thread.

You all remember the ALL CAPS STOLEN BABIES thread from a day or two ago? The creator listed on these scripts was associated with that now-closed region. So it's all part of the same mess. (the sculpt map thief in the other thread was also located there.)

50 copies of a bed. But since I have to set it down 50 times over, it's all the same to me. The bed itself was 750L. Down the tubes...

so if it has miffy's in it and not eva's we are ok?

Apparently. This doesn't appear to be about Stroker really, it was a whole region full of ripped content of various sorts.

For now.... maybe.

You can't know for sure until we get some clarification from LL on what happened.

i'm starting to hear a lot of people missing animations from Ao's and things when i logged back in..
i have a feeling this is gonna be bad for a lot of people..i can't imagine how many groups are flaring right now..

Exactly. This I would bet has nothing at all to do with Stroker.

Stroker's previous lawsuit was due to somebody using an exploit to copy his scripts and copybotted the bed. That is why Stroker submitted the DMCA and brought forth the lawsuit.

Refer to this site for info:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340469,00.html

I know this now. When/If I start selling animated products, I'm going to be extra clear with signs/notecards/etc. that what I'm selling are the animations, a prim, and the textures on the prim (the parts I created). The menu system (MLP) is just being thrown in for free, and the animations set up with the MLP to save you the hassle of doing it yourself, but the MLP isn't part of the purchase price.

If I use anything that I didn't create myself as part of a product, I'll need to identify what part I did create, what I didn't create, and be clear that I only stand by the part of it I created myself.

No, after talking with live chat this was deliberate action taken by Lab. They deleted grid wide any thing with "Eva's" name on it. Only they left inventory untouched. Their answer to me was to just re-rezz everything from inventory....but to what end? So they can come along and wipe it again?

I know. Duh, right?
That is precisely why I'm just building my own now.

Who knows, really? Vote for

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1278

to get some sort of response about this random content loss.

I think what is happening is a pretty good reason for anyone retailing in SL to require to produce verified RL details to LL or the grid they are sold on. At least it's possible then to find them with a court order. If you need a "sellers licence" to recieve payments over $10L perhaps. maybe it requires you to have a 30 day bond by making you wait 30 days to recieve income or just $100US cash bond or something that gets redivided against all customers putting a claim in. Just ideas, maybe they are not good or will inspire other ideas?

Just a guess without information, but it sounds like Linden Labs isn't necessarily coherent as a whole as to what it's supposed to be doing. Maybe the legal department and the tech people haven't fully communicated with each other on what they are supposed to be doing. (It isn't the tech department's job to understand legal nuances, and whomever was sending orders from legal may not understand the technical details of how Second Life works.) Since it's the weekend, clarifications from Legal probably won't be arriving until Monday morning.

thats just the thing..why do something like this on the weekend??

That's not a bad idea. The one problem is that it does give Linden Labs a little bit of responsibility when it comes to running the system, and Linden Labs doesn't like accepting responsibility for anything. It's the kind of idea that could work, if you could convince Linden Labs that it's better off for them in the long run to address these issues, rather than letting them fester into something bigger.

"ALOT of people in sl use this 62 animation sec gen engin in there creations, but it would seem that SL have removed it from the database without ANY warning,"

I'm going to take a guess that I know what you are talking about.

There is a sex bed set with approx 62 animations in it that is being passed around. It uses MLP 1. 1 scripts, not sex gen. The first four animations in the set are:

69_F
69_M
BJ_F
BJ_M

The scripts may be the least of your worries -- most of the animations in there are pirated If you are using this set of animations without having made arrangements to licence the animations, you are using stolen material, and not having known it was stolen is not a defence. The Lindens may cause your stock and inventory to disappear just the same way they did Eva's.

If you are using this, I would urge you to either stop using these animations, or contact the animators and ask for licencing to get legal.

Here is a list of 3 animators and their works that are pirated in that set. (I am uncertain of the status of the animations in their by the few other animators who have been "honoured" to be included in the pirated set :} )

Craig Altman
couchfidget 1, couchlay2 f2, cpose3v4 f, cpose3v4 m, fcouch lay1priority4red, LS 2 static F, LS 2 static M, sit on ground F v2 retime 90 F, sit on ground m retime 90 M pr2

Nytemyst Grace
flay6, flay18, lay16h, lovefemale14, lovefemale20b, lovermale14, lovermale20

Johan Durant
ground_kiss_f, ground_kiss_m, laying_arm_across_f, laying_arm_across_m, laying_makeout_f, laying_makeout_m, laying_neck_kiss_f, laying_neck_kiss_m, laying_pinned_f, laying_pinned_kiss_f, laying_pinned_kiss_m, laying_pinned_m, laying_propped_arm_f, laying_propped_arm_m, laying_side_side_f, laying_side_side_m, laying_spoon_f, laying_spoon_m,

Now, no doubt people will say that because they didn't know these animations were pirated, that it's okay for them to keep on using them. Or that they paid someone a 100 L for the set, so they should be fine. Or that they don't care, and won't get caught.

None of the above is true. These animators know about this pirated set going around, and they are on the lookout for them, and encourage people to report sightings to them -- and they act on the report.

Don't risk your business and hardwork by using illegal stuff.

One thing I am sure of: everyone will blast me, because the messenger always gets shot.

But we need our animators, so let's make sure that we support them by using only legal versions of their work!

Here's just one guess, purely on imagination.

There's a legal problem, and lawyers on both sides are going back and forth. On Friday morning, each side is dug in to their claims. Come the afternoon, with weekend plans coming up, they start getting anxious about getting this done so they can take off early for the weekend. Lawyers start giving on things, and by 4:30 pm on Friday they've hammered out a deal. One of the lawyers hastily writes down what Linden Labs is supposed to do under the deal- and do this immediately- and faxes it in to Linden Labs right before heading out the office door to weekend plans.

Tech gets the fax, doesn't fully understand, but no one is answering the phone in the office at legal. They do the best they can with what they were told.

Until we know specifically what's going on, I think my little story in this post is probably as likely as any.

Yes, there is. Seek out the creator, and ask them via IM. Total time: 30 seconds.

Partial quote from another thread (/327/d7/257549/9.html#post1983340):

Or perhaps the legal side ordered the action to occur by midnight 15/6 not realising they had specified a weekend date or something to that effect and it arrived late in the week then bouncing round LL office for a few days as this sort of stuff does in most offices. Phillip & M not on site for the descision relay their course of action using voice and the techs get it wrong and delete the lot or perhaps the techs had no other way of deleting only some scripts. Who knows how the "delete this stuff from the world button" really works?