Sex Gen Removed!

Ok i logged on today to find that the sex gen objects that i made using the free 62 sex gen object, have all been removed, as have there scripts, so anyone who has made a sex gen object using this will now find that they no longer rez in SL, is anyone else had this problem?...and what the hell caused it?

I seem to remember there was a lawsuit involving someone copying sexgen. This might be a result of that.

yeah im just reading about the lawsuit now....but still....SL might have warned us about this and gave us some time to remove the effected scripts, now iv lost a bed that took me forever to make , not to mention it was a real work of art, now its gone, im gutted about the bed more than the scripts, as well as other object i made and fitted it to....this REALLY sucks.

is this the actual sex gen name brand you are talking about or is it something you are making ..
i know sometimes people use the word sex gen in general but not meaning the actual product..
like in the south we call all soda coke hehehe
or all tissue kleenex..

LOL...ok, it was a free sex gen object i got from somewhere, and by sex gen i mean it was basicly an object or the main part of a sex gen bed, the object that holds all the scripts,

i cant remember where i got it from but i used it to make my own sex bed and kitchen, it was free and from what im led to believe, ALOT of people in sl use this 62 animation sec gen engin in there creations, but it would seem that SL have removed it from the database without ANY warning,

Not only have the scripts been removed, but the objects they where placed in to so anything i have made and put this script in to is now gone or will not rez, so basicly iv lost ALOT of really artistic objects that took me a hell of alot of time to make, im not really that botherd about the sex gen engin part, its the fact iv lost hours and hours of work without so much as a warning from linden labs.....im gutted!

wow that is terrible..yes a warning would have been nice..
you would think there was something else they could have done instead of doing it that way..i'm sorry for your loss..

I certianly can understand and sympathise with your disgust at loosing so much work.

I strongly suspect LL got a stongly worded court order to remove anything with those scripts or be found in violation of copywrite themselves. Not sure they as a company had much choice in how it was handled. The order likely said something to the effect of "DO it now or else"

Thanx darlin, as i said its not the fact they remvoved the sex engine part, its the fact that all my hard work has just gone, or the copys will no longer rez,

im so gutted about it and as far as i know there is no help or linden staff to ask whats going on, bloody typical, they are willing to take out money yet whenever something go's wrong they scurry away and hide.......oh well...you live and learn i guess....back to the drawing board *Sigh*

Still, no reason why they can't put up a quick. "We are doing it now and here's why" post on the blog. At least some people would see it.

here is the thing..where else would a sex gen be used besides sl?? did they end their business or is stroker still around selling sex gens?
i think i had one of the purkle passion beds back before i found Defiant's devpose collection.

i may have a few sex get things that were given to me from places i have worked at also..gifts not work tools lol

Stroker copyrighted the Sex Gen name,

It was his original name from back in the day.

Later day imitators have generalized the name to profit of Sex Gen's "reputation?"

Kind of like street hustlers selling Rorrex watches.

This went on so much people thought Sex Gen wasn't a make of product but just a type of product made by lots of places.

Were these items for sale, or just things that you built and had on your own land?

If it's 62 animations, then it's probably a bed base made by someone else (not Stroker) who was producing bed bases for builders (full permissions, but with a sales agreement of the sort that often comes with animations or textures). She did have to resort to legal nastiness after the redistribution got out of hand.

hmmm..i wonder if this one bed i have has this in it..i'm gonna drop it and see if it goes bye bye..

I'd file a support ticket, stating that the item has "vanished"... give as much information as you can about it.

Remember like other have said.. "SexGen" is a specific store in SL, selling some specific multi-pose sex-beds. If you made a Multi-Pose Sex-Bed, you need to say that.. not "you made a SexGen".

I'd say there's a fair chance that this WASN'T an intentional police action by Linden Lab.. but might just be "normal, average everyday "content loss", which does not excuse the loss of your creation/object.. but may put you at some ease as to what has happened.

If LL deleted the object, then they'll tell you, and explain why. If they removed it due to copyright issues, they're required to tell you that, and you can simply request that they reinstate the object.

If they do reinstate the object, I would reccommend going through and removing all uses of the word "SexGen" (Sex-Gen, sex gen, etc).

There is only ONE person in SL allowed to make objects with the name "SexGen, and that's Stroker Serpentine. And he will sue you.

If you made it yourself, it should be relatively easy for you to remake it. I'm not saying it will be fast, but you already know how. Many times, the second time you build something, it looks better and works better than the first time. Basically:

Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start right over again.

I have just discovered the same loss of scripts, but mine weren't SexGen. I bought a set of MLP scripts nearly a year ago, bundled with a package of cuddle poses. (Later I found out all of it could be got for free, but that's another story). I used those scripts in a lot of my couches and chairs, and I've just logged in now and find that the scripts are missing from everything EXCEPT my bed! The bed uses the same MLP scripts but I had purchased it some time before the I bought the scripts. The scripts themselves are still in my inventory, but I haven't tried to use them.

Miffy's statement with the scripts says they are free to use however we wish. Why would it suddenly be a problem?

This is bizarre.

Just to be sure: there are objects in inventory but they won't rez? If that's correct, what exactly is the error message when they fail to rez?

(I'm testing the possibility that this is "asset decay" rather than a "blacklisting" enforcement--although the disappearance/removal of rez'd in-world objects suggests something else is going on, too.)

One suggestion: get thee to the Beta Grid and see if the stuff is still there, and if so whether you can save the prim parameters so you don't have to make everything from scratch. Something like SecondInventory might help (never used it myself). Obviously, if this is an IP enforcement action, the SexGen scripts and anims are all toast, but those are pretty far behind current standards anyway, so the prim work is the valuable part to save, if you can.

(ETA: Not sure if this helps, but I still have and can rez the basic full-perm MLP 1.2 distribution--the transparent blue prim with a couple hugs or something in it. Plus, the MLP script is all over outside world, and was released under BSD, so at least that stuff legally cannot disappear.)

That is what I was thinking. If they were for sale and had SexGen in the name that would explain the removal.

I'm not aware of any 'free' Sex Gen scripts. Stroker sells Sex Gen, not gives it away. If you obtained 'free' Sex Gen scripts, then you received stolen property. If you were unaware of this, then it's unfortunate. If you were aware however, it's pretty much your own fault for loosing the work you put into your object. I seriously doubt LL was 'ordered' by a court to do anything at this point. LL was just probably responding to a report filed by Stroker about that particular 'free' item that you used, and LL simply removed it as they would anyone else's stolen item. A word of caution, if some is giving away something that's sold inworld, particularly an expensive item like a Sex Gen bed, it's most likely stolen, and you're going to be in a 'use at your own risk' situation.


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Well yes and no.

Since Sex Gen is Trademarked it follows their trademark rules which are a lot more abrupt and strict.

They will remove it instantly, notification might lag a little bit.

LL is kinda lax about copyright - but not about Trademark

The people at Barbie's found that out when they just logged in one day and the entire sim name had been changed without notice.

i've dropped everything that said sex gen in my inventory and nothing went poof..
sex gen gave away a 5pose a long time ago..not sure if they still do or not that never went away..there was a bed created for a club i worked for that said sex gen on it and that stayed and a few other objects..plus anything that may have looked like it was from sex gen in animations..

like someone said..it may just be an everyday item loss..that or they are doing a specific script..
but everything sex gen or close stayed when i dropped them and let them load..
i hope this helps in some way ..

i wonder if they can lay claim to anything that said sex gen before the trade mark name was made..i wonder if there is a grandfather date or something..

I'm glad my bed's only got a sleep script - for one!

Frankly, if LL finally took some action towards doing the right thing at protecting copyright of artists here, I applaud the action, prior warning or not. As one poster stated, brush yourself off and get started again. This time however, make sure the scripts that you are using are "free" in every sense of the word.

I don't think it is a copyright or trademark issue. As I posted a little while ago, all the MLP scripts in furniture built by me are also missing this morning, on my private estate parcel and on my mainland parcel. MLP scripts are free to use and circulate.

I have rezzed another copy of the furniture and the scripts were intact. I'll check back later and see if they remain so.

I filed a support ticket, if only to find out what happened.