Sex Gen Removed!

I've been thinking about this, and it seems there's no single list of items that their creators *know* have been stolen, such as the list of stolen animations given earlier in this thread.

Prok says LL confirms to her, it is the "illegal sexgens" removed.

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UPDATE: Some people are saying it is NOT Stroker's bed, but someone else's...awaiting clarification...

No one knows what happened or why. All that is known is lots of stuff is missing. Now if it's just a "Borking." then fine that is somewhat forgivable, but if it an action taken by LL, then it is idiotic, no matter what the motivation was.

wait a sec, isn't miffy the original scriptwriter?? and this 'eva' was the infringer? to make it sound as if miffy & co. 'can't make a move until-' paints them as the offenders.

Good question. I rummaged around in Inventory and found something that looks relevant--it's MLP-scripted and has the specious "SEXGEN" label--but E.C. wasn't the creator (rather, one "L. F." born 1/28/2007). Bizarrely, it rezzes as "For Sale" at L$2000, but I'm 100% sure I never bought anything like this for L$2000! And the scripts, notecards, and embedded prim show the original MLP creator. Inspect shows the box prim to have been created 10 May 2007. Anyway, inside this thing the anims and their creators are:

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Further caveat: In addition to not knowing if these are exactly the same ones in the E.C. bed, I don't know which if any of these anims may be public domain anyway (the Damien Fate ones, maybe?), nor if some may have had names changed (some are mod perm).

You don't like to read, do you.


Prok is hardly the end-all be-all source of information.

I think the other suggestion also works: copy the open source code into your own script but set it Mod/Copy and No Transfer. The recipient still has open access to the source and can use that source in their own scripts by doing the same thing, but cannot transfer any mods they make to your script and distribute it as a griefing tool. (I suppose they themselves could grief with it, but they'll be the Owner, so determining guilt shouldn't be too tough.) The only minor advantages to this approach are that you don't have to transfer the extra notecard, and the recipient can see the code formatted a little more legibly in a script than in a notecard and can make quick changes for their own use without the extra step of copying the notecarded source back into a new script.

Good that you mentioned in another post that as open source, the original author isn't responsible for support (except in this case with a special donation, as noted in another post). So, really, to keep people from contacting that author, the scripts really should have been treated this way all along (although, in practice, people contact the prim creator for support, regardless of who made the scripts--a hazard to folks like Ziggy when they distribute great stuff like ZHAO 2).

If you scroll back through the thread there is a post from Stroker Serpentine saying that this isn't a SexGen issue (and he should know!), and I suspect whoever Prok spoke to in concierge probably used the term sexgen as a generic term!

The SexGen case, if I recall, was against someone selling "exact" copies of the SexGen bed (which is clearly illegal), and against people using the SexGen trademark to name their products. It wasn't against anyone selling their own multipose furniture (assuming they had the right to all the scripts, animations, poses etc.)

Miffy (Muffy) sometime ago wrote a multi-pose furniture script MLP and has updated it since. This is freely available both inworld and on the forums under a BSD license which permits it to be reused, resold, copied and modified etc. Although this performs a similar function to the SexGen script - it isn't in itself a copyright/trademark violation of SexGen (putting it in an item with some stolen SexGen animations and/or calling your product with this script in SexGen would be however).

Someone called EC created a new script and copied the MLP code into that script (perfectly legally within the BSD license). It seems that this script was made available in world (again perfectly legally even if EC charged for it). People used this script in their creations - again nothing wrong here. However, EC also used this script in some of EC's creations which did violate some copyright or trademark.

As a result LL over-reacted by deleting not only the items of EC's which violated copyright etc. but also all copies of the MLP script created by EC even when that script was being legally used in object which in no way violated copyright.

Matthew

Prok was told by LL it was "Illegal Sex Gen" removed. That is not Prok making something up.

That LL obviously has blundered in how they did this is obvious. That you or other Kool Aid kids can't figure out who is really at fault, is no surpirse.

Prok was told by LL it was "Illegal Sex Gen" removed. That is not Prok making something up.

That LL obviously has blundered in how they did this is obvious. That you or other Kool Aid kids can't figure out who is really at fault, is no surpirse.

they can still change the script to a money event, and then your name is on the script draining bank accts. No thanks, I don't want the headaches. They will remain no mod and source provided upon request.

Except if they can't transfer it, the only balance that could be drained by llGiveMoney() would be their own. They could put a money() handler in it and lure people to Pay it, I suppose, but it would be quite a stretch to fault the original scripter for how an owner configured what amounts to a vendor.

Who is at fault? Eva Capalini and Lori Arado (from the other thread). It is painful, but RIGHT for these things to be removed from the grid, as a matter of respect to content creators. What is dumb is that LL is leaving inventory copies.

it happened already to Moopf Murray, who made my vendors, because his vendor was used to sell the copybots. As his name was on the vendor prims and scripts, people abuse reported him, not the owner. He got an official warning from LL over something that was not at all his fault. Later withdrawn, but very nerving for him.

I'll play it safe.

I already get it. LL is absurd and do everything wrong and wash their hands of all responsibility while people chatter on the forums and allow them to get away with it.

I already get it. LL is absurd and do everything wrong and wash their hands of all responsibility while people chatter on the forums and allow them to get away with it.

Your abusiveness doesn't change the fact that Prok was misinformed, and is awaiting clarification. As has been said, the person Prok spoke to was probably using the term SexGen generically.

Who is at fault? Eva Capalini and Lori Arado (from the other thread). It is painful, but RIGHT for these things to be removed from the grid, as a matter of respect to content creators. What is dumb is that LL is leaving inventory copies.

Do not Confuse MLP and the freebe junk scripts with Authentic SexGen, if you have an Authentic SexGen Product Purchased at Strokerz Toyz or one of thier affiliate vendors this problem will not effect you or your items. Only Freebe Scripts you can get in almost any freebe or 10$L reseller store is effected. Serves people right for Ripping off and Stealing others creative ideas! SCORE 1 For Linden Labs against the Content Thief problem!

Do not Confuse MLP and the freebe junk scripts with Authentic SexGen, if you have an Authentic SexGen Product Purchased at Strokerz Toyz or one of thier affiliate vendors this problem will not effect you or your items. Only Freebe Scripts you can get in almost any freebe or 10$L reseller store is effected. Serves people right for Ripping off and Stealing others creative ideas! SCORE 1 For Linden Labs against the Content Thief problem!

As soon as Stroker's creator rights were violated, LL should have dealt with it on the spot.

It's LL that has to police their world, if they have any intention of hanging around.

The same thing happened to me over my dance machine.

The code was modified into a money event and alot of people, expecting to dance... got stung.

The person doing it was banned for permissions abuse and they changed the color of the money dialog.

A bandaid solution, yet the underlying problem still remains.

Obviously they used the term Sex Gen in the generic way. Saying the "Illegal Sex Gen," clearly means they are referring to non-Stroker "Sex Gen"

But instead of attacking just the "Illegal Sex Gen" they have removed, other people's work and done so with no common sense or effort to protect content. LL should have taken responsibility from the beginning---the instant they saw copying going on--and created a system that prevented it.

The offenders are to blame yes, but LL is even more to blame. Instead they wait for it all to explode and then take an even more idiotic action.

And then on top of all this. People will defend LL and say, "they aren't responsible."


As soon as Stroker's creator rights were violated, LL should have dealt with it on the spot.