Is having a Premium acct. worth it?

If you want to be an SL Real Estate Speculator, and buy and sell Mainland, then a Premium membership is worth while, I suppose. But for anyone else, the only way it is more cost effective than remaining Basic and buying L$ is if you purchase and hold precisely 512 M2 of land, and no more, and pay annually for the Premium membership. Then the free tier on that 512 M2 of land plus your L$300 stipend comes out to just about exactly what an annual membership costs.

Personally, I don't like the completely un-regulated mainland, and I won't stoop to the tactics that a real estate speculator in SL must do to compete with the land bot owners and the ad farm extortion crew. So I will never, ever pay a single L$ for mainland.

If LL wants more people to become Premium members, then they need to end the "Wild West" mentality of mainland anarchy, and start enforcing reasonable zoning and resident dispute management. As long as the value and beauty of a mainland build can be destroyed by encroaching ad farmers and griefer builds, with no recourse but to "work it out between the residents" (IE: Pay the extortionist their blood money to go away), Mainland will have little value for anyone who really wants to create something worthwhile.

If you're truly interested in owning land, and placing a legitimate business on the property, I suggest you get creative. What about purchasing land slightly larger than needed, and utilizing a buffer-like cushion zone to keep undesirable locations further from view.

If your budget is too tight for that, then perhaps you should more wisely select your neighbors and/or location.

If none of this appeals to you, you can find a wonderful office space on the myriad island sims that are creating intelligent, classy office space.

Don't bitch about your crappy land and location...you have the power to move. Just like in real life...stop complaining about the ghetto...and get the hell out of it! Don't tell me you can't move because so and so, and so forth...you always have the power to make something happen.

Does this mean I think LL should just allow any form of land abuse. Heck no, but I certainly don't think they should force EVERY one to pay to play. I pay rent...I AM paying to play.

Mainland will never be the tightly-controlled utopia seen in the private islands. That is precisely the reason I value it.

I am not a skilled builder nor a talented artist. My work runs from simple to mundane to just plain sucky. But as crappy as my artistic expression may be, it is mine and I refuse to let someone else put limits on it.

The freedom offered on the mainland is important to me, so important that I am willing to accept OTHER people's freedom as well. I let them build what they want, and in return, I get to build what I want.

So please... NO zoning on the mainland. Leave it to the people who love it for what it is.

The real world is filled with ads, trash, griefers, junk, bad design, mean people, uncooperative people, strange laws, etc, etc...


Is it any less beautiful to you?

SL inherently mimics the RL--both in good and bad. The bad which is apparent in either reality, does not overpower the good. The bad will never completely vanish...so just send that negative energy elsewhere, and focus on positive expression. It's all about attitude.

You have to open your eyes. Stop being cattle.

Try reading "The Secret."

my stipend arrived horrah, running shopping lol

And so is SL.... Lineage I & II... Everguest I & II... Ultima Online... City of Heros/Villians... Asherons Calls... Dark Ages of Camelot.... Star Wars Gallaxies... Horizons...

Ermm... You were saying?

Morwen.

Not in my neighborhood.

Exactly my point! You make what you desire a reality.


And Morwen,



What'chu talkin' 'bout Willis? You make no sense. You're agreeing with me if I'm not mistaken. I'm simply saying that both games and real life have ads and clutter...this does NOT make them any less beautiful. You can see the beauty in the break-down...just like the song says. And if you want to create your own utopian environment...more power to you. You have that ability.

well, yes, rl neighbourhoods full of ads, trash,mean people, etc are def less beautiful to me. i dont see the positive upside of such a place, nor how that makes me part of some herd mentality.

You're thinking inside the box still. I'm talking about existence...life, the universe. Your perception.

It's all about how you perceive this reality. You have to see beauty and purpose in the chaos.

ahh. if it is _my_ perception wtf are you to tell me whether its inside the box or not?
reality is absolute. your perception of reality is as inconsequential to reality as mine.
do not even imply that i follow a herd akin to 'cattle', am a lemming, or have an inferior understanding of absolute reality.
if you persist i will school you.

And everything?

How do you know?

How COULD you know?



We have no way to experience reality outide our perception of it. Perception is not inconsequential. Perception is everything.



Yep. And thanks for all the fish.

Can I use that? That's perfect. The rest of the existential babble you can keep.

You are so welcome.

are you suggesting it is relative? is reality dependant upon something to validate it? no. no matter what your or my opinion is, it does not change what is. reality is a singular truth, and nobody knows what the singular truth is, but it is completely illogical that two of them can possibly exist.


only to you. your perception of reality does not shape reality! people that profess this ability are mentally ill.

"It's all relative, baby." Albert Einstein

Or was it Austin Powers?

I think someone mentioned thinking outside the box earlier?

I threw a hint of unconventional philosophy at you. I don't often do that because I understand it makes many people uncomfortable. I assure you I am not mentally ill, just exceptionally intelligent and willing to explore interesting ideas combining elements of philosophy, neurophysiology, and advanced physics.

But obviously I digressed from the point of the thread. Perhaps you should school me too, to get my great big thoughts back inside that tiny little box.

Thosands that would probably pay if they had too, you are wrong we don't HAVE to pay, we could all stop paying give back our islands you lkeep visiting, stop putting money in to buy the things the thousands of content creators make after all they should give it all to everyone for free too.
Yeah it's not World of Warcraft, people there have a right to whine about service they pay for but seldom need to................................

No. Next question.

you have not answered the question. what is reality dependant upon, and if it is not absolute what is it relative to?
i do not care if you feel my thinking is outside the box or not. sometimes being outside the box makes you a fool.

Are you an alt of Elex Dusk? If not, you should add him to your freinds list. You seem to have a lot in common.

Anyway it should be obvious reality is dependant on me. You are just a figment of my imagination.

that may be your perception, but that does not make it reality.
its pretty elementary, but have fun arguing it amongst yourselves anyway.

Sort of being "On the outside looking in."

Your perception doesn't necessarily equal reality either.

Personally, I tend to view it as a 'yours, mine, and the truth' equation...I may view something one way, someone else another, but that doesn't make either of us wrong. Or perhaps we're BOTH wrong, but as long as it's working for us, who cares? With a few exceptions, life is not about absolutes.