Will you use " Age and Identity Verification in Second Life " ?

Which is why I voted No.

Additionally, this process is going to prove nothing. As others have pointed out, this will just give identity thieves a new market to sell their stolen information.

Lastly, I took a look at the Identity website. Excuse me, but it looks like a web 2.0 startup, not an established security company. Not that I have anything against Web 2.0 startups, but those startups aren't in possession of my personal data.

Nope, this is normal for nationals over here. It's one of the reason we have a passport or European ID, to use it in this way. Completely government supported and in some cases government compulsory.

From their website, I got the impression that Integrity already has your personal data--that is, they have access to databases of government-issued ID:

Funny... very funny... i have the picture in my mind of a minor sneaking into his parents room while they sleep, with a pair of scissors.....

I will not support this system by flagging my land as 'adult'. But I think I will put up a barrier parcel that requires residents to click 'I Agree' to certify that they are of age and do consent to exposure to mature sexual and social situations before they can enter. If they later cry abuse, then I'll point out that they abused the estate access policy by certifying dishonestly.

i just cannot answer this poll. as it stands now, the answer is no. but if prior to implementation linden lab makes alternative arrangements which don't involve the export of sensitive documentation to the United States, then i might just say yes.

any number of international credit reference agencies bound to the data protection jurisdiction of my country can verify my age and identity (Equifax for example), but no, Linden Lab just had to choose the one firmly rooted in San Francisco, with no international presence at all.

as it is right now, i don't really see a future for myself in second life anymore..but that's fine. i bowed out (bar the odd weekly visit) last november after LL's sim price increases were announced. i was infuriated at the way news was leaked beforehand, not to mention the farcical damage limitation exercise and double-speak that left people even more confused every time the lab opened its collective mouth. they lost a lot of trust with me back then. i'm just glad this flawed verification policy was announced before i managed to invest in land again (i'd settled on a large commercial parcel in one of Anshe's Plush sims last night, just minutes before the verification story was published. talk about close.)

i'll hold off. see how it plays out. but it sounds to me like the deal with Integrity was done and dusted long before the residents were allowed to have an opinion on the matter.

I suspect you are correct. I think it will work like this (for US residents; others likely similar):

You enter your address and last four digits of your SS#. They look up your full SS# from your address. Since they already have your SS# this is just to verify that you are who you say you are (the digits you give match those on file). If your SS#, which again they already have, is for someone of legal age and living at the address you give, they tell LL you are verified.

If any of the info doesn't match, they will likely have to ask you for your whole SS#. Like, say, if their address record isn't up-to-date because you've moved recently.

Just a hunch, but, well, how else would it work with only the last four digits. They must already have the rest.

There is another possibility (as purely conjecture as what you said by the way): maybe they don't have your SSN, but are allowed by the government (who does) to say: "we have this name and adress, and such-and-such last four digits of a SSN. Do they match?" Then the government official simply confirms or denies. That way only the government has your SSN, and Integrity can still use only the last four digits to confirm your identity. (this is accurate because the chances of successfully guessing the last four digits of the SSN associated with a name is 1 in 10.000)

Again, I have no idea if this is how they do it or if this is allowed under US Law, but in theory it is possible.

Well Folk's at the time of writing this post it stands at 23 to 40 , Again thanks for your input on the poll .

I realise i limited the poll to a simple Yes , No ... I did it for a reason , I knew it would provoke you into sayin your Why's .

i could have added Or . X ... or Or Y ... But that would have been me just breaking down my reason's and not yours , Thanks for taking part

I honestly don't know if I will verify my age for two reasons: 1) I don't often (ever?) visit "adult content" areas and probably more importantly 2) am completely not comfortable providing my SS# to any third party through Linden Lab. I would need a lot more information on how it works....at this point, it doesn't appear worth it to me. But I would still vote "unclear" if that were an option.

I won't since Ive already have gave my cc number to LL, and I don't feel safe giving out my SS numbers. But its too early to say how bad or good of the impact the system will have.

Why can't Sl use the same kind of system PayPal uses for their Verified accounts? You need a checking account w/ debit card or a credit card to be verified. Most teens don't have either and if they do I would imagine they are mature for their age. This would keep 99 % of the kids out and also limit the ALTs!, You can only use your banking information on one account with Paypal, If you want an ALT you would have to supply a Different CC or bank account#. Seems pretty simple to me! Then I wouldn't have to pay out more to be on SL!!!

I voted yes, cuz as a child avatar, it's been made clear dat I dun have much of an option but to do this :-/

Mari

I wouldn't have a prob with it depending on the company that they are using. My only problem is that almost every time i have had to use an age verification system for something I always have the problem that they can't verify my age and i have to snail mail the company a ton of documentation. This has been happening since i was 18 (6 years ago).

I'll certainly attempt to use it. I'm not sure how simple or hard they're going to make it for US citizens who are not US residents (I haven't used my SS# in, oh, 12 years and its certainly not associated with any address I've lived at for the last 15 years) but they're welcome to whatever I've got. I don't think my passport's expired yet...

I think it's too intrusive, and I don't understand why it has to be.

Maybe part of it is because they were TOO open for a while there, and now they have to take more strict steps than they would have otherwise.

In any case, I put that I will do it. I'm not the slightest bit interested in porn, but I would absolutely HATE being somewhere (not to mention paying good money to be somewhere) and not be able to access all of it.

In addition, I sometimes get TP'd to place that friends enjoy, which have escorts and the like, and it would just be crazed to be blocked from places like that.

coco

I would expect the 60 percent of you that voted no to immediately uninstall your SL and go bye bye!

Not gonna repeat myself yet again lol, so the simple answer is - Not a chance If that means cya SL, it means Hello SL competition

Why? I would expect the 60 percent of people who said no to not, you know, buy porn.

I like porn just fine, but I don't buy or sell it in SL. Like Coco, however, I'm perfectly prepared to hand over my personal data to have the same full acess to SL I've always enjoyed.

PLUS I see huge benefits to this for non-adult reasons. I'd be VERY VERY happy to flag my home plot as Adult just to keep 90% of the wanderers by out non-obtrusively.

even if that statement is true, what has that got to do with giving yet more personal details over to a site thats well known for breaches? I honestly cant understand? CC details prove you're 18 or over, and if a minor used them, it's not LL's responsibility. You can argue with me till you're blue in the face but that is the fact. This ID system has NOTHING to do with age.

UM....what competition?????


I do agree that conditions for verification are a little to strict across the board for International users, but I do beleive every nation has a form of personal identification, and that should be scanned and emailed to LL......

This is a across the board measure, it will have to be refined, and it will be refined. instead of flaming the L out of LL you should act more like a adult and understand why they are doing it and try to give what information you feel comfortable with

As I said, I'm not going to repeat myself. I've said my bit in the blog and in this section of the Forum. Please don'y try to insinute age by a reply in the blog that you didnt read properly. Theres a good kid (not nice huh)

This is not yet a yes or no question. It depends on what information is required. I would give name, zip code and birth date, as someone suggested might be sufficient, but only if I started to be denied access to things I want (like skins and dance clubs). I would not give SS# in any case.

If your not going to repeat yourself, why do you keep repeating that your not going to repeat yourself? lol...oh yah, this isnt a the blog, and wher did i say anythign about age? man some people just want to start a fight everywhere they go