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Will you use " Age and Identity Verification in Second Life " ? Post a PollYes i will .
68 (36.6%)
No i will Not .
118 (63.4%)
Total votes: 186
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Lostmedia Ares
Drinking tea
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Posts: 290
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05-05-2007 08:31
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Lostmedia Ares
Drinking tea
![]() Join date: 6 Sep 2006
Posts: 290
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05-05-2007 08:53
Thanks for your time guys / girls
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Prodigal Maeterlinck
Registered User
Join date: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 136
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05-05-2007 09:01
I think it's inanely beyond the reasonable means land owners are already provided with to bar minors from content, it's obnoxious to my land residents and expect it to be hurtful to my business. There is already a 'mature' flag, isn't there, and the ability to restrict the land to those verified with CC or bank account info? How is this redundant 'adult' flag and invasive demand for personal information going to change the fact that anyone can create any content they like and apply whatever label they like to it?
For the inconvenience of it, not to mention the insult of expecting money for such inconvenience, LL is going to be no better equipped to police the content generated by residents. |
Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
![]() Join date: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,633
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05-05-2007 09:02
I won't use it because I'm not into porn or xxx stuff so I don't need to be verified or deal with flagged parcels.
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Denise Bonetto
Registered User
![]() Join date: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 705
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05-05-2007 09:05
From what I think it all means, I wont need to get verified. Of course, until we get more info, we don't really know to what extent things need to be marked as adult.
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Roxie Marten
Crumedgeon
![]() Join date: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 291
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05-05-2007 09:08
More than happy to verify my age.
Using this meathod not a snow balls chance in hell will I use it. Rox |
2k Suisei
Registered User
Join date: 9 Nov 2006
Posts: 2,150
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05-05-2007 09:08
I won't use it because I'm not into porn or xxx stuff so I don't need to be verified or deal with flagged parcels. Some people may rate their sim mature to help keep the kids away. |
Suzy Hazlehurst
Offensive Broad
![]() Join date: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 323
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05-05-2007 09:12
Absolutely, and I actually hope this is just a first step towards verifying all residents, whether they go to Mature or PG areas. As far as I'm concerned, this was long overdue.
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Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
![]() Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
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05-05-2007 09:13
To be fair, if LL came up with a system which didn't require giving away passport or national ID data away, I'd consider it. No way would I give out that kind of data to an offshore company, and usually not even to an onshore one unless they were planning to pay me large sums of money.
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Mitsou Fraisse
Absolute Beginner
Join date: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 38
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05-05-2007 09:16
I said I would not use the verification process because of my concerns with sensitive information potentially floating around some company's database.
I do hope, however, that I would be able to access my own house without such verification, as it is located in a "mature" sim, Caledon Tanglewood ![]() |
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
![]() Join date: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,821
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05-05-2007 09:18
Absolutely, and I actually hope this is just a first step towards verifying all residents, whether they go to Mature or PG areas. As far as I'm concerned, this was long overdue. Perhaps it was, that's a pretty hot topic for debate, but I think the current point of contention is how it's being implemented. And despite my initial enthusiasm, I am not completely confident that I like the way it's being implemented. For myself, I currently plan to have no part in it until circumstances force the issue. When and if that ever happens, I will be better informed and able to see all of the issues that will by then have arisen. . _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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05-05-2007 09:28
I willl not compromise my security. But I will follow other avs who will wait and see - it will certainly curtail my activities. From today, I shall spend no more money in SL buying stuff. I wanna be ready to cash out at any time.
By the way land prices will fall as people leave - anyway it will be a bland and very "Americanized" sl rather than a spicy and intriguing world that attracts the interest of many of us. |
2k Suisei
Registered User
Join date: 9 Nov 2006
Posts: 2,150
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05-05-2007 09:31
To be fair, if LL came up with a system which didn't require giving away passport or national ID data away, I'd consider it. No way would I give out that kind of data to an offshore company, and usually not even to an onshore one unless they were planning to pay me large sums of money. How about we all send pubic hair to Linden Lab? |
Samantha Goldflake
Registered User
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Posts: 178
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05-05-2007 09:39
I voted no, but I fear I'll be forced to bend over... Unless I make an act of extraordinary courage and I leave SL altogether.
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Har Fairweather
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,320
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05-05-2007 09:45
The only two choices were yes (my pick, with trepidation), or no. If there had been a choice of Yes, but only if it's done right, I would have picked that, and I bet a lot of other people would too.
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2k Suisei
Registered User
Join date: 9 Nov 2006
Posts: 2,150
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05-05-2007 09:46
I voted no, but I fear I'll be forced to bend over... Unless I make an act of extraordinary courage and I leave SL altogether. ![]() |
Suzy Hazlehurst
Offensive Broad
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Posts: 323
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05-05-2007 09:47
Perhaps it was, that's a pretty hot topic for debate, but I think the current point of contention is how it's being implemented. Which is exactly the part of the fuss I don't get. Copies of my passport and drivers licence are already all over the place. Maybe it's a cultural difference. Where I live credit cards are much less common than in the US, and passports and drivers licences are the method of choice when it comes to identity/age verification, often by providing a copy (or having a copy made). Even my phone company has a copy of my drivers licence (made right there at the store where I bought my mobile phone, I also had to provide a bank statement), as does a night club (actually a copy of my passport, which also contains my social security number, also made right there). LL would just be one more for me. |
Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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05-05-2007 09:50
Which is exactly the part of the fuss I don't get. Copies of my passport and drivers licence are already all over the place. Maybe it's a cultural difference. Where I live credit cards are much less common than in the US, and passports and drivers licences are the method of choice when it comes to identity/age verification, often by providing a copy (or having a copy made). Even my phone company has a copy of my drivers licence, as does a night club. LL would just be one more for me. Suzy, providing companies and other private citizens with copies of your passport suggests you may be an expatriate in the country where you live. BUT where I live any company requiring passport verification would be in serious trouble. |
Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
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Posts: 1,300
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05-05-2007 09:57
Suzy, providing companies and other private citizens with copies of your passport suggests you may be an expatriate in the country where you live. BUT where I live any company requiring passport verification would be in serious trouble. ha. Even when I was living expat, I didn't give out my passport that freely. _____________________
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Pie Psaltery
runs w/scissors
![]() Join date: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 987
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05-05-2007 10:04
I'm just hoping it drives enough people off the grid that I can actually use it.
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Alazarin Mondrian
Teh Trippy Hippie Dragon
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Posts: 1,549
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05-05-2007 10:10
I'm just hoping it drives enough people off the grid that I can actually use it. Shhhh, you're giving the game away, Pie. _____________________
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Coyote Momiji
Pintsized Plutonium
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 715
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05-05-2007 10:11
Which is exactly the part of the fuss I don't get. Copies of my passport and drivers licence are already all over the place. Maybe it's a cultural difference. Where I live credit cards are much less common than in the US, and passports and drivers licences are the method of choice when it comes to identity/age verification, often by providing a copy (or having a copy made). Even my phone company has a copy of my drivers licence (made right there at the store where I bought my mobile phone, I also had to provide a bank statement), as does a night club (actually a copy of my passport, which also contains my social security number, also made right there). LL would just be one more for me. You may be perfectly comfortable with this. That's fine. I'm perfectly comfortable with some things you'd probably faint at. That's fine. I don't expect you to have my comfort levels - that's called manners. |
Gillian Vuckovic
Purple Power!
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Posts: 176
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05-05-2007 10:11
I really can't answer either way.
I have no problem verifying my age but I would have thought I did just that when I gave my credit card details. Now I'm to do what exactly? Give my passport number? That sounds pretty unwarranted to me. If the age thing was such an issue then why were people ever allowed to sign up without a credit card in the first place? The fact that you can opt out and remain on the gird which is supposed to be restricted to over 18 anyway adds a further layer of redundancy to the whole thing. I'm not even sure why I have reservations about giving out my passport info, I might have been ok giving it to LL but a third party just adds to my uncertainty. What will not verifying still allow me to do? I doubt its simply the porn that others claim. Will some shops become off limits? Whole sims become no go because they don't want underage people showing who, might I add, shouldn't be on in the first place. Is violence covered? Foul language? What exactly is the teen grid for? ![]() |
DaveMongoose Drake
Registered User
Join date: 3 Apr 2006
Posts: 4
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05-05-2007 10:13
I would propose that as many residents and land owners as possible *boycott* this change, i.e. don't verify, and don't mark parcels as adult.
There are better ways to keep minors off the grid, such as bringing back credit card verification for free accounts. LL claimed this was putting people off joining, but surely having to provide proof of age will do the same? Also, the suggestion of paying a fee to have your age verified (once off? once a month? when you access content? LL didn't make clear) seems simply to be a L$ sink and a new incentive to upgrade to premium, nothing more. I would raise the point about countries where there isn't a recognised form of ID, or where no age verification company operates... they may be a minority of residents but they *are* residents. Are they expected to send personal identification by mail to an overseas company? I certainly won't be posting my passport anytime soon... |
Coyote Momiji
Pintsized Plutonium
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 715
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05-05-2007 10:14
I have no problem verifying my age but I would have thought I did just that when I gave my credit card details. ![]() EXACTLY. Many of us who joined before 6/6/06 have provided information - sometimes multiple times - to LL to be able to access the full span of the grid. The constant hoop jumping is getting tiresome, and while I might trust VeriSign to do this, I do not trust Integrity. |