Selling on Xstreet just got more expensive

That's a great idea.

Can someone email me (or PM - tho technically it will still be under the "non-compete" clause coz it's on LL's servers) the top 3 non-LL sales sites? I've been out of the link for a while and don't know what's out there these days. [email]orxytempel@yahoo.com[/email]

I'd definitely put up a sign in my shop, but wonder if that wouldn't also fall under the "non-compete" clause.

A lot of NPIOF have access to funds....there are about dozen 3rd party Exchange sites i can think of where one can obtain Linden dollars.
I had one guy sell 1/2 million Lindens last Saturday through one of my ATM's and was NPIOF. Obviously he must be running a successful business in-world to generate that sort of amount. Some of those NPIOF's contribute more towards the SL economy than regular PIOF players do.

I discussed making a board for my shop with a link to the blogorum post and a summary of what's going on, plus where I can now be found. Site it right between the lucky chairs, for optimal exposure.

Wow.. LL really should be concerned, because a lot of residents are actually working together with very little in bickering that usually occurs. THAT and a lack of LoLcats is a pretty good indicator that LL has it's head up it's ass.

If they go ahead with this, I'll be removing my listings and moving to another venu.

XStreet isn't my main income source anyway; I provide it for convenience.

And the funny thing is I have a number of dollarbies (mostly under an alt) that are purely pro-bono work (e.g., MLPV2, Easy Sit Target Positioner).

Why do I list them for L$1? Two reasons.

1) I found that when they were free, I "sold" over 10 times as many. If people are buying for free something they wouldn't spend L$1 on, most likely they don't need it at all. (That was when every newb got L$300 or so pocket money to start out -- this argument might not be valid today.) I figured the L$1 charge helped reduce asset server clutter and load on SLX servers.

2) I wanted SLX to get a little profit from the service, even though the $L wasn't significant to me.

So, the least I'll do is reduce prices from L$1 to L$0, seeing that LL wants to discourage dollarbies.

But frankly, I don't like the tone of this, and I don't need it. They can do without the profit they make on my items.

BTW, their claim about unavailable assets is BS. They could easily scrub for that.

In any case, we should all vote with our products and our lindens. LL enjoys a huge benefit from its ownership of XStreetSL. We need to let them know that they shouldn't abuse it.

I'm not going to pull out, but XSL is now just like any other mall space, and if the cost of the space doesn't bring in a profit I'll have to reconsider.

Thank you so much! LOVE it and will be wearing it regularly!!!!

I'm with ya, Melita! You're just stating it better than I.

(This is also starting to sound like the rationale for the U.S. government trying to ram the "Health Care Bill" down our throats. But...I'll leave that for another day. )

I hadn't thought of that angle. When will the LL "Crap Police" (no pun intended...much) dictate which in world stores sell crap and which sell quality and who makes that decision.

As the ole saying goes...paraphrased...One man's crap is another's treasure.

I really have to start reading entire threads before responding...but great minds, etc.

Plus my main reason for this question (which I asked near the beginning of the thread as did Ralektra...but it seems LL hasn't made a ruling on that yet) is that I would like to deactivate seasonal items and reactivate the popular ones each appropriate holiday season.

There is a rule on XStreet that once an item is deleted it can NEVER be put back on again. (I had a long talk with a service rep on this when I wanted to change names on some of my products and was told how to do this). If I can deactivate certain items without the 10L charge...I'll leave them there...but if even deactivated items will be charged...I'll take them off as well.

If anyone sees an official post on this, I think a lot of us would love to see the decision if you could point us to it. Thanks!

Amen, brother.

I'm not so sure about that. I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today who is not a merchant, never reads the forums and spends 99.99% of her time in the club scene.

I just briefly mentioned when she called that I was in the process of reading this thread about the new listing costs on Xstreet and without another word from me she said, "Oh, yeah. I've been hearing all about that."

Word of mouth travels quickly.

I believe those heads look like this...

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Pink Linden said these today in her group chat.



I don't know if Pink's word is good enough. 2 days before the Xstreet price surprise Pink wrote this in the blog.

Given the direction of other decisions, I think they may very well kill free accounts. You may see temporary guest accounts, with no permanent free accounts. They seem to be targeting the corporate element with these stand-alone versions of Second Life that are separate from the grid. If they aren't marketing to corporations based upon the current grid, having high resident numbers is not as important.

Why wont they be charged?

Ooh maybe I should go inactive

I'm doing my best to make people aware. Those that stop in my shop will be see a sign that when clicked will give a notecard that has what it up, how it will effect ME and where to find more information and voice their opinions.

I just read the 3 x office hour transcripts that were suppose to be the backbone of these latest decisions. The majority talks about Freebies and Demos and what should be done.....Colossus presented 5 options to the people that attended (it seemed like 40-50 people max across all 3 meetings with some attending each one) . No where in those transcripts was there any discussion about charging 10 L per item per month for products listed at 50L and over.

This is the kind of underhandness that it makes it impossible to trust any of the Linden employees when discussing proposals for policy changes.

Free != NPIOF!

Okay. Then I think they may kill all NPIOF accounts, except for providing temporary guests accounts. They are moving in the direction of not letting people play for free.

Or alternately, they will require a premium account for mainland, but let NPIOF accounts on estates.

You think it's crazy now, but I'm bookmarking this thread to show you a few months from now I guessed it correctly.

I've been tracking the item counts for XstreetSL over on SLU, and sometime around midnight SL time last night, we suddenly went from negative 1000 items per hour, to flat. I dont think that all of a sudden the people stopped unlisting things. If anyone has snapshots of the item counts at times around then, I could use some more data points to see what happened when.

/me goes off to verify item counts manually with the listings....

Yes, it appears they are messing with the numbers. You can find out how many actual listings there are by going to the last page-1 in columns of 3 @ 30 per page, plus the leftovers on the last page.

Here are some examples:
..................................Claimed .....Actual
A&V/Music.................1792.............1783
Business/Furniture......2520............2504
H&G/Furniture/Home Office 1551.....1513

The total mismatch adds up to 63 items or just over 1%, which is about the previous trend for the main categories.

Kinda sad they now have to lie to cover up the mass exodus.

Actually about 2 years ago I predicted we would see a deal where NPIOF act would be restricted to PG land. Would have much the same effect.

Realistically if they were to do away with free acts they would have to make some changes in other ways. They would either have to grandfather exiting NPIOF acts OR lift the restrictions on alts and how many you can give one Credit card for to make them PIOF. Otherwise they are gonna see a mass exodus the likes of which they wont be able to explain away in their doctored numbers.

I am sorry - u r dreaming - though t is a sweet dream - No one but us cares!
There are many supporting this- but even so, fact is we are royally screwed Nothing wll change- I said it in that laughable Merchant group - and have said it here- LL does what it does- we either live with it or move on-

It is a friggin smoke dream to think they give a flying crap what we think or want- they dont!! They give us their pronoucements from on high and we will either bow down and take it or leave - Leave means death btw- as there is no viable alternatve to SL. Sadly, when SL becomes the homogenzed garbage they are shovng at us, it will no longer be SL- so move to Blue Mars now- might as well, same stupid pointless crap with better grafix - can u say IMVU?