Advice on Sales!!
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Rhianna Larkham
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08-07-2008 11:31
Rhaorth - We have spoken before about the shops and i have looked around them before aswell. We have even spoke inworld, i just decided afterwards while yes they are a good idea they were not what i was really looking for. I thought you might have remembered me eventually, i'm sorry for the confusion but thank you again for the offer.
Yes those were diamonds coming from the rose, it was the best image i could find with diamonds falling, now it's been cleaned up and redone all thanks too Denise. May i ask when you have sales or free gifts do you post onto Free*Style, i've been a member with them since my start and usually a great group, just speak too a member too find if they can add you too the group and as a poster.
You even have a few Gorean style clothing if i am right, have you tried placing your stuff in a Gor Market or joining one of the groups and sending out notices, some find that's a good way too advertise.
My slurls are also in my signature if anyone else would like too critique my things aswell, i'm still in the process of sorting out a few of my designs and getting them right, hopefully they will be soon.
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Deira Llanfair
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08-07-2008 11:39
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I am happy you like the logo I saw your post and thought it was a good idea and will be visiting some store today
I added you to my blog
(GAH re-enters lurk mode)
something tells me I am back to posting... however, it will only be on these types of threads (the resident answer types, Q&A advice, suggestions, etc)
I plan to leave the drama behind, and if I find myself getting back to that point, I will just walk away again.
(besides I have found that it is hard to help folks via PM, either they ignore it, or they do not have them turned on)
and I like to help when I can Rha! Welcome back 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-07-2008 11:39
From: Rhianna Larkham Rhaorth - We have spoken before about the shops and i have looked around them before aswell. We have even spoke inworld, i just decided afterwards while yes they are a good idea they were not what i was really looking for. I thought you might have remembered me eventually, i'm sorry for the confusion but thank you again for the offer.
Yes those were diamonds coming from the rose, it was the best image i could find with diamonds falling, now it's been cleaned up and redone all thanks too Denise. May i ask when you have sales or free gifts do you post onto Free*Style, i've been a member with them since my start and usually a great group, just speak too a member too find if they can add you too the group and as a poster.
You even have a few Gorean style clothing if i am right, have you tried placing your stuff in a Gor Market or joining one of the groups and sending out notices, some find that's a good way too advertise.
My slurls are also in my signature if anyone else would like too critique my things aswell, i'm still in the process of sorting out a few of my designs and getting them right, hopefully they will be soon. I thought your name was familiar but did not click until now, I had the box reserved for you (would have been nice if you had told me that you changed your mind. Eventually I just unreserved the box and chalked it up to another person who likes to play others) (sorry if that seems harsh, but look at it from this point of few, you were all gung ho about renting there, but never came back, and never let me know you changed your mind) I even had to turn someone down from using that spot cuz it was reserved for you... anywho...I have the one silks item, but it really is not silks, it is more like body jewelry and I will be redoing the ad as such, so nope, not really any gor stuff, but yes I am the person and I now know who you are. nope do not post on freestyle
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-07-2008 11:40
From: Deira Llanfair Rha! Welcome back  Thanks, not sure how long I will stay though LOL
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Soji Slade
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08-07-2008 11:44
From: Katelicious Xue I agree. I LOVE me some shopping, but I never shop malls (unless I can tp directly into the store I like) because of lag, confusing lay outs, and crazy rez time. Ask anyone who knows me, I have the patience of a virgin on prom night. If I like stuff and they are in a mall, I buy it off of SLX. I don't shop onrez, I don't like it. As a hardcore RL and SL shopper, I get all my leads from searches and SLX. And I don't shop SLX because I do not like it, hate it in fact, but do shop OnRez, so there. hehe
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-07-2008 11:45
From: Michael Bigwig .... Don't count on OnRez to bring you sales. Perhaps in the coming years it may offer more, but right now it's almost not even worth placing items there. SLX is a much more profitable solution. Personally, I would set a store up in both SLX and OnRez...just don't expect anything from OnRez. .... I have actually bought more stuff from OnRez than I have from SLX, so don't totally discount it.
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Rhianna Larkham
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08-07-2008 11:46
That would have been the time when i lost my job, i'm sorry i did not contact you it must have slipped my mind. I had alot going on at that time and my head was not really in the right place.
I was not on about your silks and silks by the way most aint Gorean, i was talking about your panther stuff, taluna. They are gorean and Gor is a huge market, you could try getting something along those lines.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-07-2008 11:47
From: Rhianna Larkham That would have been the time when i lost my job, i'm sorry i did not contact you it must have slipped my mind. I had alot going on at that time and my head was not really in the right place.
I was not on about your silks and silks by the way most aint Gorean, i was talking about your panther stuff, taluna. They are gorean and Gor is a huge market, you could try getting something along those lines. I do not have panther stuff you must be confusing my store with someone else
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Rhianna Larkham
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08-07-2008 11:50
Must be but i'm sure it was your logo is saw when i found the outfit. Must have been seeing things again lol.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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08-07-2008 11:52
From: Rhianna Larkham Must be but i'm sure it was your logo is saw when i found the outfit. Must have been seeing things again lol. must be unless there is another Rha! in the world... *shrug* I do not have any panther outfits or outfits by the name you posted, so not sure
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Cheree Bury
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08-07-2008 12:05
From: LittleMe Jewell I have actually bought more stuff from OnRez than I have from SLX, so don't totally discount it. Well, this got me to thinking about how much I have bought on SLX, so I went and checked. I have bought 490 items there. OMG. I wonder if I will get a prize when I hit 500!?! I have bought very little from OnRez, but that is just personal preference. I'm glad there is more than one venue.
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-07-2008 12:17
Re SLExchange and OnRez - I am having tons of sales from SLExchange...OK- before you guys beat down my door to ask how- let me clarify y saying it is ONLY THE FREEBIE!!!
So- they know I am out there- just not getting past the freebie- need to do something to THAT one advert that will make them click something else- that one I know they are looking at... come on peeps- little brainstorm session here please.
Added a blurb about $100 Linden rebate if they mention they saw me in SLExchange- gives me an excuse to ask them to the store and hopefully it will be an incentive to look at other things.. (fingers crossed)
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Soji Slade
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08-07-2008 12:26
From: Cheree Bury Well, this got me to thinking about how much I have bought on SLX, so I went and checked. I have bought 490 items there. OMG. I wonder if I will get a prize when I hit 500!?!
I have bought very little from OnRez, but that is just personal preference. I'm glad there is more than one venue. I have never bought anything from SLX, and given up on them as a search engine. I have only bought 33 things from OnRez, though I use it a lot to find stuff and then go in world. Heck, one of the reasons I have "as many as" 33 purchases from OnRez is because they do not have an inworld store.
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Nimue Jewell
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08-07-2008 12:28
From: Amaranthim Talon Re SLExchange and OnRez - I am having tons of sales from SLExchange...OK- before you guys beat down my door to ask how- let me clarify y saying it is ONLY THE FREEBIE!!!
So- they know I am out there- just not getting past the freebie- need to do something to THAT one advert that will make them click something else- that one I know they are looking at... come on peeps- little brainstorm session here please.
Added a blurb about $100 Linden rebate if they mention they saw me in SLExchange- gives me an excuse to ask them to the store and hopefully it will be an incentive to look at other things.. (fingers crossed) You could put a link to a similiar item you have listed on Slex right in the product description of the freebie. ("If you like this, see something similiar from my main collection here"  . Also, is there a lm to your store in the box the freebie comes in?
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Michael Bigwig
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08-07-2008 12:34
Rhianna,
Hi.
Your sig looks much better, because of the resolution. However, I still think it needs some tweaking. The diamonds falling out of it have no rhyme or rhythm to them. And the typography is still weak and rushed.
How about you actually encrust the rose itself with really small diamonds? Just the [inner] edge/outline of every pedal...very delicate diamonds.
If you must have them falling out, I would either do a more sweeping version as seen on Denise's version <pg. 6> (her text has better treatment as well), or I would have them realistically placed underneath the rose--laid out on the floor--perhaps with a subtle reflection of both the rose and diamonds (not the text) as if on a glass surface.
Just a few ideas. If you must keep what you have now, I would simply tell you to change the shape and placement of the diamonds--as of now they look unnaturally placed and lumped together...it's not very delicate, which is what you should be going for.
You asked what I did before: I'm a graphic designer, 3D modeler, and texture artist.
IM inworld. We'll talk.
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Cheree Bury
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08-07-2008 12:35
From: Imnotgoing Sideways I wonder if I can butt in a bit and ask for the same critique Rhianna is getting without starting my own thread. My signboard and locations are in my sigline. I'm happy to say I've made my 2nd SLX sale last night, so I'm pleased with that. (^_^)
And I know I'm using banned keywords in my land description, please don't worry about that. (^_^)y I did a Search on Darkly Cute and teleported to it. I ended up underneath a building somewhere. You have to fix that. I did eventually get to your store, but from the outside, I had no idea what you were selling on the inside. In fact, your sign isn't on your store at all, it is off to the side. How about putting a big pair of glasses on the outside of the store? That should get some attention.
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Rhianna Larkham
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08-07-2008 12:41
The idea of placing tiny diamonds around the petals sounds great but i would not have the first idea on how too do that. I think maybe i'll just get someone too do me my logo much easier *sigh* Anyone want too have a go with what Michael suggested IM me IW, with prices and i'll get back too you. Thanks 
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-07-2008 12:42
@ Nimue- Yes, there are LM's in all my boxes- Thanks for the awesome suggestion- adding that right now!!
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-07-2008 12:43
Soji- should I branch out to cute little kitty things? Promise no dishcloths!
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Amaranthim Talon
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08-07-2008 12:49
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Soji Slade
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08-07-2008 12:52
From: Amaranthim Talon Soji- should I branch out to cute little kitty things? Promise no dishcloths! I have a ball I like playing with. It was at the hangout but I accidently grabbed it the other day. I do not wear neko stuff, but something that had a feline hint is neat (the easiest example that comes immediately to mind is hair styled to have "ears" but aren't really ears; in clothing . . .maybe something with slashes in it that would match claws of hand - either own hand accidently catching own clothing, or a playful pat of another kitty, or playful bite). Heck, a t-shirt with a picture of a cat on it reclining with maybe one eye open and paw slightly showing some claws with something like "back off or make me purr, your choice" . . .
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Rhianna Larkham
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08-07-2008 12:53
Amaranthim - Visted your store today, very well laid out for me, easy too move around. Now I'm not sure if this was my PC or SL or the textures in your boxes. Some of them did not seem too load up, how big are they if you don't mind me asking? I also noticed that your textures have quite a few images of your outfits on them, the problem i seem too found was that you have that many they seem too be squashed together and i can't see the designs very good. I'm having too really zoom in on a few. Other than that though your store seems quite good 
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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08-07-2008 12:55
From: Cheree Bury I did a Search on Darkly Cute and teleported to it. I ended up underneath a building somewhere. You have to fix that. Wah... I never did check my landing spot from search! Darn basement build! Everyone around hates the granite ground so we built up on prim ground about 30M up. (>_<  Okies... That'll be the first thing I fix, THANKS!!! (^_^) From: someone I did eventually get to your store, but from the outside, I had no idea what you were selling on the inside. In fact, your sign isn't on your store at all, it is off to the side. Maybe if I put my sign on a cut cylinder over the door? (o.o) From: someone How about putting a big pair of glasses on the outside of the store? That should get some attention. Hmmmm... I'm only limiting myself to glasses for now. I still might do some more gesture packs (Now THERE'S a popular item) and even have a try at some other accessories. (^_^) .... That, and, I'm near the end of my 117 prim limit while still having my nice basement home to hang out in... Killer idea though! (^_^)y
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Nimue Jewell
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08-07-2008 12:58
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Cheree Bury
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08-07-2008 13:06
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Maybe if I put my sign on a cut cylinder over the door? That sounds great. Use the imagination I have seen you use so many times. Anything a little different will help you get noticed. From: Imnotgoing Sideways (o.o)Hmmmm... I'm only limiting myself to glasses for now. I still might do some more gesture packs (Now THERE'S a popular item) and even have a try at some other accessories. (^_^) .... That, and, I'm near the end of my 117 prim limit while still having my nice basement home to hang out in... Killer idea though! (^_^)y The prim limit is gonna hurt. I wouldn't do it if I couldn't put up an actual pair of enlarged glasses.
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