Teen Grid sims visible?

Teen grid and main grid are one grid with software. etc seperation, with the beta a seperate grid and i think that eventually as you say they will become one it will make economic sense and perhaps make the grid on the whole easier to manage.



I think slowly but surely we are being given the tools to deal with each new change and its not going to happen overnight. I agree as well that the teenagers could have a positive effect on the grid as a whole and there are some talented, scripters and builders amongst them. The sensible teenagers that do manage to get to the main grid, by whatever way, wont be found here griefing, as they will want to come here back, when they are 18. I must also add that the teenagers that i have spoken to on the main grid, (the ones that through a glitch ended up on Help island) and whilst waiting for a Linden to help them, have always been better behaved and better mannered than some of the adults i have come across in my time in SL.

Personally i dont think it will be the end of the grid as we know it, if/when it happens as im sure before it all happens, SL will have evolved again and for all its bloody faults, it is a great place to be to meet some great people

The teen grid and main grid have always been one. I have even heard rumors if you plan it right, you can "slingshot" form one to the other. As I recall, the grids share the inventory DB servers, login servers, and many of the other aspects of SL. They even have the same viewers. What is different is where your account can go, and what it will see. If somehow you would get to a teen grid sim, all you would see is a empty sim full of water at 20m. The sim wouldn't send you any information because you would not have the proper access to it. It is funny to talk to the teens that come over to this grid and what they expected verses what it actually is. I also won't worry about them merging the grids. Well, at least until there is better verifications on the grid.

Im thinking long term.

Im against allowing teens on the main grid.

And I know it will happen.

No teens please. Over 18s can be bad enough.

I suspect teens will be allowed into the PG areas of the main grid once the new Identity Verification system is in place. So keeping teens out of your mature area will be your responsibility. I'm not thrillled about this because some will be smart enough to still circumvent any system. On the other hand it will introduce new consumers to the economy.

do you think it will be that soon?

I was figuring thered be a lot more clean up of advertizing / etc - first.

It is difficult to say when LL will do anything. I could be completely way off base too. I suspected this to happen when they killed CC verification and forgot about it when nothing happened, but now that they are cleaning things up I am getting that feeling again.

I don't see why it should be my responsibility to keep avitar teens out of my mature area when I did not invite them into SL Adult in the first place. If they see a naked Neko leopard girl they may get a thrill - but I don't want teenagers ANYWHERE NEAR ME!! I don't have any kids in real life - why should I put up with other people's and be a pixil baby sitter?

And don't tell me I shall broaden my horizons with talking to them when they arrive in their hordes - IF it ever comes to pass (which I doubt)

Why do I get this weird image of a couple middle age parents who went crazy , wild; swinging, partying - During the summer they sent their kids to camp.

Now rushing to clean the house up and be respectable for when they get home.



Like some reverse of the parents go on vacation teen house party scenario.

I think the idea is to absolve LL of any responsibility while still saving the "Your World, Your Imagination" part of SL while adding more receptive consumers for the major corporations to advertise to. Teens have alot of disposible income and will spend more quickly than someone who has RL bills to pay. That is a jackpot for companies.


It does seem that way. LOL

Besides the fact that it makes the clean up of ageplay and gambling, and the places listing changes much easier to understand.

i didn't sign up for a game that allowed people who are underage in so i'm not about to start now if i wanted to worry about keeping teens out of something I would be doing something else. I purposely signed up for SL because it was for age of majority. Im not accepting responsibility for keeping teens out of any mature area because I didn't agree to do so in the first place

anyhow that is how I feel. I"m not policing Second Life because they change the rules of engagement on me I agreed to not do certain things once upon a time but one thing I never ever would agree to would be to keep people from commiting illegal acts on my land especially when I am not there. See I dont live in second life 24/7 so I hope they add a button to allow me to keep teens out of my area because its an unenforcabel rule and I"m not going to baby sit my land because of it.

I think you already have that option minus the identity verification. The "restrict access to unverified accounts" button (or however it is worded).

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People need to start thinking of their land and Estates as websites with LL providing the hosting. This, I believe, is the direction SL is headed. Website operators are responsible for the content on their websites and who has access to such content.

unverifieds in Sl doesn't restrict access to only teens it restricts to adutsl who I dont want to restrict. If they provide a selection for only teens its fine but a large portion of the population living on estate lands is in fact unverified especially if they are in europe. The reason being that not everyone has a credit card.

Using unverifieds in its present sense is not the proper way as adults can be unverified as well.

And yes I consider sims/parcels to be 3d web hosting. However at present I dont ahve a method that allows me to put in a method of screening so i can't treat it as a website. I can not put in a tailored agreement saying "yes i am age of majority" and have people click on it I can't do any of that. Until I can I can't monitor my land as I would a website.

The mechanisms simply are not present to properly agecheck people entering a parcel. The only way I could do thiswould be to verify each individual by having them click on something saying they are over the age of majority. I cannot do that right now when I can I can police my parcel when I am nto there.

Until such an age verification type system is added I cannot

Yes I said you have an option already minus the upcoming identity verification. You are correct the current version as is will not work to control underage access.

Then again this may not be in their plans at all which then this wouldn't matter much.

Is there a common thread to the expectations? Now I'm curious.

Believe it or not, but we don't live in caves here in Europe.

Every adult who would want to make a simple effort can verify.

What were they expecting? And what is it that makes the teen grid 'boring' ? I would have expected the teen grid to have more creativity - they can build just the same, what makes adult builds better?

sigh lol I didn't think you did seeing as my parents are european. However there aer credit cards that are not considered "international' that believe it or not dont verify properly all over the world

I hold one in fact that is not usable in the united states but is useable in canada its a master card and I am considered a "Foreigner" in the US if i want to use a credit card in the US I have to use my visa which in fact is international. Now believe it or not not everyone holds an international card and that means they can't verify on american servers if their card is not recognized.

Yes it happens

the want "teh PrOn" I guess in which case they cant have it.. and they want to gamble as well in which case they can't have it.. lol this is the only things I can think of off the top of my head that would not be present on the teen grid. Other then that the only thing on the teen grid that might make it "borring" is that they likey have a much lower population then the main adult grid.

I dont mind them having access to all PG sims but since we are not in control of the verification processes Linden labs has to make it so they can only access those as mature is for people who are over age of majority (where I am that's 16 in other countries the age is higher)

Lastly if a credit card is used as a means of verification its possible in my country for a 13 year old to hold one so that wont work either in essence well people are on their honour when signing up for stuff. Mastercard presently issues a card that anyone over the age of 13 can hold in Canada I dont however know if its an international card, but I believe it is as I never bothered to look at it as I am not 13 and dont need one hehe.

From the few I have met, it seems that they get this idea that there are all these big, beautiful builds, tons of people, and a much better grid. Surprisingly enough, none of them that I have met really even care about the porn, sex, or gambling. I guess they can get enough of that from the net anyway. They all seem to want to build, script, and make friends.

I noticed that sim is nearly identical to another sim of the same name minus the TG at the end. I think I heard that teens can own estates on the teen grid. So maybe the owner of that sim became old enough and moved their sim to the main grid. *shrugs*

Could it be part of this organization?

Looks like it!