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Should LL do something about this before official action?

Jenshae Werefox
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01-12-2010 03:16
I am not longer just annoyed and wanting to know why Linden Labs is showing preference. I am also concerned of the possible repercussions of official action if the authorities do act on this.

They COULD call for a COMPLETE audit. With all the transactions that SL does, it may never re-open.


From: Jenshae Werefox
I see it as gambling, you put L$ in, get random numbers; a game of chance with a bet and win or lose it. How come it is permitted?

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From: Anya Ristow
I don't know about that. A whole class of activity has been banned except that there's one glaring exception. Kinda begs for an explanation. Without word it looks like a wink-wink knod-knod arrangement, and some people find that offensive.
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From: Jenshae Werefox
Zyngo has a random number generator in it that risks L$ on the outcome.

Under the official rules, that makes it illegal.

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Wagering_Games_FAQ

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Abigail Merlin
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01-12-2010 03:27
I vote pie.. what? no pie? wel then the poll is not valid. :P
Ann Otoole
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01-12-2010 05:14
If you think someone is violating the law then turn them in to the proper law enforcement authorities and let the law go frog march some criminals to jail. Let the threat of convict justice work it's magic.
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01-12-2010 05:25
mind your own business and stop being a crusader.
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Briana Dawson
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01-12-2010 05:28
From: Jenshae Werefox
I am also concerned of the possible repercussions of official action if the authorities do act on this.

They COULD call for a COMPLETE audit. With all the transactions that SL does, it may never re-open.


Uh.. Who is "they".

How will "they" shut down SL so it never "re-opens".

can we say extreme paranoia?
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01-12-2010 08:26
They wouldn't need to shut down SL anyway - all that would need to happen is to stop any means of converting L$ to real-world currencies for the duration of the audit.
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01-12-2010 10:16
i say either they shut it down, or open gambling back up and stop being so blind to what they don't wanna deal with. If sex is the last sin left in SL, lord its going to be raining salt pillars soon..lol
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01-12-2010 11:02
From: Briana Dawson
mind your own business and stop being a crusader.

What Bri said.
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01-12-2010 11:37
it's not illegal so why would authorities get involved? it may be against the TOS but thats about it..
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01-12-2010 11:43
From: Conifer Dada
They wouldn't need to shut down SL anyway - all that would need to happen is to stop any means of converting L$ to real-world currencies for the duration of the audit.


Which might not mean closing SL, but sure as heck would hurt it a lot. I mean, how many businesses (myself included) cash out our L$ to help pay tier? Not to mention, it'd screw with the Lindex, because for non-tier, we'd just find another exchange to sell off at.
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01-12-2010 11:46
From: Ceka Cianci
it's not illegal so why would authorities get involved? it may be against the TOS but thats about it..
It's only IN the ToS because they don't want authorities to get involved.
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01-12-2010 11:55
From: Argent Stonecutter
It's only IN the ToS because they don't want authorities to get involved.

it thier way of keeping the blame off of LL..sorry if that's what you meant hehehehe
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01-12-2010 12:06
From: Briana Dawson
mind your own business and stop being a crusader.

Briana why so rude?

Are these Zynga machines paing out Lindens or giving tokens for prizes that can be used to redeeem products?
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01-12-2010 12:20
Zyngo pays out L$ and is clearly a gambling machine.
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01-12-2010 12:28
Bring back gambling! :)
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01-12-2010 12:29
Bring back gambling! :)

(The whole of SL seems a bit of a gamble anyways!)


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01-12-2010 12:38
From: Rene Erlanger
Bring back gambling! :)

(The whole of SL seems a bit of a gamble anyways!)


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01-12-2010 12:38
I really don't give a Frack about this particular issue, but I've always maintained that SL's demise will come not from a competitor but from LL's own incompetence, laziness and stupidity. It will be very entertaining to see it when it does finally happen. Pull up a chair, I've got plenty of popcorn.
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01-12-2010 13:24
From: Brenda Connolly
I really don't give a Frack about this particular issue, but I've always maintained that SL's demise will come not from a competitor but from LL's own incompetence, laziness and stupidity. .


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01-12-2010 13:26
From: Chris Norse
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01-12-2010 15:06
What's the big deal with gambling anyway? I wouldn't trust some homespun script with my Lindens, but if people want to throw their money away that should be up to them.
This falls into the MYOB category, and not just this thread.
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01-12-2010 15:10
From: Brann Georgia
What's the big deal with gambling anyway? I wouldn't trust some homespun script with my Lindens, but if people want to throw their money away that should be up to them.
This falls into the MYOB category, and not just this thread.


See, this is a case of people trying to protect other people from themselves.
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01-12-2010 15:23
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What's the big deal with gambling anyway?
The legal and economic environment in the US means that if LL is providing an internet gambling service they can be in big trouble. Many people believe that Zyngo is likely to be interpreted that way if the appropriate agencies cared to investigate, and so shouldn't be treated any differently from any other gambling in SL.
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01-12-2010 15:25
From: Raudf Fox
See, this is a case of people trying to protect other people from themselves.

Pffft. So maybe we should outlaw alcohol, smoking, giving coca cola to children, MacDonalds, high heels, silicone injections, Fox news and reality television, too.
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01-12-2010 15:33
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Pffft. So maybe we should outlaw alcohol, smoking, giving coca cola to children, MacDonalds, high heels, silicone injections, Fox news and reality television, too.


You mean, they aren't trying to do that even as we type? *sighs* It's silly. You can't protect people from themselves, no matter how many laws you pass.
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