Should LL do something about this before official action?

Our Government doesn't want us throwing our money away on gambling. That's what they are for.

zyngo is like grandma playing bingo in the church basement, get over it - there are many other more serious issues in need of crusaders, if you really must.

shhhhh your mouth, child! they might hear you~~

It seems like once a week an ignorant person that doesn't know what they are talking about will make this exact same thread. "omggz isnt dis gambling and dats ilegal?"

LL has clearly stated that they allow skill-based games that cost money and pay out money based on a score or other achievement in the skill game. Zyngo and games like it are considered skill-based because you have to cover the matching numbers and choose where to play the jokers which can have a big effect on your score.

If you don't like the games, then don't put your money into them. It's really annoying to read these threads from people that think they can police SL and decide what's best for it. Personally, I would love to see fashion/clothing stores banned from second life. I hate how the fashion industry has taken over SL and a lot of people fail to see anything beyond it, but I haven't made a thread about it yet... although now this makes me want to.

That's because it IS gambling and LL is playing with fire.

Yay, another gambling thread.

Should I bring up age play again, as well?

I like how the third option is weighted more heavily than the second one. Who would put that in without a reason?

Reason I put it in, is that I see it as a guilty conscience. People KNOW full well that it is gambling and don't want it brought to anyone's attention. As for me, I have stated this in the past:

I don't gamble.
I have no vendetta against Zingo.
I don't care about the fools blowing L$ on those machines.

What I do want, is either for the Loose Lunatics to give everyone an equal opportunity to have their game ruled as being a "skill" game and for their definitions of wagering to be more in depth and clear OR to ban those machines because they ARE gambling by Linden Labs very own rules and definitions. See OP.

It doesn't matter how many threads you want to start on these forums, all the forum threads change neither the legality of Linden Lab's policy, nor will it change Linden Lab's policy. If you are absolutely convinced Linden Lab is breaking the law, report them to all the law enforcement authorities you want.

Anwering for myself....but I marked the third, without fooling with the others, because that was the bottom line. Period.

No guilty conscience at all. I proudly marked that you should mind your own business. I say that about 99% of all issues RL or SL where someone says "There oughta be a law."

I would but:
1) I am in the wrong country, contacting would be a fair bit of effort, possibly.
2) I am hoping for a more agreeable solution to this.
3) I don't want to see the impacts of a Federal audit on all of us.

So, if you have any ideas on how to get the Loose Lunatics attention ... oh, office hours! Just occurred to me. What times and who is next? Who is most likely to be able to prove to me where this "skill" is?

I would like a darn good and VERY thorough explanation why Zingo gets the nod and other games do not.

Edit: I wouldn't have put the third option in if I thought that peer pressure could steer me away from this or shut me up. Best plan, work with me to get some equality here.

Why don't you try to get your own government to restore the Rights of an Englishman, you know the ones you have lost over the past 100 years?

so #1 is out of the question.

on #2 - do you expect that to happen in forum?

on #3 - do you lose sleep over this?

If I can't pay for my tier with earnings in L$ because the government or banks have decided that LL is running a gambling operation, I will keep your good advice in mind.

As for contacting the law enforcement authorities to make this happen sooner... that does not seem productive.

what's wrong with age play?
As soon as my avi's 4th rezday comes around i'll get me some serious "old fart" stuff to match
white, close-cropped hair, wrinkly skin, and i DO want a walking cane with AO that i can also use to beat da shitz outta dem punkz!

I just kind of look at it like this.....LL has a much larger business than I do.....and makes a much larger profit than I do....in fact, even comparing the two, would be laughable. So they can call the shots. If those numbers ever come close to being comparable (and they won't)....then I might feel inclined to start calling the shots.

Oh god, appeal to authority.

I've been listened to by much bigger companies than Linden Labs... sometimes unsolicited, sometimes they've asked me. No matter how big the company, it can make mistakes. No matter how big the company, it can listen and learn. Saying nothing, or accepting bad decisions without comment, or shutting up when you don't get an immediate response, will make for a quieter and more peaceful life... but staying on program and keeping the pressure up is often useful and productive.

This is not a matter of "calling the shots". This isn't baseball or pool. This is real life.

Why?
You dont like the rules get the hell out and let the rest of us who do know how to mind our own business lead our lives- geesh, it's like the old woman peeking thru her curtains to decide if her neighbor's lawn needs mowing - you say you dont gamble- good- walk on - nothing to see there - who cares what people waste their Linden's on? The day LL taxes me to finance someone's gambling I'll worry about it - mean time, games bore me, so i don't play. See how well I deal with that?

This is important for everyone in the SL gaming Industry. if there is a 'amgic scripting' that simulates gambling but stays within the rules of 'no gambling' - this information should be made available so the game designers can use this to regenreate the SL Gaming industry.

If it is just cheating and LL is giving only Zingo Gambling a pass - I guess LL would take the stance they are taking now- no comment.

Hey, we're not allowed to agree about anything. It's in my contract.

... is it possible? Someone else drawing a similar conclusion? 8O

Got the office hours in my Google calendar. I am sure the Lindens are going to enjoy themselves next week.

Stoked to put them on the grill tomorrow. Hope they have some really good answers.

LL has been approached about this before. They will not act.

I'm sure they will have a good laugh about this hahaha