would you be willing to join the land revolution?

we are a group dedicated to buying a land so everyone in our group can use it we are NOT like trilegy mainly because we wont return your junk after 15 days once it stays it stays however we do have one rule it can only be for residential purposes this is not a sandbox so no giant pies or crazy junk like that we only ask for a 1000l entry fee because it goes towards the land once 23 people join we will have 23,000ls and we can buy a huge peice of land 100 a wk/tieris all you pay per week

1500 prims for 100 a week your space is as big as your hose is youre allowed to use your own house

contactakura gearz for more info or questions

and yes i did find a full sim for only 23,000

we need support and more sponsors and members and only 19 more members before we reach our goal the thing that makes this different than other projects is the motive mainly because we need to reject the pathology that everytime someone does something nice its not real and the way to break that pathology is to be kind and i couldnt help but notice the trilegy system is flawed so im doing something about it people in sl have the right to have a place to live for a cheap price with a good amount of prims the other purpose is to take the fiirst step in building an sl community where we start helping each other out instead of rejecting a group of people to maintain our superiority

CONTACTakura gearz for more details or questions or to give any support

Ok I've been reading your posts about this for the past few days.

People have managed to do this kind of thing before, but I'm concerned about your math.

1. 23 x 100 = 23,000 thats your buy in covered.

2. I'm going to guess that this is a rented private estate sim, so your weekly tier is probably 23K, 23 x 100 = $2300, who is paying the rest of the tier ($20,700)?

3. 23 x 1500 prims = 34,500 prims, a full sim can only handle 15,000. Explain please?

4. I have a house that takes 1/4 of sim, so for $1,000 and $100 a week I'll take 1/4 sim with 1500 prims, thanks! (I do have a house that size, but no I don't want the land, I'm using it as an example of whats wrong)

Good Luck, but I seriously doubt your going to make it work as is, oh and $23,000 a week for a full sim isn't an exceptional price.

well to the second question im the one paying the majority of tier and we have a few sponsors that are willing to pay some too
to the 3rd question im willing to buy a second sim

and basically i meant 1000ls and 100ls and i think that people are so close minded to the idea just because theyre focusing on the presented plan they forget im open to suggestions and theyre over looking that have thought this through and i have it covered and chances are it can work 23,000 actually is a good price mainly because ive done a lot of research on how much most full sims cost the average price to buy it is much more than what im saying to you so i think the fact that i managed to find something that cheap is a miracle compared to the other places ive been pointed to

as for the fourth comment you said your house takes up a fourth of a sim right im buying a whole sim so whats yuor point ive spoken to people that have successfuly done what im doing

I know very well what sims cost and where to buy/rent them, 23K is an average price, its nothing special.

As to my 1/4 sim comment, I'm showing you an example of what someone _could_ do under your scheme, use far more resources than anyone else on the sim, making it completely unfair to others, and if you think that my 1/4 sim house is ok under your plan, then when you have 22 other people drop me a note, I'll throw in 1k and take 1/4 of the sim.

Buy a second sim? So your going to fund this second sim as well?

So in the last 4 months have you managed to pay for your wedding yet? and now you want to cover tier costs on a full sim.

Now onto your idea

I agree with Mitzy on this, you have not got your maths right.

You have found a full sim for L$23,000 which is not unrealistic, however, your group will not own the sim it will be rented from a private estate owner. Your rent/weekly-monthly tiers will be payable to that estate owner.

That estate owner needs a minimum of L$55,000 per month to cover that sims cost. How are you calculating that?

You say 1500 prims for L$100 per week and you want 23 people.

23x1500 = 34,500 prims. A full sim can only support 15000 prims. As Mitzy mentioned can you explain this. The best 23 people would get is 2849sqm of land and 652 prims.

Honestly, you say you have researched this but your idea has some pretty serious flaws in it.

Actually its $79,080 on a full sim at non grandfathered pricing ($295 a month), including the 3.5% commission LL takes on L$->US$ transactions, and thats not including any margin. $55K would be a grandfathered Private Estate Full Sim or Mainland with a tiny margin (and the 3.5% fee).

Maybe they're planning to do this on a homestead!

23 people to share 3750 prims, perhaps thats why the OP was putting so much emphasis on a huge piece of land cause thats about all anyone is going to get with a Homestead.

that would still be 368 L$ per person per week (36315 L$ total per month), heck I think even an openspace might cost more *starts to calculate* 75 us$*269 = 20175 L$ per month 20175/30*7 = 4707.5 L$ per week total 4707.5/23 is 204.7 L$ per person per week.. nope still short.

Lol

This translates in:

We have 4 persons each owning 1000 lindens... we need 19 more to cover the first week of tier on a rented full sim

Thanks I rather stay where I am.

Group of random people with no common interests or theme. Not a great deal of security ...

*Waits for the drama fruit to ripen. *

To the OP: I tried to read your post and gave up about three lines in. For the love of god, use a little punctuation.

I reiterate things I have previously said about people who cannot do basic math not running a business.

I think this idea is very poorly thought out, as others have pointed out. If this was my idea, I'd go back to the drawing board with the issues that have been raised and figure out a better plan. As it stands, you'll only get those that have NEVER been in a Linden owned sandbox before to "buy in."

By the way, I recommend you visit a Linden owned sandbox, because it's your competition and it's free.

And yeah.. you might want to find someone to write the "ad" for you. As it stands, it's one really hard to read wall of words. Periods.. they save lives and braincells.

I'm really going to make out good on this deal if i get involved.

And you can put that hose right in your space, pal.

As well as unwanted sexual encounters.

i think you guys are being quick to assume the worst and not even giving the idea a fair chance even though other people are doing exactly what I'm doing as well you're assuming its a "scheme" and you assume it wont work but the truth is i do have a back up plan for all you know i could be planning to buy a second Sim for the other people not only that but you guys are saying a full Sim costs 295$ a month Ive rented land before and haven't paid any rl money and this just confirms the gross pathology i was referring to in my first post that whenever i present this idea as a start people always want to assume it wont work only because i havent presented the second part they think critiquing my idea help but in reality it hurts because youre blinding yourselves with the certainty that it wont work because youve never heard of it or seen it be done or just because it doesnt match up to your standards but this project is about providing people with a place to stay

my back up plan is to buy a second sim and/or get sponsors to help out because the fact is i do know other people that do wanna support this not only that but youre assuming that i havent told people that they cant take up a fourth of a sim

If you want to be taken seriously then it's usually a good idea to anticipate the criticisms and provide the answers up front. Presenting a fairy tale that sounds too good to be true and then respond to criticism by saying you have undisclosed methods of handling the issues raised, and still keeping those methods undisclosed, does not instill confidence. It makes you look like you're trying to put something over on someone.

not necessarily im not trying to push anything on anyone but im saying dont be so quick to assume the worst just because youve never seen this be done before and i do have a back up plan ive mentioned what it is the plan is to buy another sim for the remainder of the people and ive explained the rules and repricusions of having a house that takes up a fourth of a sim we will have supporters and donators to help out

I don't see answers to the issues in this thread.
The purchase price seems to be covered.
The tier is obviously not covered. "Sponsors and donations" isn't an answer unless you can say that you have people who have made commitments ALREADY to cover the difference between what you need to pay tier and what you are asking for in rental fees.
Buying a second sim to get enough prims to cover the promised 1500 per renter doubles the cost. Where is that money coming from?
1000L is not a lot to some of us - but the people who might be interested in a low cost home that they can't use for a sandbox or a business are not likely to be the same ones that can afford to lose 1000L if the whole thing vanishes the day after they pay. What reason do these people have to trust you? Your name is not well known. The only other time I've seen your name was a post you made saying you didn't have much money - not a strong reason to suspect you of being a wealthy philanthropist.
Would be nice to believe you want to help people out and do good deeds - but when there is money being asked for, there needs to be some semblance of assurance that it isn't going to just vanish. And no, your word is not good enough, since I do not know you or your reputation.
Please outline a plan for dealing with these issues so we can evaluate your idea fairly.

Another question. Are you providing a RL-enforceable contract to the people who do get involved in this?

Where is a bankable guarantee that those who pony up money aren't going to see it fly away like the money that was deposited in Ginko Financial did?

Dealing with an established estate like Caledon or Skybeam would be a far wiser move than the scanty information provided here.

... and how would it work? All those strangers with no common goal ...

well ive said before that im paying the difference in the tier not only that but you keep saying there arent enough prims for people but the truth of it is im willing to buy a secoond sim we do have some sponsors and donators committed to supporting this project

and youre not seeing those as answers because you dont wanna see my plan work youre choosing what you want to hear and youre right i dont have a lot but im willing to give the last bit to provide land for people and my name isnt well known im not some super star and imn ot popular im an ordinary person with a good intention for you to judge me on sitte just because you see a few flaws in my plan is close minded and this is the mindset im referring to that im trying to break its acts of kindness like these that break that pathology i want to change peoples mindset and for the person that said theres no common goal in this its because no one has thought of a goal like this but im willing to be the start the fact that ive already started this project and ive worked as hard as i can and put time and effort symbalizes my commitment and my intentions but you dont know what ive done to stat this project and its because youre unaware that you assume ive done nothing

theres a saying if you think you can you can if you think you cant youre right and i honestly believe i can do this and im not going to give up just because a few people are unsupportive and close minded im willing to do anything it takes for this to work