Vista?

Any clue on the release of a Vista capable viewer?

Trying to plan out when to install it using the programs availabilty in the not so distant future.... thx

Last known official word on the subject....

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It does sort of work, it just runs very slow.

It matters how well your video drivers in Vista work.

For me it seems to run pretty well, except a few small things. As far as speed, things seem to be about the same as XP for me. Here is a supplemental picture of a high traffic area:

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Expect secondlife to run slower under Vista then it would XP.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

SL justcrashedwithmy Vista machine. AMD Athlon 64 4200+ dual core, 1 gig memory, ATI radion 1600xt 25mb

th client will start to load the log on screen and crah every time. Bata did the exact same thng. I ma using ATI's newest video drivers designed fro Vista.

There might be another reason too - a friend who develops software for Windows told me that he'd tested it and it seemed to be always drawing the entire user interface, even the bits you can't see. (Maybe, to allow for the possibility of a glass window?) So even when you're running full-screen SL, all of your desktop is still being drawn. I know this isn't the most reliable source but it does seem plausible.

Microsoft's history of new OS versions being reliable is abysmal. I would highly recommend switching back to XP for at least 6 months! There are very few new features in Vista that casual PC users will ever use, and it's much more of a memory and CPU hog.

Yumi, I believe that's part of the new "3-D desktop" "features."

Regards,

-Flip

That would be the encrypted (done on the CPU) driver to driver communications. The word insane comes to mind. When the R2 beta expires on the other computer I will be installing XP on it.



Sounds very plausible. I'd believe it. I've done a bit of software development and that sound like how it would have to be done.

I have an ATI 1900XT running with Vista with ATI's latest Vista drivers and all SL would do is crash and not load at all.

Then I was reading where Lindens were asking ATI and Nvidia to make the Open GL run SL in Vista, so I pulled out my ATI card and put in an Nvidia 7900GT and loaded the latest Nvidia Vista drivers.

I then was able to sign on SL with no problems and everything is running normal.

You mean Vista itself right?

So, I have Vista on my brand new Dell, and while SL starts up just fine, after some time my computer will reboot itself. This is even when run in compatibility mode to XP. Any ideas on fixes, or do I just have to deal until everything catches up to Vista?

~Dream

Seems to be only a video card driver issue. This is why I USED to use ATI cards and don't anymore. I have a nVidia (7300 GT) and all I had to do was upgrade the driver when I switched to vista....all is working great. No problems.

ATI users save yourself problems and switch to nVidia.

Dream, that sounds like a serious issue. Vista has a sort of a barrier to the hardware, which is supposed to prevent crashes even if something with the drivers screws up, and at most cause the software to shut down and the driver to simply restart (new Vista feature). What you describe might actually be faulty hardware (bad ram or damaged video card). I would check with Dell about that.

Strange this Vista is just a warmed over XP why even bother, since the coders are better off dealing with bugs etc...........Let the coders budget their time and focus on the presetn issues.

I know to you this may not be a big deal, but suprisingly, there are others in the world, and some of us have actual businesses to run, not to mention operating sims besides. Alot of users are switching to Vista, it is important for the coders to work on fixing SL to work with it, and since Vista is currently out, it is a present issue. Obviously Vista isn't just a warmed over XP, or SL would work with it.

Anyway, I have an nVidia 7900GS, so the drivers should be fine. I've noticed I'm having restarts when playing EQ2 as well, so its got to be a game thing, which makes me worry for said nVidia. I called Dell, and unsuprisingly, they had no idea how to fix it, beyond saying that most software isn't compliant with Vista yet. I REALLY don't want to send my compy back, someone please tell me its not the card, hehe.

~Dream

Right now nvidia has the best drivers for vista but.. they are far from perfect. I've beeen running SL pretty well actually on my 8800 which still only has "beta" drivers.

The drivers should quickly improve now that the situation is "urgent" and more and more people start complaining to the video card companies about support.

Another month or two and things will improve greatly.

Uh, the current client already runs fine under Vista. In fact, it runs faster than it did under XP (for me, anyway).

I've been using Vista since beta 2 and SL has never crashed since switching from XP. SL used to go south on me all the time before switching to Vista.

Well then again if you used XP for over 5 years, and been reading reviewes etc. You understand..........You tell me what the main differance for vista and xp? the protection layers? Frankly unless one is buying or buying a new system your better off stanying with xp pro. And Yes Vista is just warmed of xp. I been looking at high enf builds systems that are BTO here. And for that i see 8800 series cards are not even listed because of the problems releated to drivers with vista at this point of time. Instead they are pushing 7950 cards instead. The system i planning on building ina a few months wil be vista, but this system, until I feel geeky and wanting to waste money this system will stay xp pro........... How one can say its not a just warmed over XP really doesnt really understand MS is just selling us another piece of SW that really is not needed. ...........If you want to spend your money or that of your companies then fine, but facts are unless your current system is in the need of upgrade. Your better off upgrading hardware instead of sw ar this stage. At the end its your monies.if you want to do the upgrade fine, but really......why do it if current OS is as good one on one as vista is. Just some friendly person remarks....... Have a great day Usagi

I was using XP, pretty much since it came out, and I'd love to have it again, unfortunately, since my old computer died, I pretty much had no choice but to go to Vista. So, no, I wasn't trying to be ahead of the curve or waste my "monies" on a new OS. All I wanted was a new computer. And now, all I want is for SL to run without restarting 2010101010 times. So if someone has some actual help or answers, that'd be great.

If you do a search here you find alot of data about vista nd the sl client(s).
Many are using it to some degree.

Hold on to XP until the very last end! Vista just means a butt load of extra unnecessary processes that suck up ram and force you to buy extra stuff to keep ahead. Least with the XP I have I can get my processes down to 15. All these new versions that come out have 20, 30, 40 different processes, sometimes even redundant ones (excluding svchost.exe). You look at them all (ctrl+alt+delete) and you'll find yourself saying "WTF mate". I imagine this vista crap has over 60. That's why it's slow people. Good luck trying to figure which ones to turn off! lol.

What makes me shake my head is, other then the way photos are shown and the protection layers for the high end vista. How can people really upgrade to a OS that is only more pretty then new function. Upgrading doesnt only mean you getting a better product. Then Again look at all those people stealing OS systems with key generators, cracks etc.........The have nothing to lose by using stolen Vista OS.

Vista does seem to be running ok for me. However, some of the controls "hesitate" and are quite jumpy so I just switch back to my XP box when I build something.

Some of that pretty could be the slowdown, you might try disabling the fancy aeroglass desktop under Vista and see if it helps.

If I remember this right, the desktop and all rendering are done through DirectX under that desktop, and disabling it disables the need to emulate OpenGL through DirectX and lets you run more like XP.

I'll know soon enough as I'll have to try it on openGL games in the near future.