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How do I get out of the BloodLines database?

Brenda Connolly
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01-28-2010 04:40
From: Mickey Vandeverre


I have watched people sit at their desk in their cushy office doing this with great delight, grinning and rubbing their hands together evily, snickering to themselves, every time they found some dirt. And if you're in the middle of a divorce, and there is custody of the kids at stake.....count on it.


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01-28-2010 05:17
As far as I am concerend all vampires are asshats. My muted object box is cluttered up with dozens of them. Every so often I drool over the list but never let them out, coz I wants a database, don't you know :)
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01-28-2010 07:19
From: Bear Jharls
The Bloodlines Fangs version 3.3 informs the recipient of a bite request that if they agree to be bitten their name will be stored in the Bloodlines database. This on the blue menu dialog. (not sure if this is also true of earlier versions)


Garlic not required.

There is also a Mute button on the bite request dialog that will defang the Bloodlines Fangs worn by the Bloodlines player without muting the avatar allowing the intended victim to continue conversing with that player.

Muting by Name the Bloodlines Fangs makes us impervious to all Bloodlines fangs with the same name regardless of owner, while also allowing us to converse with the fangers should we care to do this.


Excellent info, thanks....
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Danl22 Lisle
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02-02-2010 15:57
From: Danl22 Lisle
OK, I sent a notecard to Lyle Maeterlinck who is listed as maker of the HUD and to Noire Luminos who is listed as a contact in his profile.
Please pass these names around to unhappy vampire victims. In fact I would suggest publishing their names widely as possible as they aren't mentioned and there are no contact links to them on the BL website or the main BL sim or in any NC given with BL products. I wonder why.............................


Well I got a reply. Lyle made me an involuntary wearer of the garlic necklace and I can't take it off. So now I feel like I have been raped twice. This is a for profit pyramid scheme. My AV has been damaged and no one will will repair it. They will tell you it doesn't matter, but it does. Your Bloodlines profile is read by many and I DON'T want to participate. I can't decide which takes up a smaller space, his balls or his brain. His ethics and morals are so small as to be invisible. If Bloodlines was a game, there would be an opposing side. Where is my wooden stake or silver cross? Where is my mirror to tell me who is a vampire. OK, so they've gotten more sophisticated than spamming requests, but they still ruin the lives of many
Talarus Luan
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02-02-2010 16:11
From: Danl22 Lisle
Well I got a reply. Lyle made me an involuntary wearer of the garlic necklace and I can't take it off. So now I feel like I have been raped twice. This is a for profit pyramid scheme.


Probably.

From: someone
My AV has been damaged and no one will will repair it.


Your AV hasn't been touched. Bloodlines has nothing to do with your avatar info stored with LL for SL.

From: someone
They will tell you it doesn't matter, but it does.


No, it doesn't. It only *seems* to matter because you want it to matter.

From: someone
Your Bloodlines profile is read by many and I DON'T want to participate.


I don't read Bloodlines profiles. The VAST MAJORITY of SL Residents don't even know Bloodlines exists, nor care.

If you don't want to participate, then don't. Ignore it. Simple enough.

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I can't decide which takes up a smaller space, his balls or his brain. His ethics and morals are so small as to be invisible. If Bloodlines was a game, there would be an opposing side. Where is my wooden stake or silver cross? Where is my mirror to tell me who is a vampire.


Make your own game, if you want. Might even drive them out of business. Who knows? The virtual sky is the limit.

From: someone
OK, so they've gotten more sophisticated than spamming requests, but they still ruin the lives of many


They can only ruin the lives of those who choose to let them ruin their lives. They don't ruin my life, nor the lives of 95% of the rest of the residents on the grid.
Beach Adored
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02-03-2010 14:11
From: Danl22 Lisle
Well I got a reply. Lyle made me an involuntary wearer of the garlic necklace and I can't take it off. So now I feel like I have been raped twice. This is a for profit pyramid scheme. My AV has been damaged and no one will will repair it. They will tell you it doesn't matter, but it does. Your Bloodlines profile is read by many and I DON'T want to participate. I can't decide which takes up a smaller space, his balls or his brain. His ethics and morals are so small as to be invisible. If Bloodlines was a game, there would be an opposing side. Where is my wooden stake or silver cross? Where is my mirror to tell me who is a vampire. OK, so they've gotten more sophisticated than spamming requests, but they still ruin the lives of many

Wow. I checked www.slbloodlines.com and your name is nowhere in the database. So not sure where you believe it's being stored. Maybe you can clue me in?
Danl22 Lisle
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02-03-2010 18:20
From: Beach Adored
Wow. I checked www.slbloodlines.com and your name is nowhere in the database. So not sure where you believe it's being stored. Maybe you can clue me in?


I'm hidden on the websites but not out of the database. If you scan my AV it will tell you that I'm suspended or that I've worn the garlic necklace or whatever Lyle wants it to read. He could take it out but he'd rather cause me pain with my vamp friends. It's my alt that is stuck with the garlic necklace. Now that I've been writing in forums he's suspended me.
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02-04-2010 08:44
From: Danl22 Lisle
I'm hidden on the websites but not out of the database. If you scan my AV it will tell you that I'm suspended or that I've worn the garlic necklace or whatever Lyle wants it to read. He could take it out but he'd rather cause me pain with my vamp friends. It's my alt that is stuck with the garlic necklace. Now that I've been writing in forums he's suspended me.

Hmmm, I find that interesting. I had a friend in SL who was a blood doll in a clan. Her liege became destroyed and her soul went to the abyss. I helped her drink a potion to remove her soul from the abyss, unliege from the person she was lieged to, then gave her a garlic necklace to wear and activate. Now, mind you, she was an ACTIVE bloodlines player for several months by choice. She is no longer in the bloodlines database. Yes, if you scan her, it says she has worn the garlic necklace. But she is not in the bloodlines database anymore.

You know, I find it interesting how people in general just have to have drama and negativity in their lives. The people who have come out to complain about RP games - first of all, almost exclusively focus only on bloodlines when there are other games that are even more extreme in their actions, like hunger - and are offered all kinds of possible solutions to their issues. The ones who really are just looking for a solution are quick to say thanks and take the advice. But the ones who just have to bitch about something, who are negative people in general, just keep on searching for the negative.

Danl22, you have a couple of options here -- don't wear the necklace and when people scan you to see if you are available or uninterested they will hit you up and you'll repeatedly have to tell them you aren't interested, or wear the necklace and let them leave you completely alone.

See, this is how I see it. You meet someone interesting. You scan their profile. They have some interesting groups but something specific that interests you isn't there one way or another. They haven't said anything positive but they also have said anything negative. So, do you ask if it's an interest or do you never bring it up? For me, if I like the person and I spend a lot of my time doing the activity, then I'm going to ask if it's something that interests them - it could be the vamp thing, or it could be BDSM, or it could be baking or camping or shopping. Whatever it is that I spend most of my SL time doing. If, however, they have something I can see that says, I am NOT interested in XYZ, then I won't ever bring it up to them.

So what is it you people really want? A solution or to bitch? Cause frankly, you're just full of drama now.
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02-04-2010 09:56
The solution is real simple if you have been ghouled or in limbo and you keep getting hit up to be a spamp..
Just tp to the nearest battle zone and send them a tp..soon as they get there..Shove them so far into the ground that they end up in a chinese Mcdonalds trying to figure out how to order a big mac lol :D
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02-04-2010 10:45
From: Beach Adored
Hmmm, I find that interesting. I had a friend in SL who was a blood doll in a clan. Her liege became destroyed and her soul went to the abyss. I helped her drink a potion to remove her soul from the abyss, unliege from the person she was lieged to, then gave her a garlic necklace to wear and activate. Now, mind you, she was an ACTIVE bloodlines player for several months by choice. She is no longer in the bloodlines database. Yes, if you scan her, it says she has worn the garlic necklace. But she is not in the bloodlines database anymore.

You know, I find it interesting how people in general just have to have drama and negativity in their lives. The people who have come out to complain about RP games - first of all, almost exclusively focus only on bloodlines when there are other games that are even more extreme in their actions, like hunger - and are offered all kinds of possible solutions to their issues. The ones who really are just looking for a solution are quick to say thanks and take the advice. But the ones who just have to bitch about something, who are negative people in general, just keep on searching for the negative.

Danl22, you have a couple of options here -- don't wear the necklace and when people scan you to see if you are available or uninterested they will hit you up and you'll repeatedly have to tell them you aren't interested, or wear the necklace and let them leave you completely alone.

See, this is how I see it. You meet someone interesting. You scan their profile. They have some interesting groups but something specific that interests you isn't there one way or another. They haven't said anything positive but they also have said anything negative. So, do you ask if it's an interest or do you never bring it up? For me, if I like the person and I spend a lot of my time doing the activity, then I'm going to ask if it's something that interests them - it could be the vamp thing, or it could be BDSM, or it could be baking or camping or shopping. Whatever it is that I spend most of my SL time doing. If, however, they have something I can see that says, I am NOT interested in XYZ, then I won't ever bring it up to them.

So what is it you people really want? A solution or to bitch? Cause frankly, you're just full of drama now.



not being VISIBLE on the web page is NOT the same thing as NOT being in the database at all. and the difference between Hunger and Bloodlines both, and almost every other RP on the grid, is that at least in my experience no other RP encourages attempts to recruit people by means of using actual features or facets of the RP itself as a method, and for that matter none have tried to recruit anyone i know at all.

the people that are annoyed about this issue are not satisfied with being forced to just those two options you mention, wear the necklace or get bothered, they want to NOT wear the necklace AND don't get bothered, and i agree that they should be able to have that, and until that is how it is they are not going to shut up and i am not going to stop agreeing. people should not have to be on a damn SL equivalent of a 'dont call' list because roleplayers should not be SL telemarketers. and i say this as a Bloodlines player myself, one who has completely quit 'hunting' because of respect for the issues involved, and who, even though allowing my blood to drop to zero was an accident of real life keeping me offline, i left it that way for a while because i dont want to line the pockets of the game designers any more until they make things work that way.

i enjoy Bloodlines and i want to continue in it but i do not want to participate in even registering on the mental radar of anyone who did not of their own accord scan MY damn profile and seek me and information about it out for themselves. and yes i know at least some of the technical/gameplay reasons for things being the way they are but that is Mars and Lyle's and whoever else codes problem to solve. i know that if someone could get their name entirely removed, as in, scan as a fresh victim again, the way the system is coded right now that would let someone say take me out today and in a few days get bitten again, rinse and repeat, for 'free' unlimited abuse of the blood involved. easy way to solve that is that they have no blood to give until they opt in to participate, and accepting a bite not being how the opt in is done. maybe there are better ways or maybe there are problems with that, idk but again that is the designers' problem to solve.
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Danl22 Lisle
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02-04-2010 10:55
From: Beach Adored


Danl22, you have a couple of options here -- don't wear the necklace and when people
So what is it you people really want? A solution or to bitch? Cause frankly, you're just full of drama now.


You don't get it. If you wear the necklace you are in the database as having worn the necklace. Not being able to find your name on their website doesn't mean that you are not in their database. Once you are in the database now matter how you get there, they will not remove you. People are being ambushed with bite requests when they aren't expecting it and a lot of them buy the potions and such but they are forever in the database because BL has only a pyramid profit scheme and no accountability. They run the organization but will not take responsibility for the improper actions of their members. Their greed and their refusal to take responsibility and treat people fairly is why I'm angry at them. If they were fair an improper bite would be removed and the biter would be punished. How would you like to walk into a room and find out that your AV had a title attached reading "whore"? Readable to maybe 25% of the population. And if you complained, they changed it to read "Ex Whore" but took your name off the "Whore" website? Would that satisfy you? It doesn't satisfy me
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02-04-2010 11:02
From: Danl22 Lisle
Readable to maybe 25% of the population. And if you complained, they changed it to read "Ex Whore" but took your name off the "Whore" website? Would that satisfy you? It doesn't satisfy me
I was once bitten by a bloodlines vampire and later used this garlic necklace thingy. While I accept my name is still on the database somewhere, my understanding is that it's now blocked from view, both on the bloodlines website and from bloodlines huds (I am told by friends who play bloodlines I just don't show up on their huds now, either as someone who was once bitten or as a potential target).

Where and to whom do you say my name is visible on the bloodlines website or database?
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02-04-2010 11:11
I give to you BLADE CEKA!! half spamp half human spampire huntress :D
Feel my drama lol


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02-04-2010 11:21
From: Beach Adored
Hmmm, I find that interesting. I had a friend in SL who was a blood doll in a clan. Her liege became destroyed and her soul went to the abyss. I helped her drink a potion to remove her soul from the abyss, unliege from the person she was lieged to, then gave her a garlic necklace to wear and activate. Now, mind you, she was an ACTIVE bloodlines player for several months by choice. She is no longer in the bloodlines database. Yes, if you scan her, it says she has worn the garlic necklace. But she is not in the bloodlines database anymore.

You know, I find it interesting how people in general just have to have drama and negativity in their lives. The people who have come out to complain about RP games - first of all, almost exclusively focus only on bloodlines when there are other games that are even more extreme in their actions, like hunger - and are offered all kinds of possible solutions to their issues. The ones who really are just looking for a solution are quick to say thanks and take the advice. But the ones who just have to bitch about something, who are negative people in general, just keep on searching for the negative.

Danl22, you have a couple of options here -- don't wear the necklace and when people scan you to see if you are available or uninterested they will hit you up and you'll repeatedly have to tell them you aren't interested, or wear the necklace and let them leave you completely alone.

See, this is how I see it. You meet someone interesting. You scan their profile. They have some interesting groups but something specific that interests you isn't there one way or another. They haven't said anything positive but they also have said anything negative. So, do you ask if it's an interest or do you never bring it up? For me, if I like the person and I spend a lot of my time doing the activity, then I'm going to ask if it's something that interests them - it could be the vamp thing, or it could be BDSM, or it could be baking or camping or shopping. Whatever it is that I spend most of my SL time doing. If, however, they have something I can see that says, I am NOT interested in XYZ, then I won't ever bring it up to them.

So what is it you people really want? A solution or to bitch? Cause frankly, you're just full of drama now.



Why the potion? its a waste of lindens and just feeds the scam that is bloodlines. They cant take your soul, itsa game i dont play, and has no effect on me or anyone else, only those playing the game. They could justw alk away and ignore it all. Mute anyone who harasses.
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02-04-2010 12:23
I think it bothers some people to know they are on a database of any kind, that they didn't intend or want to be on. Even their avatars. The key here is how different people view SL. YOu have the 'it's just a game' crowd, and you have the group that takes SL more seriously and cares about the things associated with their avatars. The OP has stated elsewhere in this thread that he is in a relationship and is not happy with some stranger owning 'his soul'. He obviously views SL differently, as not 'just a game'. As far as 'just don't play, it can't affect you', well, there are various ways it can affect you, anyone wearing a vampire detection HUD can see if you are associated with a vampire group, what group, how many 'kills, souls, whatever' you have to your glory, etc. Unfortunately, I see too many new residents, showing as vampires, with zero souls under their belts. When I see someone with a lot of vampire activity under their belt, I leave, simple as that, don't even want the drama. I just wonder how many of those new people even realize they've accepted a bite request at some point, and now show as vampires, for anyone wearing a HUD. I personally opted in to the garlic necklace, although had never been bitten, because I didn't want to be spammed with requests anymore. So yeah I know my name is somewhere in a opt out database, but ok. It was still better than the bite request spam. (The garlic necklace is ugly as sin, big nasty bulb of garlic, luckily all I had to do was put it on, activate it and remove it) Glad I didn't have to wear that ugly thing forever.
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