Women are so...

Sensual, sensitive, erotic, sexy, lovable, huggable, tender, loving........


some guys just don't always see it

Because they have their eyes closed.

Pep (60% of men think of *someone* else while making love to their partner; 90% of women think of *something* else)

LOL - probably very true.

The way I see it, it's not that women act this way, and men act another way.


It's that a large group of people act a certain way, and that they just happen to be women. And the same for men.



Thinking of it this way pretty much makes the post politically correct and kills virtually any conversation

Boyfriend wants a plasma screen TV. Boyfriend is getting a washing machine (because he needs one and anyone who has to share the same smell-space with his clothes will agree). Boyfriend will pout and say that I never get him anything fun, but he has two televisions and zero washing machines.

Boyfriend will get me jewelery. Never mind that I have a bunch of it. Always nice to get new jewelery, sure, but what I really want is a new set of (nice thread count) bed sheets. I will happily wear the jewelery and save up for the sheets, myself.

Moral of the story: I think practically when it comes to gifts. He does not.

Perhaps, OP, this is what is happening? You are a "fun" thinker and the woman you are complaining about is a "practical" thinker? Though I don't think that this phenomenon is tied to gender roles.

Thank you Jasmin; you have (unwittingly?) almost exactly replicated the paradigm I presented much earlier on in this thread! Even down to him telling you what he wants and (I must assume by default) you not actually expaining your true desire - and even using the word "nice".

Pep (grinning from ear to ear at his demonstration of such insight)

PS Jasmin is *not* an alt

Why am I thinking you've got a very pretty girlfriend? Or at least one who thinks she is pretty?

Just to counterbalance the mysogeny (thanks for the storm back to the 1970s there by the way) many women buy men what they want. Quite often that is difficult since so many (not ALL, you notice, I am not painting all penguins the same colour) buy what they want for themselves as soon as they want it.

Also, we are very wise to guys who buy things for us that THEY want regardless of whether we would even remotely like it or not. The wiser of us do indeed appreciate the thought so long as the thought wasn't blatently insulting.

PS Jasmin I have a washing machine, wanna buy me a plasma TV? Pep generally likes a slap, I am nearer to him than you are, I don't mind giving him a slap from you

Thanks Cherry, but I'd prefer a plasma TV.

Pep (I'll wish you a Merry Christmas in *this* thread to save opening up another one)

PS I once bought a set of golf clubs as a wedding present for a male friend of mine - and a golf bag for his new wife so she could carry them for him.

Yep a woman who can change oil is a much rarer find than a guy who can clean house. Got a sister in Oz?
Years back my sister brought an early classic 63 Holden and we got it resprayed,I went with her to all the mechanics etc and explained what was needed, but she was reasonably tech savvy for a girl, might not have been able to do technical work but she could tell a carburettor from an alternator.
So we picked up the car from the sprayoainters with a new $3000 deep metallic blue paint job And she drove out the driveway, the spraypainter said, "Geeze you're game letting the missus drive it on the first day out of the paint booth" He pretty much fell through the floow when I explained the car was hers and she was my sister, so then he asks if she could "call him"

Wouldn't have worked anyway. She was driving Detroit iron and I was driving a Alfa coupe. And who wudda thunk back then that Alfa Romeo might survive in any form longer than Chrysler.

FWIW, I bought an Alfa because back then they were losing about a thousand dollars on every car. I figured it had to be a bargain for the buyer, then.

FWIW, this is what I hear from the men in my life when I ask this question of them: "So what do you want for Christmas this year?"

....

"Oh, I don't know.... you know, whatever."

If I get that answer, I'll get them what I think they might like (a clay pigeon thrower, a box of clay pigeons and a box of shells), or might need but never get around to buying themselves because it's a hassle (like socks, jeans, underwear, whatever, to replace the 7 pairs with holes in them, LOL!) Unless a guy (or anyone really) says to me, "THIS IS WHAT I WANT," then I'm just going to choose the gift myself, and to heck with 'em if they're not gracious enough to appreciate it.

For myself, if I really want something like nice sheets or a deluxe pedi/mani set, I'll say so. In really clear language. In the store. A few weeks in advance. Like "Hey, see this set of sheets? This is what I want for Christmas. This exact set. In this exact color." Otherwise, I'll just say, "Surprise me!" and then I get what I get. 100% of the time when I've said "surprise me," I really do love the gift.

Wow, did one of the grapes bust on his fruit of the looms

A washing machine? Seriously?

I think I'd rather get socks.

A gift should say something...you know, send a message. A washing machine? That's like saying "Dude...you smell..clean yourself up." You might as well just wrap up a bar of soap to give him. *shudder*

Practical is fine. But I think there's a limit.

Oooh...here's a fun thought experiment...
Pep...gives...Jig...a washing machine as a gift....what happens?

An interesting question, but you would have to get Jig to comment, as although I have spectacularly accurate insight into the thought processes of most females, I am delighted to say I have no idea *what* is going on inside that particular person's head.

Pep (she'd probably assume it was an insult of some sort, I suppose, and I would pretend that it had a deep and meaningless purpose)

Come on now! She'd probably pitch it at your head!

LOL

But Jerboa, couched as the question was, I'd take it as an insult.

I'll slap you with a plasma TV then. Two presents for the price of one!

I think BRAd needs to be uplifted this holiday season.