sl community full of deviants?
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Tegg Bode
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06-17-2008 01:01
From: Salem Stygian I've been on SL for 4 years (2nd account) off and on. I've always come across people who lie. Wether it be about their age, their looks, their life, their occupation, even down to their genders. I feel really lucky because I met my fiance from SL, and in this sea or cess pool rather, of dishonesty, filth, and cheap virtual hookers I met him. We discussed how we've both been lied to on SL, by people who supposedly cared about us, etc. Neither of us came to SL looking for relationships, but it happened that way. Both of us got lied to. It was neat to develop a friendship then meet and then develop a real relationship. So that is the ONE thing I'm thankful for in SL, is meeting my fiance. But he's quit SL ages ago due to the reasons above, the liars, the freaks, the deviants. I'm borderline ready to quit. I mean why do you think the community lies so much? Men are women, women are men, kids are adults, adults are kids, the whole community is full of dishonesty, cheaters, liars. I was surprised to see a poll on here a while back where most people said it was okay to have a RL and SL relationship, as long as the RL lover doesn't know. How sad is that? Well the point of this is, do you think SL has gone downhill the more popular it gets, and I don't mean downhill because of lag, or scams, or anything, but the values of the community? When I first joined there was maybe 30 or so sims, I recall 2 of them having sexual things you could buy, nowadays it's almost every sim. There's predators and maniacs, pedos, beastiality, it's just like SL attracts many bad people from society. From compulsive liars to deviants. Do you agree with any of this? Have you ever been lied to or found out someone you were friends with or even more, was really a creepy ass in real life?  Maybe you shouldn't ask too many questions if you don't get the answers you want  You missed all those humans lying by appearing as Furries and Robots perhaps, Elves that aren't really elves................... You remind me a lot of a guy at one of the infohubs who asked every female avatar in local chat or IM whether they were really female, without even them having anything to do with him at all, just randomly asking any female in view.
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foehn Breed
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06-17-2008 01:12
From: Becka Andrew What comes to my mind after reading this is "welcome to the internet"... It is not like SL is the only place this happens... Thank you, I was going to post that after reading this thread.
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06-17-2008 01:33
Second Life has never imposed any expectation that people have to be what they are in RL - there is no expectation that they must be of the same age, gender, race or even species. I'm celebate in SL but since when has sex been a deviant activity? There is a difference between living a fantasy life and lying or cheating to gain personal advantage, though. Saying you'll pay someone LS2000 to build a house for you and then not paying them after they've finished is wrong. But if you are a female rabbit when you build the house but in RL you are a 20-stone male ex-wrestler, that's not wrong. I've seen for myself that there are some perverts, deviants and griefers in SL and they go beyond the bounds of what's acceptable. Most of us would be happy to see measures taken against these things. Apart from the usual no-nos, my own pet hate is people with obsessions about death and the macarbre in SL. I don't mean ordinary goth fashion so much as Things like mutilated prim corpses in pools of blood that some people like to put in their gardens. That's just sick! The clue is in the name: 'Second Life' - not 'Expanded Life' or 'Virtual Me'... Personally I don't give any details about my RL except which country I came from (Britain). Just once did I did tell one person about my RL in-game and that led to question after question and lots of IMs - a benign form of stalking. Asking my dress size is hardly a muting offence but one has to stop somewhere or you'll be giving away your address, phone number, credit card details etc.
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Butch Adzebills
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06-17-2008 02:58
What's the definition of a deviant? I've met some very odd people doing, and saying, very odd things, but that makes SL what it is. That's what makes RL what it is. If I don't like what someone says or does, I ignore them. If something offends me, I go elsewhere.
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FD Spark
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06-17-2008 03:01
To Op if you're having hard time I am truly sorry. I hope you find things that make you happy. Personally I seen good and bad, but mostly I seen lot of really nice, generous and brilliant people here and few who do enjoy stretching the truth but they seem to be having good time at it so really none of my business. And I usually see most reality pretty unrezzed....
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Tegg Bode
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06-17-2008 03:19
ROFL, best Ahern picture yet !
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06-17-2008 03:19
From: Macphisto Angelus Is there room in there for one more?  There's always room for one more Rocky!
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Tegg Bode
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06-17-2008 03:21
From: Salem Stygian Aww my threads get so big once I leave but I'm surprised this hasn't been closed yet.
K so I haven't been on SL in like 2 months first of all.
I pretty much quit anyways.
Please make sure you drop into an infohub and give all your stuff to the nearest noob so it doesn't keep clogging the asset server unused till 3008 
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06-17-2008 03:21
From: Brenda Connolly Harris is right. None of us ever go in world. Most of us don't even have SL intsalled on our machines any more. SL? Isn't this the City Of Heroes Forums?
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Kelli May
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06-17-2008 03:26
So are actors liars? And by the OPs terms, deviants? How about authors of fiction? Playwrights? Poets? Let's throw in abstract sculptors, and games designers too. And anyone playing those games. Everyone playing an av that's not a fair representation of their RL self... furries, tinies, robots, vamps and neko. The transgendered here and in RL. Kick them all out of SL, and it'll be great. No liars, no lag, no drama. But by the sacred jockstrap of Robert E. Howard, it'll be dull. Under this description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviant_behavior I'm a deviant and I've just tried to excuse it by rhetoric and Neutralisation Theory. You know what? I'm happy to admit it.
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06-17-2008 03:43
From: Salem Stygian I've been on SL for 4 years (2nd account) off and on. I've always come across people who lie. Wether it be about their age, their looks, their life, their occupation, even down to their genders. I feel really lucky because I met my fiance from SL, and in this sea or cess pool rather, of dishonesty, filth, and cheap virtual hookers I met him. We discussed how we've both been lied to on SL, by people who supposedly cared about us, etc. Neither of us came to SL looking for relationships, but it happened that way. Both of us got lied to. It was neat to develop a friendship then meet and then develop a real relationship. So that is the ONE thing I'm thankful for in SL, is meeting my fiance. But he's quit SL ages ago due to the reasons above, the liars, the freaks, the deviants. I'm borderline ready to quit. I mean why do you think the community lies so much? Men are women, women are men, kids are adults, adults are kids, the whole community is full of dishonesty, cheaters, liars. I was surprised to see a poll on here a while back where most people said it was okay to have a RL and SL relationship, as long as the RL lover doesn't know. How sad is that? Well the point of this is, do you think SL has gone downhill the more popular it gets, and I don't mean downhill because of lag, or scams, or anything, but the values of the community? When I first joined there was maybe 30 or so sims, I recall 2 of them having sexual things you could buy, nowadays it's almost every sim. There's predators and maniacs, pedos, beastiality, it's just like SL attracts many bad people from society. From compulsive liars to deviants. Do you agree with any of this? Have you ever been lied to or found out someone you were friends with or even more, was really a creepy ass in real life?  You've stayed on SL for 4 years despite always coming across people who lie. Eventually, while wallowing in "in this sea or cess pool rather, of dishonesty, filth, and cheap virtual hookers" you met someone who became your RL finance. Personally I'd be a bit wary of someone I met in a "sea or cess pool rather, of dishonesty, filth, and cheap virtual hookers", buy hey, since you were already swimming in it maybe that thought didn't occur to you. He quit SL ages ago due to the reasons above, the liars, the freaks, the deviants. -- and you stayed on -- for ages by your own admission. He quit in disgust But you stayed in a place that he despised. You stayed - for ages. So he's dumped you then? - for being a filthy deviant. "I'm sorry that this has happened to you"
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06-17-2008 03:43
IBTW.
W = Whatever.
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Haravikk Mistral
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06-17-2008 03:44
Since when was anybody honest on the internet? SL is fraught with the same inherent social problems as the internet as a whole, but it's usually more fun.
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Sian Kyomoon
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06-17-2008 04:06
Its a virtual world, now i`m not being funny but most people don`t actually want to wander round in a virtual world being an exact carbon copy of the person they are in the Real World. Whats the point in that?
If i want to go to a club or swimming or have mad kinky sex as the real world me, you know what I do...I actually go and wander around in the real world and do just that, and you know what else....its actually much more realistic and much more fun than it is in SL.
If however I want to go to places and do things I would never normally do in the Real World, I can create an Avatar and explore those things in a Virtual world...now 90% of people doing this are probably not very likely to create an Avatar that mirrors there real self....some will be close copies and others will chose to create something that is the complete opposite of what they are..is that lying, well yes it is, but you have to be a very naive person if you thought everyone you met was the same as the Avatar they have created, the entire naming of SL even suggests it...Second Life...i.e its not a replacement for your normal Real World life its a chance to create another life that does not mirror your real world life.
Now yes there is an awful lot of sex in SL, just as theres an awful lot of sex on the internet, why does a virtual world attract large numbers of people to do this...well its quite simple...people can choose to reveal as much as they want about there real selves and so feel more inclined to explore fantasies that they have that they would never share face to face in the real world. Its also done in a place where the people involved could be on other sides of the world, so risks in performing these acts are much less than they would be in the real world ,your are not going to catch a disease...get pregnant...end up being killed by an axe murderer, the worst that can happen is you have to log out to get away from any situation your avatar gets into...so based on this people will take fantasies to extremes and thats why you see so much of what you class as deviant behaviour.
SL as well as bringing out the worst in people also brings out the best of people...how many shopping malls in R/L can you wander into and strike up a conversation with a complete stranger I wonder.?...in real life it rarely happens...in SL you can wander up to people you have never met before and maybe find a friend....where you decide to take the friendship/relationship after that is up to the people involved.
SL does not attract all the deviants of the world...what it does is it allows people to explore there dreams, fantasies, desires, which they are unwilling or unable to perform in the Real World.
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Sexy Partridge
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06-17-2008 04:32
From: Crighton Johin Funny how perspective differs. In my experience, SL brings out the best in people more than the worst. The people in here, on the whole, are smarter, more fun and more compassionate than the people I meet in RL these days. And men never lie in RL either. Of course, women never do either. Why, I have never ever ever heard of a woman lying about her age in RL....never happen. Pssst....I hear men lie about the size of their....you know.....in SL, too. That never happens in RL either. When I think I'm the only one or the few who are right(eous) then, usually, I'm in big trouble. I"m human. So are you. And so is the guy doing weird stuff over there. I'm much better working on myself to be a decent human being rather than judging you. Psssst....those aren't really animals. They're actually people role playing animals. *nods* Same with kids........and by the way, where are these people screwing animals and kids? I just don't see that in my travels. Here's what I see. I see people raising a ton of money for Relay For Life, Blues For Autism and Bid41Cure (diabetes.) I see people creating amazing stuff. I see people helping newbies by giving them free stuff and sometimes un-free stuff. I see artists and musicians getting a place to share their talent and people who enjoy and encourage them. And I see boobies....but then I am a guy.  What I see, sometimes says more about me than what I'm looking at. *goes to look for man/animal sex* I so agree Crighton, Sl has so many wonderful things which does get overlooked it seems. I have met some very wonderful ppl that I call friends. Maybe someday even meet in RL. Yes have I been lied to about stuff, "YES" but for the most part I didn't care. It wasn't important. I sure as heck don't look like my AV. My av is over 7 feet tall with long Pink Hair. So am I a liar? I have friends that are guys playing females, did they tell me from the get go no but after we became "friends" then they did tell me, did they have to? no Only sort of lying I don't like is if someone manufactures a story to get my sympathy and then I find out it's a lie. But I have learned that unless it's one of my close friends in SL I try to stay more objective about it. I have had friends donate to the epilepsy foundation IN my son's name. Now again how horrible is SL? I find the ppl here for the most part incredible. I think you get out of it what you put into it.  Sexy Partridge
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Dakota Tebaldi
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06-17-2008 04:34
I'm a total deviant. A couple days ago in the sandbox at NCI, I rezzed a sewer. Really - a whole sewer. Talk about gutter trash - it was everywhere! Literally!
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Nuuna Nitely
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06-17-2008 04:45
From: Victoria Forster Honestly, it's the self-proclaimed 'normal' types that scare the proverbial crap out of me. I just wanted to say that.  Freaks and deviants rule! They make sl interesting. 
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06-17-2008 04:53
From: Dakota Tebaldi I'm a total deviant. A couple days ago in the sandbox at NCI, I rezzed a sewer. Really - a whole sewer. Talk about gutter trash - it was everywhere! Literally! I found pornos in your sewer. (=_=)
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Solomon Devoix
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06-17-2008 05:08
From: Bruise Shepherd hey... some of my best friends are cheap virtual hookers  Some of MY best friends are EXPENSIVE virtual hookers! 
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06-17-2008 05:21
From: Senga Tsarchon
In Real Life I have encountered: con artists, philanderers, thieves, rapists, muggers, gang-bangers, drug addicts, drunks, pimps, streetwalkers, disabled pre-op transsexual hookers, short-change artists, sociopaths, bullies, child abusers, pedophiles, dog-f*ckers, insane cult leaders, wannabee insane cult leaders, slumlords, plagiarists, mafiosi, nazis (Godwin!), gossips, and people with poor personal hygiene.
No wonder you are in SL. It's safer.
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Jig Chippewa
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06-17-2008 05:27
What is a deviant?
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Morgaine Alter
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06-17-2008 05:32
Well this deviant is starting her day with a fresh pair of pants!
just no undies :0
this concludes the P.S.A.
as you were
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Marcel Flatley
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06-17-2008 05:33
Now I understand finally. Thank you.
All the time I was wondering why my Second Life was so "clean". Hardly know how that prim appendage works (but I can pee with it, as far as I remember). Thought there was something wrong with me.
But its Second Life! Being a deviant pervert in RL, makes me a decent guy in SL. Just wish it was the other way around, as SL is full of pretty girls. And if they are not pretty enough, you can ask them to adapt their shape too! Asking my RL gf to change some rulers and attach her newest prim pussy was less of a success though.
Damn SL!
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sacha Magne
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06-17-2008 05:33
don't, i can't resist...
I'm a CHILD AVATAR !!!! and this is my 69 posts !!!!!
Did I won the deviant's prize ?
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